https://wearethene.ws/notable/210615
Note on page 3 sections 1 and 2:
- individuals are encouraged to wear mask when unable to maintain 6 feet social distance. -No person may be required by any jurisdiction "enforcement office" to wear or to mandate the wearing of a face covering. -no jurisdiction may impose confinement in jail as a penalty for violation of any COVID 19 order. -no jurisdiction may impose a penalty of any kind for failure to wear a face covering.... -except that a legally authorized official may act to enforce trespassing laws and remove violator at the request of a business establishment or property owner.
IN English......do not wear a mask in Texas. If you are approached by a establishment representative respectfully decline their encouragement to wear a mask. If they persist, state you can not wear a mask due to your medical condition of Metabolic Acidosis which will be further compromised if you do not breathe 21% O2 ambient air. Masks prevent this. You many suffer irreversible ischemic organ damage which could lead to organ failure. If they insist further ask the question, "Are you going to refuse me service and refuse to take my money and charge me with trespassing?"
If the response is YES then leave the premises. Do not return EVER.
If the response is No then say thank you and go about your business.
We MUST stop wearing masks or this will never end. It stays as long as we comply. Stop participating in this emotional delusion.
So far no issues at HEB, Tractor Supply, or Home Depot. Come on TEXAS. You can do this.
HEB announcement March 5 2021 https://newsroom.heb.com/h-e-b-takes-additional-steps-to-safeguard-partners-by-providing-masks-and-gloves/
Note the "The ending of mask ordinances puts real pressure on retailers to enforce an emotional topic for many. We ask for kindness and understanding from our customers in our expectation of them to wear masks in our stores. Also, we understand some customers cannot wear a mask due to medical exceptions. We request all customers adhere to the Covid-19 protocols we have in place while shopping." They will not enforce per management. Just strongly encourage. Kindly refuse.
I especially LOVE the "enforce an emotional topic" not health crisis or deadly viral outbreak. No "emotional topic" Geeeez. These people and their feelings.
If a store asks you to wear a mask, and you refuse, they can ask you to leave. It's a private business. They have the right to refuse service. If you do not leave at that time, they can call the police, who can, and probably will, charge you with trespassing. If you comply with the police, they may just let you off with a warning. If you don't, you may get tased.
Just make life easier and refuse to shop anywhere that has a "masks required" sign. Better yet, make your own sign and let companies know that if they require masks, you'll take your business elsewhere.
Okay. What happens when every business requires a mask? Are businesses a loophole in the constitution?
Seeing as 6 companies control the media, I imagine there will come a day when all businesses are controlled by a few groups. Then it will be easy to require a mask everywhere, with nowhere to run. The lockdowns destroyed a lot of competition to those tyrannical businesses.
That is correct. Private businesses are not beholden to the constitution, except for very few circumstances. It's similar to owning a home. You don't need a constitutional lawyer to kick someone out who you invited into your home.
The point that I was trying to make is that the woman in question was not arrested for not wearing a mask. That is sensationalism which rivals CNN. She was arrested for trespassing.
Absolutely not true. Businesses can only ask you 2 put aside your rights in exchange for goods or services or using their property. That does not void the Constitution. They cannot have you come on their property and then shoot you, will perform other crimes against you. You can voluntarily suspend certain rights in order to Avail yourself of their service or Goods. That does not create a constitutional suspension
I never said anything about voiding or suspending the constitution. I'm not sure where you got that from.
For your first point, it’s scary that some of the most influential empires are not beholden to the constitution. Is America a corporation or a country?
To answer your question : America is a corporation.
There's the rub.
Yep, I thought the same thing. When they started requiring masks at Walmart & then all the other grocery stores fell like dominoes. I thought, "now where am I going to get my groceries?" Thankfully, Walmart & Publix eased up on it. I haven't tried Winn Dixie recently. I avoid Target now, because they still have a sign that says masks are required to enter the store. Ugh.
My local winn dixie sees my face regularly, no problem.
At target, try defying the sign. Just walk in. Walmart lets you, if you say you have a medical excuse.
So: Doctors said not to wear the mask. You have a condition.
EDIT: Use the ultra persuasion word BECAUSE. "Doctors said not to wear it BECAUSE I have a condition."
The word because is so powerful tool for hacking people's brains and getting them to shut down questioning, they will tend to let you have your way regardless of what comes after it (within bounds of "reason" :)
It's worked in 98% of stores where I used it.
If they resist at Target, say 'Men can use the ladies room here by identifying as women. So I identify as exempt from the mask. My body, my choice." Then stride past like youre in a hurry and can't wait to get out of there.
I went to Target and thought they wouldn't let me shop, but no one stopped me. I wish more people would stop. I will not spend my hard earned money where they dictate a mask.??
The Constitution ONLY protects the citizens form a tyrannical government. It says absolutely nothing about private or corporate entities being disallowed from various forms of tyranny. The U.S. Code doesn't even address this. The only body that has is SCOTUS. And they've ruled time and again that the U.S. Constitution DOES NOT extend it's citizen protections to either private nor publicly owned businesses or corporations. If the Founding Fathers had intended that document to do that, they would've written it into the Constitution. So, your argument is moot re: business governance of the people's rights.
[They] know this, which is why the U.S. Code was set up, as a way to help absolve corporate interests from any liability re: rights infringements.
I suppose I made that my focus because I’m curious what lies ahead for us. There is no equality in which the constitution is an irrelevant piece of paper just because people work for me.
It seems highly likely “rules for thee, but not for me” was spoken with these business empires in mind. Private businesses are still public influencers. They have too much power!
Are we run by “We the People” or “We the Big Businesses”?
And if businesses count as a collection of people, the constitution, if it were perfect, should apply. Completely. Not just the beneficial parts.
I’d like to hear some drawbacks to that - potential repercussions. Chain reactions? I’m just a person. I don’t know everything. Someone let me hear them.
Bingo. They have her money. She engaged in a CONTRACT that did NOT include her wearing a fucking mask to fulfill her end of the CONTRACT. Why are people so dense here? Not to mention banks are basically all taxpayer funded via bailouts and insurance so yea I’m on the side that it’s not so cut and dry “private business” bullshit!
Can you bear to wear a mask for the time it takes to close your account?
Not the point!
If they are open to the public, they are NOT private. Fuck this 'private' business bullshit. Especially if they are publicly traded companies.
Wrong, I'm open to the public, it is how we make money isn't it.
And I am a private biz, just the Wife and I. In my place of business you will play by my rules, or I will and routinely do refuse to serve you.
Or, I 'might' use a sliding scale depending on the irritation level you represent, aggravation factor we call it, a multiplier.
WTLiteral makes you think you may enter another person's property and demand rights? Act politely and responsibly, speak proper English or at least Redneck and we're good.
Be a problem and see how you like us then.
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Put up a "whites only" sign and find out what the government thinks about your right to refuse service.
Obviously some exceptions. But there are a thousand reasons I can keep your ass off my property if I want to. Get over your stupid indignation. Private property rights are a thing all should want.
You saw what the Enemy thinks of the right to refuse service when that cop threw the 65 year old Lady down to the ground.
WHY in the fook would anyone put up a whites only sign, are you retarded?
Asking for a Fren...
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Do you take taxpayer bailouts and are insured by the government? No? Banks do. Private MY ASS.
Because if I have some other physical condition, like being unable to walk, you have to not discriminate against me, or you're breaking the law. But if my health issue precludes wearing a mask, suddenly that accommodation goes out the window? I'm automatically presumed guilty of being the spreader of a disease...that I DONT HAVE?
You can be sued for discrimination and you would lose. That is a fact.
No, anon/karen, I would not lose, folks have come at me before. Sure you can sue me, in this country you can sue anyone, sure. But I would not lose, I don't violate law, I use it to my advantage.
How am I discriminating, you are 'free' to choose to shop elsewheres, someplace that tolerates you in order to make a dollar. I won't do that, I'll show you the door just that quick, and be legal doing it.
If you give me attitude I'll then be threatened, I tend to Honor threats, might have you at gunpoint when the cops show, if they show. My House, my rulez, don't come in, refuse to be Polite and then threaten me, likelihood of being held at gunpoint increases.
If you dare, plz state why you think your ridiculous notion is 'fact'. I'll pray you learn patience or grab that epiphany.
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Being a public business means it is owned by the public aka govt owned. That is different from a private business being open to the public....the public can come in but only under that private establishments rules...not the govts rules. So right now in Texas no one call tell you have to wear a mask in a government (public) building but business can still choose to or not
No. Ever hear of owning stocks of a PUBLICLY traded company? Public does not mean government owned, that is in communist (socialist) countries.
Again different definition of public...there can be a publicly traded company who does business on private property that they control the rules of who can come and go
EXACTLY!
Hey, tjey can trespass you at any point you Refuse To leave private property. They can even exclude you from returning ever. We donit all the time to people who don't want to adhere to our policies. Mask ain't one of them but it could be.
That sounds like tyranny to me.
They also have to give public accommodation. If they're open to the public, they MUST accommodate. I think most states have this as a law.
That is true, but the CDC does not recognize masks as a health risk (which they are). On a side note, I love the irony of banning smoking indoors because of breathing issues. Just saying.
Yes is a trespassing charge not some bull mask law. No shirts, no shoes, no mask....
If they mandate mask I shop elsewhere