I feel like this was part of the plan, given the name of the boat and the call sign. It feels like Evergreen was suppose to get stuck and hold up all transportation flow for the next two weeks while operations are being carried out. I just can’t imagine they couldn’t get that boat unstuck in one day if they really wanted too.
Thoughts?
How much more blatant can “Watch the Water” be ?
The penis drawings by a ship that large because of a sand storm, losing power or wind gust?
Or they wanted to draw a dickbutt than clog shipping for some reason. Seems way too lulzy for terrorism, no blood just humor so far.
The Captain or his 'assistant' do nice work. Impressive genital's and rounded ass. Something a art collector like epstein would put next to the dental chair.
Or it’s some mossad bullshit plucking the heartstrings of 4chan memers that (used to?) like drawing dickbutt on everything.
That would make me sad :(
I agree. Things move fast when people want them to move fast. When the world's trade depends on that canal, you'd think they would have yanked that bitch out asap.
Considering the amount of traffic going through there, I would think blockages and emergency situations would be a regular occurence.
I second. I remember several years back when there was a major accident pre-dawn on one of the freeway arteries that go into SF via the Bay Bridge. Major reconstruction required. Job was projected to be months and the traffic situation, which was already bad, was going to be even worse. This was before telecommuting was common. The contractor got the job done in less than a month. I am sure there were incentives built into that, but they got the job done and done right. (Contrast that to the bridge itself which was 20+ years after the 1989 earthquake, something like 4x the cost and shoddy.)
A gasoline tanker caught on fire in the "MacArthur Maze" interchange and melted the freeway overpass above and it came crashing down, so they had to rebuild the overpass above and repair the one it fell onto.
those guys banged that construction out, working 24 hours a day. They bid the job for about $800K and got a 7 million dollar performance bonus for getting it done in 26 days.
Nuh uhu.gasoleine on fire cant melt bridges/s
I'm thinking that the vessel has been prevented from delivering it's cargo by Patriots, George Webb has been warning of chinese missiles and weapons systems being imported into the USA via CCP "owned" US ports. By crippling this ship, a serious FF may have been prevented.
Could be. It .ay not even be the real target. Just the one they used to shut down traffic while they go after the actual ship(s) they are the targets in the Indian Ocean where they remain stacked up waiting. This is going to hit the economy hard.
yes. It's a move on the board, not an accident.
Send the US Navy 'plumbers' in with boarding teams and see what's up
When its floating, a big ship can and is pushed around pretty easily by tugs. Once stuck, it's a dead weight. Not that surprising that a big gust could move it or that with so little spare space it could go aground. It is about 190 ft wide, by 1300 ft long, by about 100 ft high loaded, a lot of area to be pushed by the wind, with all the weight the momentum would keep carrying it sideways for a while. See Newton's laws of motion. Or go get a rowboat, row like mad on a quiet surface then stop and see how far your little boat continues to go before it stops.
They've been running ships on that canal for 100 years. Never had wind blow a shipnside ways. The names of the ship and tugs, all the other indicators thisnwas deliberate.
Did Newton's law of motion also draw the body parts?
Are you suggesting the pilots, whoever they are, and who are responsible for this mess, were deliberately planning to screw the canal? It's possible. Why send a signal though when the suspicion is sure to fall on them already?
Idk what they were doing, nothing would surprise me at this point
Funny how you got a down vote for posting logic. We need to look at every angle and not just the ones we like.
I think the people who are wondering whether the wind could turn a ship are forgetting that with no power, there is no control. Ships that size have systems in place to keep them straight. Those systems failed.
Obviously this isn't common and I am sure that the power loss was intentional. Whether someone pn the ship did it or someone else is irrelevant.
It's early And i haven't had coffee... Was that a joke? The Ever Given is a 20,388 TEU ship. That's 10,194 big trailers. It displaces almost 220,000 tons.
I'm not sure what equipment they're expecting people to bring to deal with this!
I like the people saying 'blow it up' that don't seem to have any concept of the scale involved. Reminds me of this:
https://mcallen.org/news/the-day-the-oregon-highway-department-blew-up-a-whale/
And that was just a tiny whale. You could put more weight in a single container of the 10k+ onboard the ever given.
These are HUGE ships and are impressive to see in person. I can't imagine the work they would have to do to get it unstuck.
True. It’s does seem like a big job.
Those boxes go into the hold.
True, but they would have equipment there or accessible nearby, to attend to problems like this, whether caused by weather or error.
Ships like this pass daily, but yes, this is a special sort of screwup. Maybe it is too big for any normal plan, but we should still be seeing something constructive going on immediately.
Frankly I'm still hoping for raids.
TWO weeks??
https://www.ft.com/content/31dbe2b9-3ff2-4bcc-a3e3-813600caeb49
They'll have to float it first which H probably means they offload weight
I've been through the suez. The "people" in that area are high on my list of most useless and miserable fucks on earth. So until some capable people turn up...
Does anyone know if this has happen before?
This article says no and has some other tidbits, like wind gusts of 30 mph and 2 days to unstuck. And this boat had another crash not long ago, blamed on wind. https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2021-03-23/massive-cargo-ship-turns-sideways-blocks-egypts-suez-canal
Sorry about MSN-- this has more about the unsticking effort and impact on commerce, which is already shaking the oil market. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/suez-canal-still-blocked-as-diggers-and-tugs-cant-budge-ship/ar-BB1eUym8?ocid=uxbndlbing
The possibilities are endless. Food shortages? Oh, lordie, not the toilet paper rush AGAIN!
yup
2 weeks! The toilet stream media were saying 2 days yesterday. Wow.
https://www.ft.com/content/31dbe2b9-3ff2-4bcc-a3e3-813600caeb49
Countless articles saying “weeks”.
It may take up to 2 weeks for the winds to start up again and blow in the favored direction.
Still not sure. Is this a white hat thing, a black hat thing, or just a coincidink?
Obviously u/#aliens
Either that or it was purposely rammed into an unrealistically difficult position from which to remove it.
This. The front of the boat is driven into the shore like it was traveling forward at a decent pace when it hit. If the wind blew it sideways wouldn't it have stopped when it first met the resistance of the shore line? The hull (terminology?) is burrowed into the beach from the pics I saw.
It apparently was going much faster than the highest speed allowed when it happened. I forget exactly, something like 13 instead of 8 knots? If you've ever cruised, you know that these ships have to have a pilot on board when they traverse the canal. You can see the Pilot embarkation point on some of the maritime maps, near where the penis was drawn. The pilot would most likely have been on board for that unusual steering pattern too.
There are no coincidences. I believe we are truly to the "watch the water" posts finally!
4 football fields end to end.
Do you think that what is being blown up will simply disappear???
It will result in a HUGE mess that will take even longer to clean up to ensure safe passage for ships that go through there.
And where would the resulting debris go?
Maybe they could blow up the sides of the canal around it to get it out of the dirt, blow the points where it is stuck? Idk, but you can’t just wave a wand and make it gone
I think they tried that once with a beached whale. It didn't make it go away.
Pythagoras famously said give me somewhere to stand and with a long enough lever I could move the world. So, yes, it should be a relatively simple matter to move this boat.
Here’s a thought....don’t allow shipping longer than the canal is wide.
Like a fellow Patriot mentioned...."Watch the water".....!!!
Something that big with 200,000 tons of weight rammed into wet sand at 13 knots is a real problem. We have not dealt with this before as the ship is the largest in the world. To pull it loose would require a huge amount of energy to overcome the suction between the hull and the wet sand. If there are tides there, and apparently there are, it would serve to bury the ship a little more each tide. It may as well be stuck in wet bubble gum.
With 10,000 containers stacked there, imagine how many you would have to remove to even make a difference. It's not like some helicopter can fly over and grab one container at a time. Shipping containers of that size are too heavy for any helicopter, I'm guessing. So there would have to be some way to assemble a massively huge crane system, and drag it there across the sand.
It would probably be less effort to just reroute the Suez Canal around this doomed ship. Start digging, because that will take several years, if not decades.
The "Ever Given," not "Evergreen." Go here and search for "Ever Given," and you can see a photo of the container ship and its position crosswise in the canal:
https://www.vesselfinder.com/
It's supposed to be in Rotterdam by 3-31, but that might not happen.
EVERGREEN is the shipping company name. See pic https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIF.%252baSKCcIxSYfzrwD73SJRjA%26pid%3DApi&f=1. Printed big as fuck so you can't miss it.
But the OP was saying "Evergreen" is the name of the ship, which is incorrect. I didn't say anything about the company name. If you had looked at the link I provided, you would see that company name on the side of the ship.
They'll have to off load the entire ship I guess. We need more than speculation. Hope they reveal what's up.
lmao, dude this thing weighs well over 200,000 tons thats wedged.
There are over 10,000 containers.
You're right, will probably need 11 dozers. Kek
A dozer on land can pull much more than a tug in the water though
This thing ain't a drilling rig.
This is not a small operation, freeing this ship could take a long time. There are no heavy lift cranes around this part of the canal to lift some containers off, this could take more than a few weeks.
Why postulate trafficking theories when the most obvious result of this ship being beached is ordinary commerce $$$? According to this article, 12 % of global trade and 9% of oil goes through the Suez DAILY. That's almost hard to believe, but it's an amount of money that would certainly motivate a lot of people, maybe even more people than would be in trafficking. Whole nations are thinking about that commerce and sweating the blockade.
https://earther.gizmodo.com/stuck-suez-canal-boat-raised-oil-prices-because-thats-1846543046
Because it doesn't happen. If a ship thT big is moving at 4 knots tjey have steerageway. They should not have problems getting blown side ways.
Can you please point out where in my post I said “Trafficking”? I have no idea what’s going on, I’m just saying I think humans are capable of getting that boat out of that jam quicker than “weeks” if they really wanted too. But, I could be wrong about that aswell.
I think so too. It's part of a bigger operation. Look at the stacked up ship's in the Indian Ocean. Where tjey from, where tjey going. How .any beat feet back to Ports in China.
That was a general reply not to you, but to all the people assigning everything that happens to some white hat operation which is aimed at child smugglers. It's gotten ridiculous and is making GAW a laughingstock. Like the tugboat named Baraka which is a common Arabic name and the ship's call letters which include Hillary's initials but have a number which she doesn't. This isn't evidence! There really are coincidences! If there is any nefarious plot it more likely relates to raising oil and food prices because plugging that canal is already doing it.
Anyway, the ship weighs 200,000 tons. Its displacement right now does not cover that weight. On the water there is little resistance to movement. With the prow stuck it's 200,000 tons sinking into wet sand. For comparison a loaded boxcar is about 30 tons. It can't be offloaded very easily to increase flotation because the shipping containers are a hundred feet in the air and designed to be moved with a giant crane. How is a giant crane going to get there and be set up? Dragged overland? First it has to be where it could be dragged, then big tractors pull it slowly through the sand, like the giant transformer we had to move from CA to AZ at 5 mph, took months. They can drain some ballast water and otherwise it will be dig dig dig on the front end while pulling on the rear and hoping for a high tide. A Dutch crew is coming, one of these days, and then there will be endless red tape no doubt. I think a week would be good work but don't expect it.
The crane would come in pieces. There may be a leibher in germany that could but just putting one together and probably the site work is gonna be a big job.
Two weeks may be optimistic. That's a lot of ship to deal with.
they should seriously just sink that thing it would be faster and cheaper.
I don't think you understand the depth of canals. It's like getting in a bathtub, especially those with locks.