Covid is fake. Everyone here knows it. The DS knows it too.
You know what else is fake? The vaccine. The DS knows it. Does everyone here know it yet?
The vax is another way to divide us. Vaxed and un-vaxed. Why is Trump pushing it? Why did Ivanka get it?
Remember warp speed. If everyone gets the fake vax to cure the fake virus, what happens to the fake pandemic? Play your role as if you're in a movie.
The DS doesn't want our side to vax because they need the lockdowns to continue. OF COURSE they're going to send Psaki in front of a camera to say us crazy Q followers need to vax. What's her alternative?
But that puts them in a pinch, you see? So what does DS do? They give us a reason to refuse the vax. Oh 7 people died. Oh it'll lead to passports. Oh muh mRNA....
Then to sell the story even more, they pull the Johnson and Johnson vax. Trump even called them out on this move. This is all designed to control us by fear.
We cannot let fear control us. The vaccine is fake, and no more deadly than Covid. We're watching a movie. They never expected a vaccine so soon.
If everyone was vaxed, it would destroy the narrative. Too many people would awaken.
I chose not to play.
If you use ther legal name (birth certificate info), you play their legal game.
I’m still not getting it.
Same here, Still not getting it.
I don't believe the vax is fake...... too many organic reports of complications and deaths.
I want it to be a fake vaccine but I know people who have gotten it. Very few people however, all had side effects. Some got flue like symptoms and two friends miscarried. I will not take this vaccine.
I have spent at least a thousand hours looking at evidence of covid (the symptoms that make up the disease called Covid-19), SARS-cov-2 (the virus blamed for covid), and the various coronavirus vaccines (past and present).
Here are my conclusions. These conclusions may change with additional evidence, but here is where I am at now with all that I have seen:
Given the massive amounts of evidence for real and serious side effects from the vaccines, I think it is highly irresponsible to suggest people take it without addressing every single piece of evidence to the contrary using not just wishful thinking, but scientific inquiry.
Thank you for this! It clearly represents a lot of effort.
Given the thoroughness of your post, I was assuming that you had an expanded version, perhaps with citations. Is that is something you could point us to?
For example, assuming the survival rate of Covid being 99.5% (It is hard to get a real number, since it is grossly over-reported, and we don't know what the rate would be if everyone was given the therapeutics you list), then we have a death rate of 1:200 (which I believe is the high end). Then assuming that vaccine deaths are underestimated by a factor of 5 (I had been assuming 10, based on a Stanford study quoted by Simone Gold, as the typically under-reporting factor for vaccines), then death by vaccine is about 1:4000. Similarly, serious side effects would occur in 1:100 cases.
Then there are the unknowns regarding "pathogenic priming" which I assume means "an over-reaction to the virus should a vaccinated person actual encounter it" and other systemic damages to the body that affect quality of life down the road.
Looking at pathogenic priming: assuming everyone is exposed to the virus (worst case), let's look at a population of 4000 people:
Note that effect of pathogenic priming is non-trivial, even given your small estimate. You have to survive the vaccine AND subsequent exposure to Covid. In fact, you could argue the vaccine makes it more likely that you would die from Covid (1:100) instead of (1:200). No wonder Fauci has recommended continued wearing of the mask even after vaccination.
[Spez: I realized after I wrote this that getting Covid under "pathogenic priming" does not necessarily means that you die. The death rate is probably higher than 1:200, but it is unknown. It should definitely be worse than catching Covid if you have not been vaccinated]
I have many posts on many of these topics with external sources. Would you like to ask a more specific question?
As for your calculations, I do think its possible the vaccines are more deadly than the virus (assuming proper diet). I think they are absolutely more likely to be harmful (without being lethal). But in either case, I don't think the data suggests that either the virus nor the vaccine are very lethal. Not being vitamin deficient also very likely helps with the vaccine.
I do not think it will be trivial, but my first fear was that it would be lethal to 5% of the vaccinated. The preliminary data suggests that may be an over estimate by an order of magnitude. That makes me happy. Of course it could still be in the millions if my estimate is correct, but not in the tens of millions as I first feared.
I know a truck driver who took the vax... and he was nearly blind for 3-days afterwards, only seeing spots and colors.
I talked to a surgeon who took the vax... and his arms and hands kept going numb that night.
That doesn't sound like a fake vax to me. It sounds destructive.
I sorry, but this is my body we are talking about, my quality of life and you are asking us to just accept something as fact because you believe it to be so. If you want to play along fine, good for you. I do not take vaccines, flu shots etc...and I am extremely healthy-not risking that even for the president, let alone for someone on a website who thinks he knows best.
Not happening, ever.
As has been clearly pointed out numerous times, by "pushing the vacc" into quick production it was declared an emergency measure thusly cannot be mandated, forced, to be taken. That was intentional. As for why anyone would encourage it to be taken if it is dangerous, including the example unfortunately set by Ivanka, there is a fine line between exercising your own free will to take it, and giving all Americans the free will to take it or not - and making it easy to get--and then blatantly pushing people and coercing them to do so. I have not ever heard Trump say to us that he recommends getting it. Just that if we want it, get it. Nor has Ivanka. My only bone to pick is that she publicized that she got it, which to me is an endorsement. As I said, a fine line. Nothing about any of it right now provides actual peace of mind.
Cant i just say i got it?
Identify as vaccinated? Go for it! Anyone who attacks you is simply being mysophobic!
I’d rather defeat them than play along.
Are you vax'ed? There was a Yuge compilation video of people having bad reactions to the vax.
If you want to party you need to ante up, put your body where your mouth is.
Most of us are doing the same, our bet is to wait this out.
Nope. Just having discussion.
This is called cognitive dissonance.
Yet again, here is another interesting and plausible explanation for the vaccine situation. Thank you.
There is something to covid. I think it wasn't as deadly as the bad guys were hoping it to be. But its real and different than a flu. My sister still hasn't gotten any taste back (neural damage?) 6 months later..... Never heard of flu doing that. Now the reaction was completely over the top but we Patriots are dealing with that now! No more masks, helping businesses stay open, etc...
Not getting the vax!!!
Are they real or just people having medical problems? I’m not saying they aren’t real.. jury is out. But two things about this. I don’t think Pres Trump would deliberately put us in harm’s way. Not even to go with the flow. I feel like he knows something most don’t know. Such as the other shoe is about to drop or he knows it’s just a placebo.
The other shoe about to drop theory - since day one it seemed like he suspected it to be a bio weapon. Chyna virus, bold statements. Does he think this is a precursor to something worse? Trial run?Something we already know about, like..idk anthrax? Most civilians haven’t had it but military has that vax and it has side effects. I’m just using that as an example. Masssss hysteria if word got out there was a bio attack on say, our meat. Or in the air or a couple other infection routes. Remember, Pres Trump knows about a myriad of plots, foiled attempts, investigations and things that would make you lose a lot of sleep. It has caused me to scratch my head a lot about the covid vax. Either he knows it’s a psyop and fake or he knows it’s protective against something to come. Possible? Just my theories.
I’m still not getting it. Lol