Win / GreatAwakening
GreatAwakening
Communities Topics Log In Sign Up
Sign In
Hot
All Posts
Settings
All
Profile
Saved
Upvoted
Hidden
Messages

Your Communities

General
AskWin
Funny
Technology
Animals
Sports
Gaming
DIY
Health
Positive
Privacy
News
Changelogs

More Communities

frenworld
OhTwitter
MillionDollarExtreme
NoNewNormal
Ladies
Conspiracies
GreatAwakening
IP2Always
GameDev
ParallelSociety
Privacy Policy
Terms of Service
Content Policy
DEFAULT COMMUNITIES • All General AskWin Funny Technology Animals Sports Gaming DIY Health Positive Privacy
GreatAwakening Where We Go Qne, We Go All!
hot new rising top

Sign In or Create an Account

273
() Misleading Title
posted 4 years ago by FreedomloverUK (context) 4 years ago by FreedomloverUK +273 / -0
41 comments share
41 comments share save hide report block hide replies
Comments (41)
sorted by:
▲ 88 ▼
– PeaceAndLovePatriot 88 points 4 years ago +88 / -0

I watched the whole thing.

No where did they say Corona was a lie.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 11 ▼
– Slyver 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

They did not say "Corona is a lie". Misquoting only ever does harm, and the title should not misquote.

However, it does point out several places where investigations are warranted because substantial evidence shows that non-truths were told.

A non-truth is not a lie. A lie is an intentional non-truth, and intent has not been proven (in this video).

This video is worth watching however to hear the statements from officials who are pointing out evidences of non-truths, and calling for investigations into the intent of those non-truths.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 8 ▼
– Aspie 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

A lie is a lie regardless of intent.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 5 ▼
– Slyver 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

If I say the Sun goes around the Earth, and I have math equations, path evidence, and experiential evidence and logic that supports that statement, does that make it true? Such a statement, when originally made by Aristotle had good evidence, and good investigation that showed the Sun going around the Earth. Later evidence and data suggest that theory was not true.

We don't call Aristotle a liar because he put forth the original non-truth. Who knows how much scientific damage that non-truth caused, keeping us from gaining a deeper understanding of physics for two millennia. Harm was obviously done by a non-truth, but we don't call Aristotle a liar because we can't prove intent to mislead.

Saying something that is not true is not a lie if you believe it. You tell a lie if you say a non-truth and you know it.

You can also tell a lie by telling "nothing but the truth", but leaving out important context.

A lie is an intent to mislead. It really has nothing to do with the veracity of the statement itself.

Intent is everything.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 6 ▼
– QdaPeeps 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Must be an attorney.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– KickingPugilist 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This is a really funny comment, but the original comment wasn't wrong. With the knowledge at the time, believing the sun went around the earth was the reasonable take as you could see the sun rise and settle across the sky and the earth didn't feel like it was moving.

Aristotle was not trying to mislead anyone the way you do when you lie. He was just ignorabt of the information we have now or he would have supported the heliocentric theory given the tools and data we have now.

So aristotle did not lie, he spoke the truth as he was able to exoress it with what was known at the time.

Granted truth is unuversal, a lie requires knowing the truth or some element of it and intentionally speaking otherwise to deceive.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– QdaPeeps 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Not disputing it what so ever, I agree.

Just sayin, if "Sliver" is not an attorney, they should be!

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– KickingPugilist 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Hahaha ahhh gotcha!

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm a scientist. I've been studying the laws of nature and arguing our interpretation of them for a long time.

So kinda like a lawyer, only I have less money and more integrity (I like to think).

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Space_Monkey 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not the best analogy with Aristotle because technically the Sun and Earth revolve around each other. His theory is not wrong, its just not the whole picture.

Then again, maybe they did have it right back then and that history was rewritten to remove critical pieces of information to hold humanity back.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The Sun does not revolve around the Earth. Within the scope of the E-S two body system, the Earth and the Sun revolve around their collective center of mass.

That CoM is ever changing because of the influence of the multibody system that is our collection of planets, the rest of the stars and mass in our galaxy, the supercluster of galaxies that the Milky Way belongs to, the larger mass of all galaxies in the visible universe, the dark matter that may or may not exist along with those galaxies, and the dark energy that may or may not exist and influence the center of mass of the twobody Earth-Sun system as it drives the expansion of the universe.

And that's just from the theory of General Relativity that is almost certainly incomplete if not completely wrong (in some of its axioms).

But since the Sun is a million times more massive than the Earth, and that center of mass of the two body system is inside of the Sun, it is within the order of magnitude given by both Newton's and Einstein's theories of gravity correct to say that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– Space_Monkey 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

But since the Sun is a million times more massive than the Earth, and that center of mass of the two body system is inside of the Sun, it is within the order of magnitude given by both Newton's and Einstein's theories of gravity correct to say that the Earth revolves around the Sun.

That's pretty much what I was trying to say.

Technically one does not revolve around the other - they revolve around a mutual center of mass which due to the difference in size may as well be the sun. Anyways, I think we agree.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not the best analogy with Aristotle because technically the Sun and Earth revolve around each other. His theory is not wrong, its just not the whole picture.

His theory was completely wrong on all counts. In no way does the Sun revolve around the Earth. In every way measurable or discernable the Earth revolves around the sun, since the CoM of the E-S system is deep inside the Sun, barely a smidge away from the center of the sun.

To describe the orbit properly you need to take into account the CoM and put that as one of the foci of the elliptical orbit that will be calculated when you do that. But even that is not correct. That's Newton's theory.

In GR the mass density of the sun creates a shape of spacetime that the earth follows (a geodesic aka shortest possible path. In Euclidian (flat) space a geodesic is a straight line). That path, like Newton's model, is approximately an ellipse with one of the foci at the center of the CoM of the two body system. This foci almost coincides with the center of the sun. There are also other effects which alter that geodesic, such as the deformations of spacetime due to the other planets, and all the other effects I listed in my previous post. That doesn't even touch on the earths pulling on the aether ("spacetime" in GR parlance) which causes frame dragging which further effects the shape of the geodesic in time.

When one plots the path of the earth relative to the path of the sun in a 4D spacetime diagram using GR one sees the sun go on an almost perfectly straight line (in this E-S system) and the Earth go in a 4D spiral with the sun almost exactly at the center.

There is no discernable movement of the sun in such a system to a very high degree of measurement accuracy.

My argument is in the wording of your correction. The Earth absolutely revolves around the sun. They do not in any way revolve around each other. Thus using Aristotle as analogy was accurate to an extremely high order of magnitude.

Nothing is ever exact in any measurement or model we humans have ever created. Within the scope of what is measurable or discernible it was a perfect analogy. More importantly, your "correction" was substantially less accurate.

I apologize for being a dick about this, but you corrected me inaccurately, and I am trying to set the record straight.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Lying by omission is still lying, and they are experts at it too.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I agree that such an action (or inaction as the case may be) is a lie.

No matter how it happens, if someone is misleading, and they are doing it intentionally, then they are lying.

Contrarily if someone is misleading, and they do not intend to be, they are not lying.

Intent is everything.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Aspie 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

A lie is a lie. Try testifying to something you don't know the truth of, and see if you don't get charged for perjury when it turns out to be a lie.

Lying is the 2nd most broken of the Ten Commandments.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Slyver 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Now you're just being stubborn. I say things that are untrue all the time. I don't know that they are untrue, but they are untrue nonetheless. That doesn't make them lies. I am not intending to be misleading. I'm just not smart enough to know the truth of some (many/all) things.

A lie is an intent to mislead. It is not an untruth. It does not even need to be false. I don't even need to do anything at all to lie.

I can lie by omission. I can lie by truth leaving out important context (still completely true though) and I can lie by telling an untruth.

In each case I must be willfully and intentionally misleading in order to be lying.

Your "perjury" example a lie by untruth. I can however, in a court of law, lie by omission (sometimes) or by context (often) without penalty. Perjury is defined as follows:

perjury: The crime of willfully and knowingly making a false statement about a material fact while under oath.

Notice the explicit statement of "willfully and knowingly" aka intent.

You must intend to mislead in order to lie. You cannot lie if you do not intend to mislead.

Its very simple. Intent is required and explicitly stated within every legal definition of the term, and every court case judgement that decides it. Intent must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt for a guilty verdict (in a criminal case). The act of telling an untruth is irrelevant.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– MainAd 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Said Co-vid is a lie Corona Virus ID 19

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– p8riot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

But it is. And then, what does that make the vaccines? THE TRUE BIOWEAPON.

Covid was just the means to a cause. Anyone still promoting the vaccine (looking at you Trump) is a stooge or too blind to see past their own perceived accomplishment.

Problem-reaction-solution.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 11 ▼
– VetforTrump 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Implied we were lied to. Didn't directly say covid is a lie. Spoke about HCQ As an early therapy which you wouldn't do if the virus wasn't real. Talked about china's failure to act etc. The way it happened is a lie. It's purpose was to keep us closed to collapse us, give us the Vax to kill us and then have their control of the world without armed to the teeth pesky Americans.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– PeaceAndLovePatriot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Trump supported the JJ vax, which was pulled off the market, trapping big pharma in a scheme.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
▲ 2 ▼
– Nitrojunkie72 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I was watching a Mexican gentleman on Friday loading up a cooler with long neck bottle Corona's. While it made me kinda throw up in my mouth a little bit, he was happier than shit it was Friday and his Corona's are already on ice by 9 am.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
▲ 29 ▼
– Cyberhawk 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

Fake fake fake...omgosh! We MUST focus on the biggest threat to America! Censorship. We must get trust back, from our constituents! We must must MUST save our jobs, I mean our people...the children, I meant to say the children! See, we are serious now, after 17 months, we’re finally tuning in...WE R SMA4T!

You see what they are doing. Let’s make a huge deal about a fake virus, and show our people we care. We in reality, we HATE Donald Trump, we are scared about this audit...we are scared about his return, we are scared about our jobs, we did everything to help silence our own state on election integrity..Marsha Kneeburn. What she did to us Tennesseans, do not believe a word she says. She spouted off for months about standing up to election fraud. And promised us to the moon and back, about standing up for Trump...and planted those knees firmly in the padded carpet on Jan 6th. If she’s heading this up, it’s total BS. I’m telling ya, this is a distraction, plain and simple. All eyes on the AUDIT!

permalink save report block reply
▲ 7 ▼
– russiah 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Cuomo killed grandma's, not a lie.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 4 ▼
– Mehocmehogan 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They're gonna need a bigger fence.... LOL!

permalink save report block reply
▲ 4 ▼
– Cherylc64A19 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I would love to see them all held accountable!

permalink save report block reply
▲ 4 ▼
– corrbrick 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

This presentation does not in any way state that Corona is a lie. The Senators do bring up serious concerns about Fauci's culpability with the CCP, illegal gain-of-function research, the censorship by big-tech of a lab origin and early/alternative treatments for CV-19.

But, they all have bought completely into the alleged danger and reality of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the legitimacy of bogus PCR testing, and the need for a vaccine. They are completely overlooking what has been done in the name of a disease with a infection fatality rate of 0.03%. They are unconcerned about the eradication of freedoms, and the gradual enslavement of humanity.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
▲ 8 ▼
– trunalimunumaprzure 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

What’s the timestamp where she actually says that?

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 13 ▼
– JackANorey 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

First rule of timestamp..... There is no timestamp!

Just watched it. Wasn't mentioned. Just a mention of cover up and xyz should be held accounable and blah blah usual crap lip service! Well researched, OP

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– HenryTheRed 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Starts at 0:00 until the end of the video. They talk about big tech and the media cover-up, open public documents that showed gain of function research, talk about therapeutics.

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– ThisIsHowItStarts 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This yo does not state that coronavirus is a lie. It does say that it came for the Wuhan lab, it is a virus, and that big tech suppressed information regarding it. The title is hyperbolic, and click bait. But at least people are starting to speak out and that’s what’s the most important thing. There is some valuable information here, but the title is incorrect!

permalink save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– MAGA86er 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Fren, the ongoing "Public Health Emergency" is a lie. "There is no effective treatment" is a lie. This was over a year ago. But I can assure you, something was definitely released in NYC last March of 2020. I believe public transportation / La Guardia Airport spread it far & wide. State legislatures pleaded w/ Cuomo to shut subways down for 2 weeks. He would not. The nursing home directive / homes for the disabled - exasperated it. A lot of people died. Now, the way in which the city handled deaths, everyone brought to hospitals (everyone labeled Covid death, even for stroke, car accident, whatever)- instead of say coroners arriving @ a home of a deceased, then making funeral arrangements made the hospital morgues overflow (the need for refrigerator trucks).Then PCR tests, there was definitely book cookin'. This was planned meticulously to produce maximum visual impact. Was so good, Cuomo WON an award!!! HE led the charge across the blue states w/ Fauci in his ear the whole time & his stupid brother holding the megaphone. The villains - Wolf, Murphy, Whitmer - followed his lead. It is sickening what what went on in this state. NYC got blasted though- not a lie.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– WashingtonIsNext 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I remember reading that NYC did finally shut down the subways last spring, but only fucking half of them.... ya know, doubling how crowded they got

permalink parent save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– Pepe_Loves_Haggis 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

WOW!

NCSWIC

permalink save report block reply
▲ 3 ▼
– wannabe 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Good stuff. The things we all have been saying and being censored for is being talked about(out loud) in Congress.

Blackburn basically said this whole thing is bullshit. The others played the "leaked from the lab" card. I tend to agree with Senator Blackburn.

permalink save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– HenryTheRed 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Ends with a question. Dr. Fauci what did you do with our taxpayer dollar. Woah!

permalink save report block reply
▲ 2 ▼
– Immysteryman 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Bye-bye sec. 230

permalink save report block reply
▲ 1 ▼
– Gammmadorf 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Click baity bullshit. GAW is lookin like your grandma's FB feed.

permalink save report block reply

Welcome


The Great Awakening


We are researchers who deal in open-source information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of ideas and ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here. WE ARE THE PUBLIC FACE OF Q. OUR MISSION IS TO RED-PILL NORMIES.


WHY Q?

"Those who cannot understand that we cannot simply start arresting w/o first: ensuring the safety & well-being of the population shifting the narrative removing those in DC through resignation to ensure success defeating ISIS/MS13 to prevent fail-safes freezing assets to remove network-to-network abilities kill off COC to prevent top-down comms/org, etc. etc. should not be participating in discussions." Q


Welcome to the Digital Battlefield — Together We Win

Rules


Q Supporters

This is The Great Awakening. Our community is international, focused on helping ourselves and others walk away from the programming, and return our governments to "by the people, for the people!"



Follow the Law

No posts or comments that violate laws in your jurisdiction or the United States. The Feds are always watching!



No Bad Behavior!

No doxing, including revealing personal information of non-public figures, as well as addresses, phone numbers, etc. of public figures. All GAW users must adhere to the highest standards of conduct, whichever .WIN they are on. If we are notified by other moderators of incivil behavior on other .WINs, you WILL be banned here!



Civil Discussion ONLY**

They want you divided.

They want you labeled by race, religion, class, sex, etc.

Divided you are weak [no collective power].

Divided you attack each other and miss the true target [them].



No PAYtriots/No Self Promotion

Linking or promoting merchandise, fundraising, or spamming personal websites, blogs, or channels is not permitted. Do not attempt to profit from Q or advertise for those who do. Peace is the prize. We do it for free.



Questions and Concerns

All moderation questions and concerns should be submitted via modmail. DO NOT GRIEF the mods.



Expand your thinking

Remember, this .WIN is the public face of the Great Awakening, and, as a member here, you agree to represent the Great Awakening movement against Globalism, Communism and Progressive Insanity in the best, most positive way possible. NOTE: Your comments and posts may become news. Keep it classy!

This is not a 'fringe conspiracy' site: Visit https://conspiracies.win if that's your thing!



No doomers or shills

If you can't use common sense, you'll get banned without hesitation. If you're a shill, you fall under this rule. If you're a doomer, you fall under this rule as you just add garbage to the site like the other two. This includes forum sliding.



General Rules

  • Mods will issue NO warnings, followed by temporary bans and/or permanent bans. DO NOT GRIEF THE MODS.

  • Keep posts related to topics Q has raised or that are current.

  • Keep post duplication (especially from other .WINs) to a minimum.

  • HIGH EFFORT, HIGH-INFO posts only! Please respect other readers' time. Please use descriptive titles. No URLs in titles, pls. No clickbait.

  • No fame-fagging; no, "your" post did not get removed! Were you the original author?? Eyes on the prize, people!

  • Memes encouraged, but no low-quality, low-info posts.

  • Keep it honest and accurate.

  • GAW Supporters ONLY. (Sorry, the train had no brakes.)

  • Handshake noobs will be scrutinized by their Q knowledge, sincerity, and respect.

  • Remember, your conduct here represents the Q movement! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING!

  • Please direct all complaints to modmail first!


Resources


WELCOME TO THE DIGITAL BATTLEFIELD


"River of Search" script:


GAW post formatting tips


Q Research (Q only posts at 8kun)


Q post archives (qagg.news) others 1 2 3 4


Browse Drops from the beginning


QProofs.com


Learn to read the Q map


Book of Q Proofs v1.3 (pdf)


Law of War & Majic Eyes Qnly Resources


Trumps twitter archive


POTUS: The Calm Before The Storm


Pedosta and DNC dumps


GIFs & QPosts


Poll Post Format


SPY ON US! See: mod Logs


The Greatest Show on Earth!


New to Q? "The Earth Chronicles Ep 12: Q & The White-Hat Op: What's Real, What's Not?"


Moderators

  • dropgun
  • catsfive
  • AutoMod
  • Filter
  • Fatality
  • Qanaut
  • bubble_bursts
  • Brent75
  • and 5 more...
Message the Moderators

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy

2026.02.01 - pv4fp (status)

Copyright © 2026.

Terms of Service | Privacy Policy