Do you think that will ever happen? I used to be that way when I was younger. As I got older the truth was more important, realizing everyone makes mistakes and isn't perfect. I have no problem admitting if I'm wrong because I see it as growth to gain the knowledge for the next time around. I have noticed that the few lefty people that are around me can never admit they are wrong, arguing or making excuses to try to justify their thoughts or actions. On the other hand my conservative friends have a much easier time saying hey I screwed up or i was wrong. These are people I went to preschool with and grew up together, we mainly had the same life experiences I just don't see where they veered off the road.
I don't know why I'm this way, but I came out of the womb kicking and screaming for truth and justice. I actually welcome being proved wrong because it gives me a chance to grow in my understanding. That's always a good thing....as the saying goes: It is better to be slapped in the face with the truth than kissed with a lie.
The pain of wading through cognitive dissonance is preferable to living a life of lies.
I don’t know... it would be cool to to encourage everyone to take the personality test & take a poll. We must represent present a small fraction of society that can, for the first time since the time Babel, INJF types can collaborate & counter-act this multi-generational
It's why people like my 89-yr-old mother will NEVER leave the Democrat party. They just have too much pride invested. It's sad that people would rather support something they know to be wrong, than to admit they were wrong in believing it.
well Carl Sagan is WRONG. Sometimes learning you've been bamboozled is exactly the thing to explain all the mystifying shit that you went through. A coworker friend in her 50's related her RELIEF to learn that her parent was a narcissist and that she WASN'T crazy or the source of all the family problems like she was told. Over FIFTY YEARS of bamboozling done to her! Her stories were so miserable, but now she says she is a different, happier person for learning the truth. I believe her.
Your co-worker's experience is valid and must've been quite difficult. I can relate because I too suffered at the hands of a narcissistic parent. It took me many years to figure out that some humans are predatory. I've since read quite a bit about that specific personality disorder.
Obviously as a young person I simply had NO idea that people like that even existed. The projection, blame and gaslighting are unreal. What I don't know is if that experience caused me to be hyper vigilant/ultra skeptical???
I was adopted at birth so I give thanks to God every single day that I wasn't aborted. And also give thanks that I share no DNA with the NPD bamboozler who is unfit to call himself my father.
It was her PARENT. It's natural for a daughter to "submit" (as you call it) to her parent. A little child depends on the adult parent for everything! By the time she was a teen, she'd been brainwashed to believe over a decade of lies. Just went downhill from there. Very sad tale.
There is a reason why Sagan not used this term. Using terminology is the key to finding knowledge. And those kike & freemason was not good guy to help use it for good cause - or to share it. Understanding psychology and manipulation is very powerful knowledge by the way. Especially powerful and dangerous if somebody uses it for manipulation without qualm. Cabal members are doing that of course...
That’s why MK Ultra and big psyops involve trauma first then they guide the emotional response afterwards. 9/11 for example, big emotion, big tragedy then they guide that emotional response towards their goals; war, shredding the constitution, and mass surveillance.
This is why highly educated people are more likely to fall for scams and stay in scams: they can't admit that they were wrong or fooled ("I'm smart, how could I fall for simple confidence tricks?"), so they keep going along with the scam hoping that the scam is "real".
They don't just get you to abandon Christ, they teach you to hate him. I can feel the jealousy built into their indoctrination when they talk about Christianity and especially Christ.
I've met true geniuses that abandon all logic when repeating what they were taught....
I suspect that many of the "popular atheists" in our culture are secretly cabal, though. They have good reason to infiltrate and control that narrative for their purposes.
This belief in the bamboozle goes for the "Vaccine is a Poison" lie, too.
President Trump has endorsed the vaccines as safe, repeatedly... and yet, some folks would prefer to believe that our wonderful President - also known as Q+ - is committing global genocide, or allowing it to happen while encouraging others to get the jab. Sick.
You can either believe in Q and you believe in Trump, or you believe they both remain silent, and even facilitate the murder of 100's of millions of people the world over.
It is the Left, with classic projection, again - they WANTED to do it, so they shill some here into believing it, using the exact same techniques and narrative as the virus death numbers inflation.
Pride. Stupid people like to think they are smart. They will never abandon their comforting delusion. Doing so would finally prove to themselves, how stupid they actually are. Their fragile, artificially implanted self esteem can't handle that.
Do you think that will ever happen? I used to be that way when I was younger. As I got older the truth was more important, realizing everyone makes mistakes and isn't perfect. I have no problem admitting if I'm wrong because I see it as growth to gain the knowledge for the next time around. I have noticed that the few lefty people that are around me can never admit they are wrong, arguing or making excuses to try to justify their thoughts or actions. On the other hand my conservative friends have a much easier time saying hey I screwed up or i was wrong. These are people I went to preschool with and grew up together, we mainly had the same life experiences I just don't see where they veered off the road.
I don't know why I'm this way, but I came out of the womb kicking and screaming for truth and justice. I actually welcome being proved wrong because it gives me a chance to grow in my understanding. That's always a good thing....as the saying goes: It is better to be slapped in the face with the truth than kissed with a lie.
The pain of wading through cognitive dissonance is preferable to living a life of lies.
I am a HUGE skeptic. I ALWAYS have to have a plan B and go over it multiple times to look for the flaws.
I wonder how many of us are INFJ personalities? We are hard-wired for truth and authenticity.
Does it count if i'm 50% INFJ and 50% INTJ? On any given day I flip between them a lot I think.
I don’t know... it would be cool to to encourage everyone to take the personality test & take a poll. We must represent present a small fraction of society that can, for the first time since the time Babel, INJF types can collaborate & counter-act this multi-generational
That’s really me in a nutshell too. A blend. Just looked into that; very interesting indeed. ??
Funny you should mention this, I am an INTJ and my wife is an INFJ, both wide awake.
I feel that most of us are advocates, but most of us that do deep diving are analysts or logisticians.
Whoa that’s me. Interesting. It would be super curious to see who else on here is!
Here here! Well said?
I have the same experiences. It’s always the incorrigible who veer towards the left.
It's why people like my 89-yr-old mother will NEVER leave the Democrat party. They just have too much pride invested. It's sad that people would rather support something they know to be wrong, than to admit they were wrong in believing it.
The truth will set you free. But first it will piss you off.
Amen to that!
well Carl Sagan is WRONG. Sometimes learning you've been bamboozled is exactly the thing to explain all the mystifying shit that you went through. A coworker friend in her 50's related her RELIEF to learn that her parent was a narcissist and that she WASN'T crazy or the source of all the family problems like she was told. Over FIFTY YEARS of bamboozling done to her! Her stories were so miserable, but now she says she is a different, happier person for learning the truth. I believe her.
Your co-worker's experience is valid and must've been quite difficult. I can relate because I too suffered at the hands of a narcissistic parent. It took me many years to figure out that some humans are predatory. I've since read quite a bit about that specific personality disorder. Obviously as a young person I simply had NO idea that people like that even existed. The projection, blame and gaslighting are unreal. What I don't know is if that experience caused me to be hyper vigilant/ultra skeptical???
I was adopted at birth so I give thanks to God every single day that I wasn't aborted. And also give thanks that I share no DNA with the NPD bamboozler who is unfit to call himself my father.
Narcissism is rampant due to our diseased society. The cure, unfortunately is distancing yourself. IMO.
ABSOLUTELY. 100% NO contact is the only way.
It’s hard, but seeking Peace is THE WAY. ??
50 years of submission kinda proves his point don't you think?
It was her PARENT. It's natural for a daughter to "submit" (as you call it) to her parent. A little child depends on the adult parent for everything! By the time she was a teen, she'd been brainwashed to believe over a decade of lies. Just went downhill from there. Very sad tale.
In other words “cognitive dissonance”!
There is a reason why Sagan not used this term. Using terminology is the key to finding knowledge. And those kike & freemason was not good guy to help use it for good cause - or to share it. Understanding psychology and manipulation is very powerful knowledge by the way. Especially powerful and dangerous if somebody uses it for manipulation without qualm. Cabal members are doing that of course...
Sounds pretty typical for Gnostics/Freemasons/ect. They promote atheism to the masses while they believe their creepy mysticism in secret.
It’s because they know there is something more, they just are reaching out to the wrong entities.
His first wife Lynn Margulis was a serious 9/11 Truth Activist and researcher: http://911blogger.com/node/10912
i used to like this guy but he can shove his fake blue dot up his ass
Hmm, interesting perspective. I don't understand people like this. At all.
That’s why MK Ultra and big psyops involve trauma first then they guide the emotional response afterwards. 9/11 for example, big emotion, big tragedy then they guide that emotional response towards their goals; war, shredding the constitution, and mass surveillance.
Spoken by a bamboozler
"billions and billions"
RIP 33rd° Sagan.
Never liked his condescending tone.
Carl Sagan in a post with charlatan in the title? Shocked: not shocked.
This is why highly educated people are more likely to fall for scams and stay in scams: they can't admit that they were wrong or fooled ("I'm smart, how could I fall for simple confidence tricks?"), so they keep going along with the scam hoping that the scam is "real".
Proof Sagan was a mason? Very interested if you've got it.
This.
They don't just get you to abandon Christ, they teach you to hate him. I can feel the jealousy built into their indoctrination when they talk about Christianity and especially Christ.
I've met true geniuses that abandon all logic when repeating what they were taught....
Can't be a mason if you don't believe in a god.
I suspect that many of the "popular atheists" in our culture are secretly cabal, though. They have good reason to infiltrate and control that narrative for their purposes.
Just don't mention Jesus to the masons....
Agree, mentioned it above.
This belief in the bamboozle goes for the "Vaccine is a Poison" lie, too.
President Trump has endorsed the vaccines as safe, repeatedly... and yet, some folks would prefer to believe that our wonderful President - also known as Q+ - is committing global genocide, or allowing it to happen while encouraging others to get the jab. Sick.
You can either believe in Q and you believe in Trump, or you believe they both remain silent, and even facilitate the murder of 100's of millions of people the world over.
It is the Left, with classic projection, again - they WANTED to do it, so they shill some here into believing it, using the exact same techniques and narrative as the virus death numbers inflation.
https://qposts.online/post/461
Enjoy the SHOW.
There is no comfort in the truth.
Pride. Stupid people like to think they are smart. They will never abandon their comforting delusion. Doing so would finally prove to themselves, how stupid they actually are. Their fragile, artificially implanted self esteem can't handle that.
Basically brandolinis law To disprove BS is an order of magnitude harder than convincing someone of said BS
Cognitive dissonance