Full disclosure: I'm not a scientist, biologist, entomologist or any other "ist". However, I have an engineering background and I know how to research. And I am the original "doubting Thomas".
Recently there has been much pushing of a story about graphene oxide (GO) allegedly being found in a vaccine sample. It appears to have only one source, translated from Spanish. Various claims have been made as "facts" with zero evidence offered as far as I can find.
Example for you to read so that you know what I'm referring to:
https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/graphene-oxide-in-jabs-masks-and-swabs/
Some of the "facts" don't add up; for example, one story goes that the vaccine sample was diluted six times but each resultant sample contained 99% GO. Obviously, when you dilute something, it can't then contain 99% of anything because it consists principally of water. (However, if you dilute it enough, it will be 99% water!)
Other claims include the "fact" that GO "acquires magnetic properties". GO is not ferromagnetic. It's basically oxidised graphite. And no evidence is offered for this miraculous behaviour.
Their only "proof" that what they allegedly found is GO is that it "looks like" a photograph of GO.
And GO is affected "by 5G frequencies". Worth noting that, because of the oxygen content, GO is non-conductive so it can't act as an antenna. The molecules themselves might resonate but the frequency would need to be incredibly high. (I'll let the scientists/mathematicians out there calculate the actual frequency because the relevant articles don't divulge it. And the 5G spectrum is large.)
The story includes many other "facts" about GO's toxicity in the body. I've looked and I can't find any scientific studies to confirm these claims. There's one or two studies that find minor and short-lived effects on the eye, for example, but that's all.
So to me this looks as if somebody chose GO as a suitably mysterious substance and made up a scary story for reasons unknown.
For me, keeping an open mind, the jury is out until/unless a couple of independent labs test vaccine samples for the presence of GO.
Anyway, I am not telling you what to think; I'm asking you to use your discernment before helping to spread the single-source story that looks (to me) like a crafty work of fiction.
These are just my thoughts, following a couple of days exposure to these GO stories that are spreading throughout the Interweb and appearing here every day. I'm open to being proved wrong if actual scientific evidence can be produced but, for the moment, I'm filing it in the bullsh;t drawer.
Thanks for reading my musings.
It’s possible that the GO story is a hoax made up By the cabal to make the antivax crowd look like a bunch of buffoons. The jury is still out.
I agree. This feels a bit like that "Italian Job" with the sworn affadavits and "top Italian lawyer, which I think proved to be an elaborate spoof (that totally sucked me in, as did this at first).
You might want to look into that again, portions of it "might" have been hoaxed but there is quite a bit of truth in there....try this article
https://www.theyeoftheneedle.com/2021/07/01/hunter-bidens-ties-with-italy-how-the-axis-between-the-italian-and-the-us-deep-state-conceived-spygate-and-italygate/
And therein lies the problem. Like Alex Jones, if you mix enough truth with lies, people believe it.
Japan4Salt also posted this (thanks):
Whitney Webb thoroughly shows that the Spanish study did not prove there is graphene oxide in the vaxx.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oSQqoRwTQZqQ/
i would say that is probable not just possible. something to throw us off the actual trail, not just something to make us look stupid - but some dead end distraction
Agree! The jab is gene therapy and winter will reveal alot abt its effects.
Would not be the first time.
Good research. So many of the stories that go viral are from a single shaky source like this. Why can't people see that it's the same cycle just quoting each other over and over?
you would think something like this - a retraction, in effect, of a fake news item currently infecting the site, would be stickied by the mods. otherwise how is GAW any different than the MSM where they put the fake story on the front page and bury the retraction
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=graphene%20oxide&page=2
Comprehensive Review on Graphene Oxide for Use in Drug Delivery System. Daniyal M, Liu B, Wang W. Curr Med Chem. 2020;27(22):3665-3685. doi: 10.2174/13816128256661902011296290. PMID: 30706776 Review. Graphene and graphene oxide have been widely investigated for biomedical applications due to their exceptional qualities: twodimensional planar structure, wide surface area, chemical and mechanical constancy, sublime conductivity and excellent biocompatibilit …
Graphene Oxide Quantum Dot-Based Functional Nanomaterials for Effective Antimicrobial Applications. Nichols F, Chen S. Chem Rec. 2020 Dec;20(12):1505-1515. doi: 10.1002/tcr.202000090. Epub 2020 Sep 25. PMID: 32975907 Review. In this personal account, we summarize recent progress in the design and engineering of graphene oxide quantum dot-based nanomaterials as potent antimicrobial agents. Specifically, we examine the impacts of chemical reduction on the antimicrobial activity of grap …
Thanks, I haven't read it yet but what I glean from that synopsis is that it's probably not toxic or magnetic!
But one claims it is conductivity. At least in a sublime way, whatever that means.
Graphene Oxide is not conductive in the electrical sense.
There’s much hard evidence that these covid “vaccines” are unsafe (for many), ineffective, and not properly tested; But I agree these stories about graphene oxide seem a bit suspicious, and they may be an attempt to “poison the well” of credible information when, and if, they are debunked. This is a common deep state tactic.
I think they meant 99% purity. It was probably a translation problem.
GO can be ferromagnetic thought to be from impurities (doping) or maybe even edge effects where the empty orbitals can maybe resonate through the graphene lattice? (Just something I read in one of the abstracts as I was getting this link).
There are also MGOs which are (often) graphene oxide sheets with Fe3O4 (magnetite) nanoparticles attached to the oxidized end carbons on the graphene sheets, which display both superparamagnetism and ferromagnetism under different conditions.
Having said that, the paper I saw (here) did not show any evidence to support the claim, and most certainly not all GOs will display meaningful levels of magnetism of any type.
See my discussion of their images in the comment section here.
All molecules will heat up (vibrate) in a 5G field (or any field with a specific frequency). But saying GO is not conductive goes against a lot of evidence and a huge field of research. On the contrary, GOs of various sorts and with variant dopants and/or coprecipitates seem to be a particularly interesting field of study for exactly this purpose..
I didn't give them being antenna's any credence but then I found this.
This appears to be research on structures made out of ~200nm sized FeNi loaded rGOs. These multilayered graphene nanosheets seem to have maximal absorption on structures the order of about 1/10th the wavelength of the frequency, which, if we extend the graph on page 7 just a little bit more into the 5G range would put the size of such an antenna at sub 1mm. So 1mm long, a few hundred nm in diameter.
I don't know, its not implausible.
I am not in any way suggesting that this is in the vaccines. I do not think it is, and have seen no evidence to support that assertion, however, GOs that are of a size that are injectable could potentially self assemble and be antennas. Of course if they aren't attached to anything, being an antenna is not very useful; and such a device would require a whole lot more stuff going on than just GOs.
Completely agree. Some of the assertions have minimal support in the literature in a peripheral way, but zero actual evidential support. On the contrary, every piece of "evidence" I have seen so far has a larger support that the vaccines are exactly what they say they are.
Again, I agree. The data is inconclusive. I will always keep an open mind and look at new evidence. However, It requires discernment (and some knowledge) to separate actual evidence from fear porn (a form of disinformation to discredit those doing honest research).
Appreciate the analysis, thanks!
This feels like one of the many disinfo campaigns doing the rounds right now...
Thanks for providing an alternative explanation.
But Graphene oxide Can be made magnetic https://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.4869827
This article talks about the reactive nature of GO, and how they managed to get magnetite particles to attach to the sheets. https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp909756r So, is there some other compound in the vaccines, or is the GO interacting with the ammonia (see Tang's article above) or hemoglobin (contains iron)?
My point is that those researchers are talking about MAKING the GO magnetic. I saw some reports of the magnetism in arms becoming stronger as time elapsed. (Can't be arsed to find it, because it was one vid). So there may be something in it.
Anything can be made magnetic IF you add a ferromagnetic material to it (e.g. nickel or iron) but then it's a different substance. Pure Graphene Oxide is non-magnetic.
First, thanks for the rational thought. 2nd however, you could be a shill. But then again, so could I? See how that works?
So let me give you another profound thought to consider.
If we are all correct (and we surely think we are), then wouldn't this be the first time in history when the real cabal did NOT control both sides of an argument and dictate both opposing narratives?
If so, how did we do that? How would we know?
Maybe that is why we are led to look deep inside ourselves and evaluate who we actually are. The actual truth is found there. That union, at that level, is organic and is not and cannot be sold to us by controlled leaders and narratives.
If I was the Cabal, that would scare the hell out of me!
I could indeed be a shill asking you to do your own research and not blindly accept a single-source story. On that basis, Q could be a shill - so why are we here?
My point was it is getting very difficult to discern the truth and the cabal has a consistent track record for controlling all sides of any argument.
Yea looks like a disinformation campaign that will go well with the 5G alarmist also the mockingbird media has been pushing out for years.
Great analysis! I don't buy the whole graphene story for a different reason (I'm not very conversant in the natural sciences!). No one is checking to see whether the vial those researchers analyzed is representative of the Pfizer formulas being injected into people's arms.
I remember a thread on 4chan, which analyzed the vaccine lot numbers, and found that most VAERS complaints tended to come from a limited number of "hot lots," spread across the US. (Sorry, I don't have the link anymore.) It makes sense that, if we are part of a massive experiment, the contents of vials would differ in dosage and content. So, who knows what those researchers were using, even if it was a genuine vial of Pfizer vaccine?
'Magnetic graphene' forms a new kind of magnetism- https://phys.org/news/2021-02
https://phys.org/news/2021-02-magnetic-graphene-kind-magnetism.html
Yes but that's iron thiophosphate (FePS3) - a ferromagnetic material. We are discussing graphene oxide - derived from carbon graphite.
But this is a good example of how these stories are made somewhat convincing. You conflate totally different materials with similar sounding names. Bullsh;t Baffles Brains. :-)
yes and most people dont know how to read through scientific papers so it goes viral before it gets a thorough vetting
"Faced with the false information disseminated on some social networks and blogs about an interim report by a professor at the University of Almeria, who seems to question vaccines against Covid-19, the University of Almeria communicates that: It is flatly false that the University of Almeria has carried out a scientific study with the results that are being published by those media that, on the other hand, are misrepresenting the content of an unofficial report by a University professor on an analysis of a sample of unknown origin with a total absence of traceability. Report that this university neither subscribes nor shares, as the report itself warns. The University of Almeria, as an academic institution, fully supports vaccines as a scientifically unquestionable instrument to fight diseases. The University of Almeria studies and reserves the possibility of directing civil and criminal actions against those who continue to disclose the falsehoods that this statement denies."
Basically it's unverified, and likely a hoax by the deepstate like other users have said.
https://twitter.com/ualmeria/status/1410884237377560579
Thanks!