I like this line of thinking. I posted this on PW because this all seems so…..not right.
The US pulls out of Afghanistan. Leaves all the munitions behind. Allegedly the US has been training the locals for 20 years. that collapses in 2 days. who were we really training? or was that just the dark money cover? or a cover for something else?
maybe we’re arming them to fight their neighbors? china is one of those neighbors.
what if the Taliban are the MFers to go after china under the charge to free the Uyghurs from the camps? nobody can say the US is behind that. Oops taliban, you do you.
there are centuries of rage there. they are the definition of be ungovernable.
i’ve never looked into this, but why did russia invade afghanistan? why that country of all places?
none of this shit makes sense.
Sorry, but nope. Taliban are Shiite purists allied with Iran. Is Iran for or against China? Allied with. For everyone here who thinks they’re bringing purity to that country...maybe they’ll eradicate poppys? Ok. Other than that they thrive on extortion, murder and gang rape. I was there, worked with Interpreters who gave their lives and future to remove those scumbag murderers. Why are there millions of refugees streaming outta there? Right.
If they are in fact the taliban then you are correct. I posit they may be ISIS. Also his theory that this could have been inevitable knowing we were pulling out so Biden gets the blame. Which he deserves for his role starting the fuxking thing.
The CIA is alive and well in Afghanistan and protecting the Heroin crop for their One World Order Overlords. That's why the military was never allowed to "win" by the compromised leadership.
It was always supposed to be Talibanistan. They waited out 2 world powers and 40+ years of modern history and warfare to make it so. They dont care about Starbucks or McDonalds. They only want to be what they are and that's nothing like us.
Good to finally see acknowledgement here of what the Taliban is - they're basically the citizen militia of Afghanistan, not the "big bad terrorist organization" that the neocons portrayed them as to justify going in and taking over poppy production.
Taliban are Shiite purists allied with Iran. Is Iran for or against China? Allied with. For everyone here who thinks they’re bringing purity to that country...maybe they’ll eradicate poppys? Ok. Other than that they thrive on extortion, murder and gang rape. I was there, worked with Interpreters who gave their lives and future to remove those scumbag murderers. Our Government turned its back on Green Carding those same young freedom fighters so they evac’d to EU & Scandinavia cuz there’s a bounty on them. So now you have Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan all connected-one big slap-happy bunch of VERMIN. AT LEAST while we were there we were a stopgap in the center of that. Why are there millions of refugees streaming outta there? Right.
I was there too. The "resurgence", from what I saw, were warlords using specialized arab jihadist bombmakers and snipers and Iran (Cabal) funded muslim chechen and arab mercs. Shit was so convoluted. We had orders not to engage the chechens one day, then a couple weeks later a whole convoy of ANA would get wiped, and the chechens were the only ones with the hardware to do it. Then they were just gone (wiped out quietly or exfiltration - mission complete. (unsolved mystery) tribal warlord politics.)
The "Taliban" were just a populist movement, after we cut their leadership off it was all tribal politics playing out under the name of the Taliban. Every disconnected self serving warlord, many allied with Iran, were calling themselves the Taliban for street cred to revive the movement under their own self serving authority.
Not trying to neg your view of it, but its the view most comprehensible or palatable to how Americans see the world. Nations and governmental politics. Afghanistan was incomprehensible.
And to be fair, I was NOT at 40k altitude either, just my recollections that I'm still in in the process of reinterpretting in hindsight with the new information of how the world's power structure actually works, post redpill.
No offense taken Fren. Great analysis and can verify most. Think about it; a huge country each area cutoff by massive mountains & nasty terrain…point being Taliban didn’t organize any group of warlords & tribes into anything coherent. Like you said, with snake’s head cutoff it’s a jumblefuqq. Side note I was there ‘06-‘08 so a lot’s happened since. All that being said those Chechens are some NASTY warriors. Our guys went after them one time a small tribal leader had hosted a few hundred of them and they’d disappeared after raid started. They were in an elaborate tunnel system under that compound and it was obvious they’d lived there for weeks. (Imagine?). Russia had quite a time with them.
Exactly. Basically as I see it Mohammed Omar WAS the Taliban and without Omar, there is no Taliban. Uniting that rabble was a once in a thousand years occurance. It solidly reverted back to warlordism.
Now, I believe under Omar, the Taliban was actually a force for moderation and righteous populism. The occurances of scumbaggery in Afghanistan would need to be attributed to the base post-soviet broken and depraved warlord culture that he was on the process of reforming -- for that analysis to be correct. Which is not at all a stretch. Omar didn't have time to raise a generation in a nation without warlords, drugs and man-love thursdays.
Taliban today? Hopefully when we leave Afghanistan the original idealism of Omar's populist Taliban will overcome the fake warlord Taliban. Best we can do now is leave and save the good ones that gave it everything because they wanted their country to be badass like America. They would be good Americans really.
They would be good Americans. Several I knew had been schooled in Pakistan and were multi-lingual, intelligent and none of them were flakes. Maybe they were the cream (SF guys)...not sure? 12 years in MidEast...you get used to most being sketchy flakes. So many of the Taliban I saw (dead) had makeup and AK’s had gay stuff on the stocks. It was strange to see frankly. But all the Terps I knew were young Patriots. We’ll see...just another mess.
Gay stuff usually means you're dealing with warlords' expendable dancing boy soldiers. The Taliban was an idea to end warlordism, Omar's idea. Without Omar it was just warlords LARPing for street cred to gain better position. The warlords were on our "side" too. They were using us to knock off competition and take our money and resources. Only people that were fighting for a unified secure Afghanistan were John Rambo's tribe and the Afghanis they personally trained and a few odd patriots who got out and came back to translate, thinking they could help. The rest of Afghanistan was just using us to position themselves and their tribes in better standing in warlord wotld. Which only we didn't get the memo on that. The US big military units were basically just slogging through it. Do the job you are there to do, then go home. Colonel gets his Star, new Colonel for the next go.
What a fascinating peek into reality you painted. I was at countless “GI funeral” processions and I would seeth in anger over the sheer waste of our young troop’s lives. Regarding those dancing-boy gaylords…I recall a few sickening videos way back showcasing that stuff. It matched what I saw there. Regarding those warlords; was at one FOB near Parrot’s Beak where we’d taken over some gaylords compound. He & his band of homeboys would sit down by the gate bemoaning the loss of his mud castle…every day. They never attacked or did much, but slyly paid-off the ANA cretins ON THE BASE with hashish who would stage halfhearted attacks at night INSIDE THE WIRE. Our guy’s Cmdr finally wised-up. The whole thing was an incredible waste of our time & human resources but hey that’s what we do best?
I agree 100% with OP. The Afghan shitshow retreat is 100% the plan.
Patriots are in FULL CONTROL of everything you are watching.
Remember Trump's 17 letter message the other day: "BULLIES NEVER FIGHT!"?
Whatever that message meant, it meant SOMETHING. I think it meant that the last holdout, whoever was still giving our side problems, finally folded.
Everything accelerated right after that.
Buckle Up - We are in the Home Stretch. I think things are going to get really rough now, to wake up the remaining sheeple, as much as possible, and then we get our country back.
The Media in the UK were are reporting they are going house to house snatching girls as young as 12 to be sex slaves. However the Taliban are like the morality police, they got rid of the poppy fields and bacha bazi boys. Holding sex slaves does not appear to be their style at all - unless they have been unduly influenced by the way ISIS behaved.
Hard to be the morality police if you are holding sex slaves so something isn't adding up here.
Of course it is highly likely the media is lying and using old photos again (like they did with the Delta Variant ravaging India showing photos from the gas leak in 2020, pretending it was from Delta devastation).
I don't care who runs the Taliban. Never did. We have no business being there. Never have. Let the Afghani's figure it out. It's their country and they've never been conquered in almost 2,500 yrs. We have enough problems to deal with over here. Problems that our military could be dealing with, IF they knew The People demand it. Not the help [they] offer, but the help WE, THE PEOPLE need. The kind of help that gets rogue regimes removed from power. The kind of help that tries, convicts, and executes enemies of The People for trrwson, sedition, and crimes against humanity. The kind of help that, IF THE PEOPLE DEMAND from our military, they will most surely provide. All WE need to do is DEMAND it.
Yet, here we are, doing what we've been doing for 5 yrs now: "talking" about it, instead of "being" about it.
NONE of this madness changes until THE PEOPLE get involved. We have sufficient numbers now. All it takes is tens of millions of people DEMANDING it. En masse, organized protest.
I hear and see people all the time saying "it's habbening," or, "we have the numbers!" Well, PROVE IT. PROVE to the World we do, in fact, have those numbers.
Until then, this site and all the others like it are just noise. Noise gets us nowhere. And it all gets drowned out, in the process, b hind the caucophany of all the other sites that produce nothing but noise.
Symposiums won't work. Audits won't work. Random individuals showing up at random school board or county commission meetings aren't working. Nor will random individuals posting random items on the internet.
Don't get me wrong, sites like this one and the others are good for educating people. But, at the end of the day, it requires organized, widespread protests in numbers [they] can't possibly control. [they]'re continuing to enact the measures [they] have been telling us [they]'ll they'll enact. And [they]'ve been telling us for decades now. This PROVES that unorganized, small time, local, single minded protests don't work.
It's time to organize and take to the streets, en masse. Ran Paul says, "[they] can't arrest us all." Well, now IS the time to prove it. Any late time given to [them] to continue organizing is time wasted.
You’ve got it! The Taliban is C_A controlled and they timed their comeback perfectly. Afghanistan allows the media not to cover the Cyber Symposium and election fraud. Even Bannon is falling for it. Not much coverage of election fraud evidence from the symposium.
When Trump ordered for our military to come home, he told them to bring back every single thing of ours. Obiden tells them to leave it there. He knew he would need a distraction. Theyre not worried about the Taliban, DS has been doing business with them for years. The symposium hits, all 50 states have now signed for audits. Durham report to come soon. Biden ordered to reverse immigration. Theyre cover is blown. They all signal "code red". Suddenly we're going back to Afghanistan sending our men and women to die by our own weapons to bury this, the Hunter Biden story and everything else unfolding. Plus they know its the military that will arrest them so they want them occupied as well.
The guy who ran the Dog Kebob down the street died and it looks like we will have a replacement within a month. Thanks Joe, now we will be able to keep the place open and keep the strays under control in our community. A BIG Win Win Win for us.
I like this line of thinking. I posted this on PW because this all seems so…..not right.
The US pulls out of Afghanistan. Leaves all the munitions behind. Allegedly the US has been training the locals for 20 years. that collapses in 2 days. who were we really training? or was that just the dark money cover? or a cover for something else?
maybe we’re arming them to fight their neighbors? china is one of those neighbors.
what if the Taliban are the MFers to go after china under the charge to free the Uyghurs from the camps? nobody can say the US is behind that. Oops taliban, you do you.
there are centuries of rage there. they are the definition of be ungovernable.
i’ve never looked into this, but why did russia invade afghanistan? why that country of all places? none of this shit makes sense.
something deeper is happening here.
Sorry, but nope. Taliban are Shiite purists allied with Iran. Is Iran for or against China? Allied with. For everyone here who thinks they’re bringing purity to that country...maybe they’ll eradicate poppys? Ok. Other than that they thrive on extortion, murder and gang rape. I was there, worked with Interpreters who gave their lives and future to remove those scumbag murderers. Why are there millions of refugees streaming outta there? Right.
If they are in fact the taliban then you are correct. I posit they may be ISIS. Also his theory that this could have been inevitable knowing we were pulling out so Biden gets the blame. Which he deserves for his role starting the fuxking thing.
Completely agree 👍🏽
Oil piplines
There’s that ☝🏼
The CIA is alive and well in Afghanistan and protecting the Heroin crop for their One World Order Overlords. That's why the military was never allowed to "win" by the compromised leadership.
I hope the Taliban burn it all down as one of their first acts.
This is a good possible answer. A lot of people want the drugs to flow…
Dune has entered the chat 😁
The spiiiiice.....
Muad Dib!
The Taliban beheaded an interpreter that was helping the US with language. SAME MO as the old guard.
True. Raping little girls and women too!
Don't forget the dancing boys. Raped on Thursdays so they could get forgiveness from Allah the day after.
Why is this stickied? Right, wrong, doesn't matter. This is a high-info post that drives discussion.
It was always supposed to be Talibanistan. They waited out 2 world powers and 40+ years of modern history and warfare to make it so. They dont care about Starbucks or McDonalds. They only want to be what they are and that's nothing like us.
Good to finally see acknowledgement here of what the Taliban is - they're basically the citizen militia of Afghanistan, not the "big bad terrorist organization" that the neocons portrayed them as to justify going in and taking over poppy production.
The Taliban are terrorists. There might be a few good ones, but they are generally terrorists. Beheadings. Rapes. Beatings.
More or less bloodthirsty than a Clinton?
More or less rapey than a Biden?
More or less beatings than BLM, Antifa, or the FBI?
Those stonings I’ve been seeing are really not so bad. /sarc off
Muslim is a muslim. No such thing as bases islam.
😁😂
Taliban are Shiite purists allied with Iran. Is Iran for or against China? Allied with. For everyone here who thinks they’re bringing purity to that country...maybe they’ll eradicate poppys? Ok. Other than that they thrive on extortion, murder and gang rape. I was there, worked with Interpreters who gave their lives and future to remove those scumbag murderers. Our Government turned its back on Green Carding those same young freedom fighters so they evac’d to EU & Scandinavia cuz there’s a bounty on them. So now you have Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan all connected-one big slap-happy bunch of VERMIN. AT LEAST while we were there we were a stopgap in the center of that. Why are there millions of refugees streaming outta there? Right.
I was there too. The "resurgence", from what I saw, were warlords using specialized arab jihadist bombmakers and snipers and Iran (Cabal) funded muslim chechen and arab mercs. Shit was so convoluted. We had orders not to engage the chechens one day, then a couple weeks later a whole convoy of ANA would get wiped, and the chechens were the only ones with the hardware to do it. Then they were just gone (wiped out quietly or exfiltration - mission complete. (unsolved mystery) tribal warlord politics.)
The "Taliban" were just a populist movement, after we cut their leadership off it was all tribal politics playing out under the name of the Taliban. Every disconnected self serving warlord, many allied with Iran, were calling themselves the Taliban for street cred to revive the movement under their own self serving authority.
Not trying to neg your view of it, but its the view most comprehensible or palatable to how Americans see the world. Nations and governmental politics. Afghanistan was incomprehensible.
And to be fair, I was NOT at 40k altitude either, just my recollections that I'm still in in the process of reinterpretting in hindsight with the new information of how the world's power structure actually works, post redpill.
No offense taken Fren. Great analysis and can verify most. Think about it; a huge country each area cutoff by massive mountains & nasty terrain…point being Taliban didn’t organize any group of warlords & tribes into anything coherent. Like you said, with snake’s head cutoff it’s a jumblefuqq. Side note I was there ‘06-‘08 so a lot’s happened since. All that being said those Chechens are some NASTY warriors. Our guys went after them one time a small tribal leader had hosted a few hundred of them and they’d disappeared after raid started. They were in an elaborate tunnel system under that compound and it was obvious they’d lived there for weeks. (Imagine?). Russia had quite a time with them.
Exactly. Basically as I see it Mohammed Omar WAS the Taliban and without Omar, there is no Taliban. Uniting that rabble was a once in a thousand years occurance. It solidly reverted back to warlordism.
Now, I believe under Omar, the Taliban was actually a force for moderation and righteous populism. The occurances of scumbaggery in Afghanistan would need to be attributed to the base post-soviet broken and depraved warlord culture that he was on the process of reforming -- for that analysis to be correct. Which is not at all a stretch. Omar didn't have time to raise a generation in a nation without warlords, drugs and man-love thursdays.
Taliban today? Hopefully when we leave Afghanistan the original idealism of Omar's populist Taliban will overcome the fake warlord Taliban. Best we can do now is leave and save the good ones that gave it everything because they wanted their country to be badass like America. They would be good Americans really.
They would be good Americans. Several I knew had been schooled in Pakistan and were multi-lingual, intelligent and none of them were flakes. Maybe they were the cream (SF guys)...not sure? 12 years in MidEast...you get used to most being sketchy flakes. So many of the Taliban I saw (dead) had makeup and AK’s had gay stuff on the stocks. It was strange to see frankly. But all the Terps I knew were young Patriots. We’ll see...just another mess.
Gay stuff usually means you're dealing with warlords' expendable dancing boy soldiers. The Taliban was an idea to end warlordism, Omar's idea. Without Omar it was just warlords LARPing for street cred to gain better position. The warlords were on our "side" too. They were using us to knock off competition and take our money and resources. Only people that were fighting for a unified secure Afghanistan were John Rambo's tribe and the Afghanis they personally trained and a few odd patriots who got out and came back to translate, thinking they could help. The rest of Afghanistan was just using us to position themselves and their tribes in better standing in warlord wotld. Which only we didn't get the memo on that. The US big military units were basically just slogging through it. Do the job you are there to do, then go home. Colonel gets his Star, new Colonel for the next go.
What a fascinating peek into reality you painted. I was at countless “GI funeral” processions and I would seeth in anger over the sheer waste of our young troop’s lives. Regarding those dancing-boy gaylords…I recall a few sickening videos way back showcasing that stuff. It matched what I saw there. Regarding those warlords; was at one FOB near Parrot’s Beak where we’d taken over some gaylords compound. He & his band of homeboys would sit down by the gate bemoaning the loss of his mud castle…every day. They never attacked or did much, but slyly paid-off the ANA cretins ON THE BASE with hashish who would stage halfhearted attacks at night INSIDE THE WIRE. Our guy’s Cmdr finally wised-up. The whole thing was an incredible waste of our time & human resources but hey that’s what we do best?
I agree 100% with OP. The Afghan shitshow retreat is 100% the plan.
Patriots are in FULL CONTROL of everything you are watching.
Remember Trump's 17 letter message the other day: "BULLIES NEVER FIGHT!"?
Whatever that message meant, it meant SOMETHING. I think it meant that the last holdout, whoever was still giving our side problems, finally folded.
Everything accelerated right after that.
Buckle Up - We are in the Home Stretch. I think things are going to get really rough now, to wake up the remaining sheeple, as much as possible, and then we get our country back.
ENJOY THE SHOW..!
The Media in the UK were are reporting they are going house to house snatching girls as young as 12 to be sex slaves. However the Taliban are like the morality police, they got rid of the poppy fields and bacha bazi boys. Holding sex slaves does not appear to be their style at all - unless they have been unduly influenced by the way ISIS behaved.
Hard to be the morality police if you are holding sex slaves so something isn't adding up here.
Of course it is highly likely the media is lying and using old photos again (like they did with the Delta Variant ravaging India showing photos from the gas leak in 2020, pretending it was from Delta devastation).
Thank you for your analysis, give food for thought.
I don't care who runs the Taliban. Never did. We have no business being there. Never have. Let the Afghani's figure it out. It's their country and they've never been conquered in almost 2,500 yrs. We have enough problems to deal with over here. Problems that our military could be dealing with, IF they knew The People demand it. Not the help [they] offer, but the help WE, THE PEOPLE need. The kind of help that gets rogue regimes removed from power. The kind of help that tries, convicts, and executes enemies of The People for trrwson, sedition, and crimes against humanity. The kind of help that, IF THE PEOPLE DEMAND from our military, they will most surely provide. All WE need to do is DEMAND it.
Yet, here we are, doing what we've been doing for 5 yrs now: "talking" about it, instead of "being" about it.
NONE of this madness changes until THE PEOPLE get involved. We have sufficient numbers now. All it takes is tens of millions of people DEMANDING it. En masse, organized protest.
I hear and see people all the time saying "it's habbening," or, "we have the numbers!" Well, PROVE IT. PROVE to the World we do, in fact, have those numbers.
Until then, this site and all the others like it are just noise. Noise gets us nowhere. And it all gets drowned out, in the process, b hind the caucophany of all the other sites that produce nothing but noise.
Symposiums won't work. Audits won't work. Random individuals showing up at random school board or county commission meetings aren't working. Nor will random individuals posting random items on the internet.
Don't get me wrong, sites like this one and the others are good for educating people. But, at the end of the day, it requires organized, widespread protests in numbers [they] can't possibly control. [they]'re continuing to enact the measures [they] have been telling us [they]'ll they'll enact. And [they]'ve been telling us for decades now. This PROVES that unorganized, small time, local, single minded protests don't work.
It's time to organize and take to the streets, en masse. Ran Paul says, "[they] can't arrest us all." Well, now IS the time to prove it. Any late time given to [them] to continue organizing is time wasted.
Agree
You’ve got it! The Taliban is C_A controlled and they timed their comeback perfectly. Afghanistan allows the media not to cover the Cyber Symposium and election fraud. Even Bannon is falling for it. Not much coverage of election fraud evidence from the symposium.
When Trump ordered for our military to come home, he told them to bring back every single thing of ours. Obiden tells them to leave it there. He knew he would need a distraction. Theyre not worried about the Taliban, DS has been doing business with them for years. The symposium hits, all 50 states have now signed for audits. Durham report to come soon. Biden ordered to reverse immigration. Theyre cover is blown. They all signal "code red". Suddenly we're going back to Afghanistan sending our men and women to die by our own weapons to bury this, the Hunter Biden story and everything else unfolding. Plus they know its the military that will arrest them so they want them occupied as well.
Little girls are being handed over to the taliban as spoils of war for wives or other horrible outcomes. Disgusting
Who cares what they do as long as were out.
Bro nah 🤣 I fucking hate how much sense this makes. Taliban being the good guys would be the most weirdass meta shit YET
It seems similar to how the British army left Israel/Palestine in 48.
Sir, sadly I report its not the Tali. Its ISIS
The guy who ran the Dog Kebob down the street died and it looks like we will have a replacement within a month. Thanks Joe, now we will be able to keep the place open and keep the strays under control in our community. A BIG Win Win Win for us.