Not while taxiing and you're losing a ton of fidelity on that shitbox microphone on that phone with matching shitbox video quality.
Also looking inside the engine looks empty, can't see any rotors like in these photos.
"Looks" empty. But it's not. Again, shitbox phone cameras favor bright light. The shadows are sharp enough here to cause the camera to completely wash out most of the detail in the dark shadows in favor of being able to see the areas lit by the sun.
Here is a version of the video that is slightly (only) better quality that better shows the turbines as the plane passes.
Not to mention I can see both doors on the fuselage fairly clearly at 0:07.
You can also see through the forward windscreens immediately before that, except for the starboard one. The windscreens are made out of polycarbonate, which is polarized and filters light in a very specific direction.
Since the angle of the starboard windscreen is ~25° relative to the camera, there wouldn't be much light transmission from inside the cabin. By contrast, you can see through the forward windscreens when the camera is in front of the plane (about 75-80°).
The plane was taxiing. If it was departing, clearance would have never been given with that many people obstructing by climbing on the landing gear, near the engine intakes, etc. Therefor, it looks more like an approach to the terminal or in this case, a jet pad. The guys surrounding the landing gear appear to be on a vehicle not the landing gear, itself.
LIKE THIS The consistent motion also indicates a tow job, not jet powered.
The crowd looks festive, not panicked. Are we to believe those that 'climb on' really thought they were being rescued and flown to America?
The object(s) that fell from the plane on takeoff could have been anything, even shopped in, the video quality was that poor. Also, the acceleration of the object increases too rapidly in the videos provided.
For me it’s the quality of the video..... especially when you look at details on individuals even closer to the camera than the plane..... I could make out the hatches mentioned by the OP ..... once you start pausing you can see their lines....
Plus why use a replica....? And if it’s a creation of bad actors then it’s images like this that makes them look bad.... so I don’t see the logic for doing it in the first place.... it’s just as easy to stage manage these images with a real C17.... or indeed photo shop them....
If the OP could explain why? I might be more accepting of his premis....
Assuming this was a bit of stage managed fakery (and I don't know, just thought it was a bit strange) this would be the logic:
Fake plane so the "desperate scenes" can be shot without anyone getting killed, which would be a real danger if using a real plane, also could wreak the plane. I just cannot imagine the pilot allowing a situation like that on a runway, it is too unsafe.
Why release fake? a little bit of encouragement to us who spot it, it confirms the movie idea, proves control. The fact that it embarrasses Biden suggests if it is faked, it would not be them faking it. I dont know, I'm in the dark as everyone else... could all be genuine crisis for all I know.
those dont look like the faces of people fleeing for their lives, one guy is smiling and waving at the camera, plus if you notice they are all closely encircling the bottom , which you cannot see any light through btw. like they are hiding how its moving, maybe its on a truck. plus its all dudes and guys who might actually be able to run, no women or children or anybody but guys waiting for their 50 bucks to run next to a prop. just my opinion.
Don't disregard the possibility that there are different versions of the same plane, depending on what they were built for or or later improvements. It all does seem staged
Wow the windows look like they were painted on with black paint if you slow down the video and/or pause it.
and looks like they are actually pulling it along...or am I seeing things?
and half the "taliban" look like my friends let their facial hair grow for a couple months
This
Wouldn't the engines be much louder than that?
Also looking inside the engine looks empty, can't see any rotors like in these photos.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/C-17_engine_detail.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/8069/29595265446_e67d1360af_b.jpg
Not while taxiing and you're losing a ton of fidelity on that shitbox microphone on that phone with matching shitbox video quality.
"Looks" empty. But it's not. Again, shitbox phone cameras favor bright light. The shadows are sharp enough here to cause the camera to completely wash out most of the detail in the dark shadows in favor of being able to see the areas lit by the sun.
Here is a version of the video that is slightly (only) better quality that better shows the turbines as the plane passes.
Not to mention I can see both doors on the fuselage fairly clearly at 0:07.
You can also see through the forward windscreens immediately before that, except for the starboard one. The windscreens are made out of polycarbonate, which is polarized and filters light in a very specific direction.
Since the angle of the starboard windscreen is ~25° relative to the camera, there wouldn't be much light transmission from inside the cabin. By contrast, you can see through the forward windscreens when the camera is in front of the plane (about 75-80°).
The plane was taxiing. If it was departing, clearance would have never been given with that many people obstructing by climbing on the landing gear, near the engine intakes, etc. Therefor, it looks more like an approach to the terminal or in this case, a jet pad. The guys surrounding the landing gear appear to be on a vehicle not the landing gear, itself. LIKE THIS The consistent motion also indicates a tow job, not jet powered.
The crowd looks festive, not panicked. Are we to believe those that 'climb on' really thought they were being rescued and flown to America?
The object(s) that fell from the plane on takeoff could have been anything, even shopped in, the video quality was that poor. Also, the acceleration of the object increases too rapidly in the videos provided.
Would you be able to hear the guys cheering over the sound of the engine?
Fake sounds right. How the hell are people running behind the jets? Those things would be putting out massive thrust in order to move that plane
Good griefeses.
No dude or dudette, it is real.
Damn.
https://files.catbox.moe/legik6.mp4
More angles https://files.catbox.moe/7aepsd.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/i7lymm.mp4
We just going to ignore the fact they are all smiling?
Yes, I saw that, it pointed out debunkables. Although I am cooling on the fake plane theory but not the staged op theory...
For me it’s the quality of the video..... especially when you look at details on individuals even closer to the camera than the plane..... I could make out the hatches mentioned by the OP ..... once you start pausing you can see their lines....
Plus why use a replica....? And if it’s a creation of bad actors then it’s images like this that makes them look bad.... so I don’t see the logic for doing it in the first place.... it’s just as easy to stage manage these images with a real C17.... or indeed photo shop them....
If the OP could explain why? I might be more accepting of his premis....
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Assuming this was a bit of stage managed fakery (and I don't know, just thought it was a bit strange) this would be the logic:
Fake plane so the "desperate scenes" can be shot without anyone getting killed, which would be a real danger if using a real plane, also could wreak the plane. I just cannot imagine the pilot allowing a situation like that on a runway, it is too unsafe.
Why release fake? a little bit of encouragement to us who spot it, it confirms the movie idea, proves control. The fact that it embarrasses Biden suggests if it is faked, it would not be them faking it. I dont know, I'm in the dark as everyone else... could all be genuine crisis for all I know.
https://www.radarbox.com/data/registration/02-1109
This is some real schizo level shit. It's just shitty video quality.
https://gab.com/CONSPIRACYlinks/posts/106777610594718311 Is this hole part of the planes design?
I've seen that on other photos I've looked at yes.
those dont look like the faces of people fleeing for their lives, one guy is smiling and waving at the camera, plus if you notice they are all closely encircling the bottom , which you cannot see any light through btw. like they are hiding how its moving, maybe its on a truck. plus its all dudes and guys who might actually be able to run, no women or children or anybody but guys waiting for their 50 bucks to run next to a prop. just my opinion.
LOL this reminds me of Jewel of the Nile.
Don't disregard the possibility that there are different versions of the same plane, depending on what they were built for or or later improvements. It all does seem staged
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This is dumb, Oh, yes we have infinite money but we will use a fake plane.