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Here's some easy proof they aren't very dangerous. Remember when we posted this Pfizer study showing the same amount of deaths in the vaccine and placebo groups? If the vaccine was a killshot, why doesn't the vaccinated group have many more deaths? (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 4 years ago by Heckles 4 years ago by Heckles +15 / -0
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– JulesW 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Heckles, you are a miserable fucking prick.

Do you not understand they fucking lie in these studies and cook the stats any way they want?

Pro tip: 13 year olds don’t routinely die in their sleep. Young males don’t inexplicably exhibit myocarditis. This is happening.

Shut the fuck up. We understand you got vaxxed. You probably got placebo, sadly for us. Crawl back to your fucking hole and never come here again.

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– g8rb81 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

It's not supposed to kill you right away. It kills you the next time you get a cold.

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– parlevoo 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

1 person died from "death", and another died from "missing"

Probably not really accurate

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– Heckles [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Oh, but it was accurate enough for us to use to say the vaccine doesn't work? Rediculous.

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– deleted 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0
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– Deadeye 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Hey mods. Why hasn’t Heckles been deported? We know from Harvard study that VAERS is only 1% reported. This shill is the epitome of misinformation.

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– Heckles [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'm literally just posting a study THAT I GOT FROM HERE showing that a placebo group didn't die more than the vaccine group. How is that misinformation? Are you so stuck to your narrative, you can't see straight?

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– BigRichardEnergy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Not everything on this site is fact and truth. It's your responsibility to research and check. Also, why would you believe a whole group of known liars?

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– wideawakeuk 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Might want to check what the placebo was. They have a habit of making the placebo a different vax to cloud the stats.

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– Red_Pill_Pusher_Man 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Something this chart also point out - there were not any fewer deaths among the vaxxed either. So, if they are effective, why are there not less deaths? Also check out the heart issues on the chart - those last a lifetime, even if someone in this study did not die during the course of the study.

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– Heckles [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes, this data shows the vaccine is relatively safe and relatively ineffective.

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– Hemanbattlecat 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Short term....

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– Heckles [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Ineffective means not effective. And you call me retarded?

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– Heckles [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

What are you confused about? This data shows the vaccine possibly prevented two covid deaths and possibly caused three heart attacks. For 44k people, neither of those numbers is significant. It doesn't appear to do much of anything besides make Pfizer a load of money.

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– THEPATRIOTICTECH 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

So the video of the pfizer ceo saying after the vaccine you have lower t cells and would require boosters to fight off infection, are we supposed to forget about that? Also pretty sure it came out that pfizer vaccinated their control group which would be telling here considering (like you said) the two different groups have almost the same numbers. Its not a lethal injection shot that kills you in a couple days. No one here is claiming that. But what data do you have for the effects in 3 years from now? 2 years? A year? None. And you cant even compare it to any other vaccine weve had before because it isnt like any other vaccine. Its gene therapy. To call it a vaccine is a gross misrepresentation of what it is. A vaccine that still allows you to contract and have symptoms of a disease youre meant to have exclusive protection from, is not a vaccine.

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– Wannastayfree 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Heckles, I think all these studies are skewed. Example: my first cousin took the jab for work on Monday and clotted on Thursday early morning (died)—was it a “normal” heart attack on a very healthy person? Don’t really know do we? My neighbor took the jab 3 weeks ago today (Monday) and was mowing his yard the next day when he couldn’t breathe and got whisked away to large city hospital-died on Wednesday due to clotting caused several strokes. Was it the jab or is it because Mondays are the only day the real serum is used in the jab? Until real Pathology to determine the cause is done and results released it will be all conjecture BUT when the coincidences keep adding up you have to believe something is wrong.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Here's the thing, this is the internet and everyone lies. When somebody tells my their aunt's neighbor's grandma died after the vaxx, I just ignore it. Same way I ignore all the people claiming their brother's son's cousin died from Covid. It would take hard data of our death rates increasing for me believe in this depopulation stuff.

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– Wannastayfree 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

No disagreement there. If you have a problem with the internet Just ask Jake at State Farm right? Lol. Listen, I am seeing way to many “coincidences” in my field of work to just right this off as an internet fad. The only thing we all know for certain is “time will tell”

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– Shady19 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Why did we overreact to COVID-19? There’s a question. Did more deaths occur in 2020 or 2021 than 2019 or 2018?

How come hospitals are financially incentivized to label deaths as Covid? Where is that money coming from? What is to stop a hospital from mislabeling the flu as Covid to receive more money?

If the 2020 election was so secure, then why did it take weeks to determine the electoral votes in numerous swing states? If votes can be counted all in the same night for the past 30 years, then why could they not this time? If there were so many mail-in ballots, why weren’t they counted by 6PM Wednesday evening?

There is too much hand-waving explanation and corruption right now.

Here’s a good question for everyone, think to yourself and ask, “What if I’m wrong?” Have you attacked people’s character or their positions? If the vaccine ends up being ok, then hesitant people likely only delayed their vaccination (and vaccinated people would/should be safe from COVID). If vaccines are not ok AKA harmful, then hesitant people were trying to lookout for themselves and others.

So if the vaccine works, why are vaccinated people mad?

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– Heckles [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I have to do your thinking for you. Okay:

If the vaccine was killing large amounts of people, it would would easily show up in this data. The number of deaths for the placebo group would be much lower than the number of deaths for the vaccinated group. What are you confused about?

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– Heckles [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah, just insult me because you can't argue with the very basic concept I just laid out for you. Thanks for admitting defeat.

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– 3Beans 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's been postulated the original vax were "ok" so to speak, or saline. As first responders, medical personnel, and govt were first to receive, if they all died from it nobody would take it. It's also been postulated most of the vials were switched out for saline. There are, apparently, 10 lots that are causing the most problems. And it's been postulated jabs post-March/April timeframe were contained the bioweapons. At this point, it's safe to assume we are in WW3 -- but the battle lines are much different than what humanity is used to. I tend to NOT believe doctors and govt, at all. How can we with this whole planned nightmare? I never thought the medical profession would be the one to foment Marxism, but here we are!

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– Mr_A 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I appreciate the counter-argument. That said, I spoke with two people in the last few days who had family members die after the moderna vaccine, one within two weeks of the first shot, the other the same day as the second shot. They were at an anti-mandate protest, holding signs. Professional agitators/spooks? Maybe: they looked about the right age and profile. I also have a personal friend who had been cancer free for 4 years, whose old cancer flared up again about a month after the first shot and is now in chemo again. And a bunch of friends who have been vaccinated with no observable effects.

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Care to first provide a link to whatever it is you are taking screenshots from?

And, care to check how long they monitored after the 2nd dose?

Now tell me how you can be sure they dont cause any long term issues?

why doesn't the vaccinated group have many more deaths?

Simple, because it takes much longer before its effects are know.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It was posted here a few weeks back. Twitter banned the guy for posting it. I just screenshotted this part, don't have the link, but you can probably find it from Pfizer or searching on here.

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yeah I know the Pfizer clinical trial that was used to get the EUA and this ain't it.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

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– Vkp23 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So here’s my thing. Why trust numbers solidly on one study when we know for a fact that our government is very liberal (as dr birx put it) on what we label one death to another? Example: the story of the guy who died in a motorcycle accident and was listed as a covid death because he tested positive after he died. It’s the difference between dying WITH covid or dying FROM covid. The same/opposite can be then reasonably assumed to be true when it comes to the vaxx. Also, why are we trusting one single study? Most people with half a brain know that you can’t go by one singular study. For example, there is a study out there that shows among pregnant women 20 weeks and below have an 82% miscarriage rage due to clotting in the placenta. wouldn’t it be considered dangerous, at least for pregnant women, considering that? Why wasn’t that listed in this study? It’s still a death possibly linked to the vaxx.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not trusting one study. Here are my reasons for thinking the vaccines are RELATIVELY safe:

  1. This study.
  2. The fact that hundreds of millions of people took it and our death rates haven't increased.
  3. Trump says it's safe.
  4. Everyone I know who took it is fine.
  5. There has been A TON of false "be afraid of the vaccine" propaganda posted here. Magnets, etc.
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– Vkp23 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Look, I agree that most people who have gotten it have been fine. (So far) But we don’t know the long term effects. This study doesn’t tell how effective it is either. My son has a heart defect and the vaxx would almost certainly kill him due to heart swelling in children being a known side effect. How many other people who are out there like me who don’t get the vaxx vpbecause they know if other underlying conditions? The poke would have def killed those people and easily increased the numbers.

Also there are a lot of reasons for death in that study that could possibly be linked directly to a death caused by vaxx. Like sepsis. And one last thing, the old tried and true vaccines that have been around for years have extremely low adverse reaction rates and even lower death rates. We are talking one in a hundreds of thousands type numbers. The adverse reaction rates for the covid vaxx are unacceptably higher than the basics, that have been around for decades, we get as kids. The FDA normally wouldn’t approve such numbers unless someone was getting kick backs.

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– Heckles [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I agree with everything you said. Why is it that people assume I'm pro vaxx when I say it's not killing tens of thousands of people. Like those are the only two positions you can hold? I'm very against the vaccine and everything that's coming along with it. I also don't think it's depopulating the earth. The fact that most people here can't seem to grasp this simple distinction is frustrating.

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– Vkp23 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I see what you’re saying. And I agree. Yeah for the most part people are fine (at least for know that we know. Who knows what’s gonna happen down the line). But I get folks are tending to take some things as all or nothing when it isn’t the whole case. Like if you counted miscarriage as a death the death rate would be even higher. The problem is, they KNOW it isn’t safe enough for wide spread use but they are doing it anyway. Idk if they are trying to kill people or if it is all part of the ploy to further the covid scare. Either way, yes, the vaxx is killing folks directly or indirectly at way higher rates than is acceptable, but no, not as much as some people try to say. I think your delivery might be off is all.

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– Heckles [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

My delivery is always off because I'm an asshole.

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– Vkp23 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Omg! Lol. That is completely like my husband. Lol. Love him to death, but his delivery is always off becuse…he is an ass hole. 😂😂

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– Heckles [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Completely agree with you.

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– Mr_A 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There are different modalities, different brands, different lot numbers within brands ... it's hard to make any categorical statement without getting definitions. Although I've heard doctors taking about how bad the vax is, I haven't heard anyone call out a specific vaccine maker, or comparing whether Moderns is more or less sinister than Pfizer or Astra Zenica.

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– Hemanbattlecat 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Long term. Not everything causes a human instant death.

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– Cheesemaker 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

How is that proof they are safe?

This is all short term side effects. If you eat a burger every day for a year, you increase your chance of heart disease, but few people are going to have a heart attack the day after they eat their 365th burger.

The fact that in this data the Cardiac arrest is four times is deeply concerning. Given the small numbers its not conclusive evidence, but it is a gigantic red flag especially combined with all the other heart problems people are seeing following the vaccine. Most side effects don't happen overnight.

What will happen to those vaccinated people over the next ten years? If you say nothing, you're full of shit because the fact is, no one knows since they haven't studied it.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Right, nobody knows! So how on earth can you be so confident they are going to die? You can't. You have no idea. Yet half this site acts like people taking the vaxx are dead men walking, and it's absurd.

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– JonathanE 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Plenty of well respected virologists have made claims that these 'vaccines' are doing harm.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And ten times more have said they are fine and everyone should get them. Why on earth would I care what 'the experts' have to say. Plus, I know they are doing harm. They just aren't killing people in the ridiculous numbers that some people seem to think they are.

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– Lapstrake 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Chances of death from the vaccine are about 1 in 19,000 in the short term.

Chances of a bad reaction from the vaccine are about 1 in 500, with many of the bad reactions resulting in serious health problems.

That is completely consistent with these results.

If they administered 21,926 real jabs, you can expect 0, 1 or 2 deaths likely.


Science:

0.2% of people in Europe who got the jab had an adverse reaction reported.

https://files.catbox.moe/52jou2.png

0.2% = 1 in 500

of those 0.2%, 2.64% died.

0.0264 * .002 = 0.0000528 = 0.00528% = 1 in 18,939

Source:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/attachment/18081-suspected-cardiovascular-side-effects-of-two-covid-19-vaccines-010821-pdf/

Kids have a 1/2,500,000 chance of dying if they catch covid-19

From the table below, a 15 year old male in a High Income Country (HIC) without co-morbitities has a 0.00004% chance of dying if they catch the Wuhan virus.

0.00004% means a 1 in 2,500,000 chance.

The values in the table are in percent, as evidenced by the fact that if you are 80+ years and old and unhealthy, the number is 20.08

https://files.catbox.moe/o5wl1i.png

Source:

https://www.cgdev.org/sites/default/files/predicted-covid-19-fatality-rates-based-age-sex-comorbidities-and-health-system-capacity.pdf

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– Heckles [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So how on Earth is 1 in 19,000 a depopulation killshot? This just backs my statement up. Killing one of every 19k people isn't some globalist depopulation plan. It wouldn't even be noticed by the vast majority of people.

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– Lapstrake 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

It will injure and kill a lot of people who had basically zero risk from the Wuhan virus.

The deal being offered to the people is to trade their risk from the virus for the risk from the vaccine.

For most Americans, it is a very bad deal, since almost all of them will be taking on a bigger risk from the vaccine than they had from the virus.

And now we find out that the vaccine is ineffective against the Delta variant.

And they still have the risk from the virus, after having already spun the roulette wheel by getting the jab.

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– Lapstrake 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I didn't say anything about the vaccine being a depopulation killshot. You must be thinking of somebody else.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well that's what I'm arguing about. I'm not telling you it's a good thing or to go get it. Just telling the goons who think it's Bill Gates trying to kill the world that they've been fooled.

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– Lapstrake 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Obviously the elites are very unhappy with 7.7 billion 'useless eaters' on the planet, and Bill gates is one of them.

They believe that 0.5 Billion is the right amount of people necessary to serve them. You know, make food and wine, build their yachts and supercars, maintain the roads and airports etc.

But they are very long-term planners. They aren't going to kill 70% of the world population in a few years because that would be suicidal.

You'd be killing off all the sheep that believe in the propaganda and leaving all the pissed off wolves. And society would break down, and it is only society that protects them. In a Mad Max world, there is no place for them to spend their gorgillion dollars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

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– HenryTheRed 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Death vs Death is probably a good study number. I mean why would you use something like % of death jab vs % of Placebo and show:

Rate of death for larger groups: 100, or 10k people. Need 3, 6, 9 months numbers to compare also. I would want to see the rate of infection in group A vs B, and the average rate of death.

This is just a chart of how people died, with 3 listings for covid-19 when the tests CANNOT ISOLATE COVID-19 FROM CORONA.

I would assume anyone dead in the Placebo group had co-morbidities to go along with it.

There is more cardiac arrest in the chart which is the death jab signal. Also, love the spike in SEPSIS over the placebo group.

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– HenryTheRed 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We need to be getting blood tests for the jabies. Look for blood clots/clumping in the death jab peps.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8UPrRYIiABl3/

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– Heckles [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If you want to say it'll kill people at some nebulous time in the futute, fine. I can't argue with attempted prophecy. I'm just showing you the data, as it currently stands, does not support the killshot theory.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"Buh buh buh muh VAERS!"

VAERS is not a list of deaths from the vaccine, it's a list of deaths WITH the vaccine. You know, like how the CDC counted every covid positive death as a Covid death to make the populace afraid of a virus that isn't dangerous? That's exactly what is happening with VAERS right now on our side.

I thought we were better than the covidiots, but we aren't. We're still completely susceptible to fear mongering propaganda, just like those we like to mock.

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– shbuc73 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

So are you getting or have you got the shot?

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Never have and never will be vaccinated for anything. It's possible to be against vaccines, but also not think they are a depopulation agent you realize?

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I guarantee you are more vaccinated than I am.

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– shbuc73 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Is that right? How so?

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I've never taken any vaccine ever.

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– kosher 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well that is not the case as the VAERS data is underreported. So it's not like the situation of covid deaths where they are overreported. Let me know if you want the studies that indicate this. There is also plenty of anecdotal evidence of taking healthy people with no comorbidities that heave extremely bad health effects like cardiac arrest and neurological problems. There was a doctor in my local hospital that tested his blood a week after the vaccine and realized he was spike protein poisoned after losing 1/4 of his haemoglobin.

It's also not just fear mongering as there is hope as well. Many of us figured out that therapeutics route is the best way to proceed. There is plenty of data that indicate zinc ionophores is the way to treat the virus, but somehow the science and health community is trying to prohibit dispensing drugs that have been deemed safe for decades.

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– Heckles [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Don't miscontrue me not believing it's a killshot with me telling you to take it. Of course therapeutics are a far superior way of treating covid.

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