I'm the lone wolf here at work and they had hoped I would go on my own to get the vaccine as they would "hate to lose me".
It's now come to the follow up of" have you given any consideration to being vaccinated". To which I replied yes I have, and I'm unwilling based on
A} it's simply not needed B} it's a danger to my personal being C} it's ineffective against the current strain{threw that in there because they believe in all of that stuff, I don't} D}. It will never end. Each strain you'll ask me to get the shot, then the booster, then the shot for the new strain. E} I already had the virus and can take the antibody test to prove it.
Now I'm being asked to meet with the head guys secretary which I'm sure will be for show. I've never met him, and he's a lawyer. But I need a few things from you guys
Vaers data showing the adverse effects Natural immunity vs vaccine The EUA document stating Cormidity is not available currently and the only vaccines available now are under EUA only, er go thru can't force me to take it.
I'm currently at work and I don't have a lot of time to find the stuff so I appreciate any help
First off, the burden of proof is NOT on you. They are demanding that you undergo a medical treatment, so the burden of proof is on THEM.
Second, you are being coerced into undertaking a medical treatment against your will. This is coersion. It is a crime. It is probably a felony under state law, and Conspiracy Against Rights is a felony under federal law (18 USC 241). They are engaging in a CRIME by coercing you to take a medical treatment against your will. And the attorney is NOT immune from prison over this issue.
Third, it is their responsibility to FULLY INFORM YOU of ALL the potential adverse consequences (which they cannot or will not do). Put the burden on THEM.
Fourth, I would not outright refuse. I would tell them that they have a legal responsibility to (a) not engage in the criminal act of coersion, and (b) fully inform me so that I can make an informed decision as to my medical treatment.
Fifth, I would also ask them to provide documentation to prove that taking a vaxx is in anyway necessary or even helpful with regard to employment. I would want to see written documentation regarding the vaxx and spread of the coof (hint: there isn't any -- but I would NOT tell them that; I would let them squirm). The only thing they could come up with would be some CDC/NIH "guideline," and that is based on fraud. I would then show them counter-data which proves that the CDC/NIH information is fraudulent.
The fact that they are doing this is a good indication they do NOT want to fire you because they know there could be serious legal and financial harm to themselves if they do. Hold out and make them fire you or drop it. Hell, even if they drop it at this point, I would consider a later lawsuit for coersion and hostile work envrionment.
You should read Professor Clements' letter to NMSU (he is the professor from the Lindall Election Fraud Symposium). His letter highlights the important legal issues that he is telling NMSU they must address if they want him to mask up or vaxx up or fire him over these issues:
https://www.scribd.com/document/525426410/New-Mexico-State-University-professor-responds-to-COVID-restrictions-possible-punishment#download
He brings up some legal issues that nobody else is really talking about:
YOU are in the driver's seat here, NOT them. They do not what you to KNOW that.
Also, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!
ALL communication should be in WRITING and NOT verbal. If verbal is required, then bring a recording device and MAKE SURE THEY KNOW YOU ARE RECORDING THEM. You want the conversation ON THE RECORD. They will NOT like that, but who cares what they like? You will be implying (WITHOUT SAYING IT) that you are building a case for a lawsuit against them (whether you actually are or not), and THAT will make them think twice about what they choose to do. (BTW -- if you bring a recording device, make sure that at the beginning of the conversation you say something like, "I have this recorder here because I want to make sure we have a record of our conversation, so that there are no misunderstandings of what was said in the future." You are being nice about it, but the real reason for this is so they can't later claim they didn't know you were secretly recording -- make sure it would be clear to others that everybody knew the conversation was being recorded).
Thanks
I'm not caving
What this guy said. I'd do this!
I would hammer point A the hardest. Fuck all this data and studies bullshit, it's not even needed. How about these branch covidians actually observe the REAL WORLD first. Peel their fucking eyelids open.
Where are the dead??? If the vaccine was necessary you wouldn't have to coerce ANYONE into getting it, people would literally be killing each other to get their hands on it. You wouldn't even be having this conversation at work because most of your office or you or your boss would be dead.
Ask your boss if the company has experienced ANY disruptions or difficulties due to employees ACTUALLY DYING to this "deadly virus".
I'm in the Federal Government and they are accepting medical / religious exceptions. Would it be prudent to mention any of the above or should I just stick strictly to religious grounds?
Just depends on your personal preference. If you want the simple way and they are doing the religious exemption easily, that might be the way to go.
But you can also play hardball. It is very likely you will have to play hardball, sooner or later, even if they "grant" the "exemption."
In reality, the burden of proof is on THEM, and they are committing multiple CRIMES in their effort.
Up to you how to play it.
Upvote for such great info. Stay on script so as to not give them ammo.
If I could upvote you multiple times I would - excellent info. Saved my side - nothing surprises me about my work either. Thankyou
Stick with 3 prong approach. Tell them that to take a vaccine, they must be shown to be:
Necessary (They have to show that no alternatives exists)
Safe (They have to show short and long term side effects.)
Effective (They have to show that it is effective in catching and spreading covid).
You can come up with at least 5-10 points for each of these items. Let me know if you need help.
Here is a link I shared on another post that is the FDA's Cominarty approval letter for GERMANY, not the US: https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download
From one of the FDA panelists. Lots of nuggets in there.
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zMwr5G0G/steve-kirsch-the-world-is-about-/c/
Please let us know how you get on. Give em hell. There is some serious excellent info. Time to enjoy yourself with it. Like another fren says "they don't know what you know".
I won't say good luck I say verbally kick em where it hurts, then when they are on the floor - kick them again on behalf of every other pede who is in this position.
Pureblood
Thanks.
Looking like next Wednesday.
I'll check back in
This is the lawsuit filed against the forced vax. You might find some good material in it. It covers Comirnaty https://0f044bf8-7310-46cd-941f-6f75a8a67eb4.filesusr.com/ugd/ed2899_ccd16ec4e92d46edb645cec8e3858353.pdf
If you search my name, I posted 15 pages of questions they won't be able to answer.
Another useful post >
Fuck that. Ask them the tough questions force them to respond for their invalid actions.
Here is a post with a lot of information regarding Comirnaty https://greatawakening.win/p/13zMsG6Giy/help-can-someone-please-send-me-/
You might find this one, single document to be most useful, fren. I just found it here earlier today. It pretty much says it all:
https://www.docdroid.net/z3E19up/covid-19-the-spartacus-letter-pdf#page=8
I am becoming aware that there are SO many people just waiting for "someone else" to stand up.
"Someone else" to present the evidence so this can all go away.
It may be that some of your higher ups at work are not jabbed.
You may have to be the "someone else" to get the ball rolling.
Please add F) the current jabs are for prior strains no longer in circulation so.......why?
Good luck fren, I am the "lone wolf" where I work.
if you havent started now would be a good time to look for work
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.15.21262067v3.full-text
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z_reference.pdf
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210917/What-pushed-Israel-out-of-herd-immunity.aspx
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8167834/
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965703047/vaccines-could-drive-the-evolution-of-more-covid-19-mutants
https://www.science.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/352837543_Analysis_of_COVID-19_vaccine_death_reports_from_the_Vaccine_Adverse_Events_Reporting_System_VAERS_Database_Interim_Results_and_Analysis
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/stabilising-the-code
I am not a lawyer, and probably you should engage with HR as little as possible without a lawyer present, and/or ask a lawyer. I'm not aware of a legal situation currently where "convince us you're right" should be a requirement to keep your job.
However, if I were nevertheless to attempt to persuade a normie in person, I'd show them the "All Deaths Reported to VAERS By Year" graph on the "OpenVAERS site. We can quibble about self-reporting, historic underreporting, overreporting or duplicates, report backlogs, whether the number is 5000 or 15000 or 45000, but that crazy straight-up vertical line should give anyone pause. Then ease into MSM reports about myocarditis, thrombocytopenia, irregular menstruation, Israeli efficacy data, vaccinated spreader events, etc.