Yeah, he kicked back to people from his home town, for the benefit of them and himself. Sure it was crooked, but it wasn't nearly as bad as what most do in Congress currently.
Then of course, as he polled well as a 3rd party, the DS feared him, and he died in a tractor "accident" on his farm.
Jim was a family friend, and was far from a bad guy. Would still be hugely popular here. Met him a few times, would've loved to hear his opinion on Trump. He had no friends in D.C, much like 45 himself.
Sorry for your loss. I just looked up his 'crimes' "forcing staff to do chores" Um aren't staff suppose to do chores??? Sounds a little made up, imho Sounds more like they needed to get rid of him. He probably didn't want to play ball with the swamp & didn't quite know how vast they are.
I guess Trump was clever to sorta play along in a sense or at least keep their secrets to himself, until it was time to strike. He was also a little immune, they stayed in his buildings so they had to butter up to him. I guess that gave him the card to play....
A lot of it was really silly, stupid crimes that would easily be looked over if it was someone who was playing their games in DC. He made staff tend to his farm instead of working in office, which was the least of it. Then he had an attorney from the Youngstown area working for him in D.C, but had him essentially write off the rent that Trafficant was paying him for an office in Youngstown as a way to say thank you for getting him the D.C job.
Worst of it was trying to score a contract for a Youngstown company that was making some sort of laser device to help planes land safely in exchange for paying off the debt on his boat. Obviously not a good look, but the thing that most people overlook is that Trafficant was actually doing things that would've been huge for the place he represented in Congress. He also was a part of getting the federal funding done for a lot of the highways in the Youngstown area that are widely used today for freight transport like the 711 connector and things like that
The people that he kicked back to would've very likely done those things for free, mind you. Jim was very well liked here.
I saw him talking once on CSpan when i was a kid and i loved him and modelled rhetoric from him and thought "why isn't this guy president?" They killed him? Bummer
He kept fucking with the establishment after they'd given him a warning shot with the 8 years in prison. Ran against Tim Ryan whose probably being groomed as a Democrat presidential candidate, and won 16 percent of the vote as a 3rd party
He was guilty of poking the bear. The story never added up. Dude owned that farm for ages, had no problems, and then his tractor tips over on him. Never sat right with people around here
Media always smeared him in a similar fashion to DJT. "He's a mobster from Youngstown, he says outlandish things, his hair is a mess". He could've definitely had a resurgence in a Trump government. The only curiosity in my mind is whether it was a mob hit or a DS one
Thanks for the tip. I looked up an old interview & he was on fire - with the truth that no one says. He would have been right besides Trump & is probably looking down at him from heaven with a big smile
Exactly how I felt. I have no stomach anymore for their crap. I know everything I need to know by now, and I am only interested in that axe falling and finishing them off. In order for me to keep watching this kind of bullshit, I need to force myself to a) believe these people are not utter morons, or b) pretend like they are not so fucking obviously evil to treat everybody who is watching it, like utter morons. God bless all of you who can still stomach this...
Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich
Phoenix Office
2005 N Central Ave
Phoenix, AZ 85004-2926
(602) 542-5025
Fax (602) 542-4085
Tucson Office
400 West Congress
South Building, Suite 315
Tucson, AZ 85701-1367
(520) 628-6504
Fax (520) 628-6530
Prescott Office
1000 Ainsworth Dr.
Suite A-210
Prescott, AZ 86305-1610
(928) 778-1265
Fax: (928) 778-1298
I can't believe they are calling him to testify.... if their goal is to cover up the audit and not let it go public, this doesn't seem like a very good move. Shiva is going to destroy them.
Looks like the Arizona Audit took a real hit in that committee! Made it look like the Cyber Ninjas were fools and stupid! How is anyone going to prove the Election was fraudulent when you have Dem committees like that getting involved?
The biggest Part of the fraud happened by many of the people on that committee. They all knew about it and that's how most of them get their place in the House of Representatives to begin with. It was a joke all part of the movie.
Logan’s unwillingness to testify comes after he and his company repeatedly refused to produce** documents sought by the Oversight Committee**, which is controlled by the Democratic majority in the House, as part of its investigation into the Arizona election review.
So to recap, big habbening gets turned into shitshow. Key players don't show up. Yes man confirms what the dems wanted to hear and now they have soundbites.
Wendy still doing her thing. AZ AG probably not doing anything.
I believe Dr. Shiva has been replaced and will not be testifying today.
https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2021/10/07/cyber-ninjas-ceo-refuses-to-testify-at-congressional-hearing-on-arizona-audit/
What a disgusting article. Yikes. Thanks for sharing it all the same.
Archive link for those in Europe
Why was he replaced????
Probably because he is too smart and well-spoken for them and they didn't know until last minute.
Mr. Biggs just called him out on his bullshit. I’m ready for dr. Shiva to rip these faggots apart
And if I remember right, Jim Trafficant did some jail time for being a crook.
Yeah, he kicked back to people from his home town, for the benefit of them and himself. Sure it was crooked, but it wasn't nearly as bad as what most do in Congress currently.
Then of course, as he polled well as a 3rd party, the DS feared him, and he died in a tractor "accident" on his farm.
Jim was a family friend, and was far from a bad guy. Would still be hugely popular here. Met him a few times, would've loved to hear his opinion on Trump. He had no friends in D.C, much like 45 himself.
Sorry for your loss. I just looked up his 'crimes' "forcing staff to do chores" Um aren't staff suppose to do chores??? Sounds a little made up, imho Sounds more like they needed to get rid of him. He probably didn't want to play ball with the swamp & didn't quite know how vast they are.
I guess Trump was clever to sorta play along in a sense or at least keep their secrets to himself, until it was time to strike. He was also a little immune, they stayed in his buildings so they had to butter up to him. I guess that gave him the card to play....
A lot of it was really silly, stupid crimes that would easily be looked over if it was someone who was playing their games in DC. He made staff tend to his farm instead of working in office, which was the least of it. Then he had an attorney from the Youngstown area working for him in D.C, but had him essentially write off the rent that Trafficant was paying him for an office in Youngstown as a way to say thank you for getting him the D.C job.
Worst of it was trying to score a contract for a Youngstown company that was making some sort of laser device to help planes land safely in exchange for paying off the debt on his boat. Obviously not a good look, but the thing that most people overlook is that Trafficant was actually doing things that would've been huge for the place he represented in Congress. He also was a part of getting the federal funding done for a lot of the highways in the Youngstown area that are widely used today for freight transport like the 711 connector and things like that
The people that he kicked back to would've very likely done those things for free, mind you. Jim was very well liked here.
I saw him talking once on CSpan when i was a kid and i loved him and modelled rhetoric from him and thought "why isn't this guy president?" They killed him? Bummer
He kept fucking with the establishment after they'd given him a warning shot with the 8 years in prison. Ran against Tim Ryan whose probably being groomed as a Democrat presidential candidate, and won 16 percent of the vote as a 3rd party
He was guilty of poking the bear. The story never added up. Dude owned that farm for ages, had no problems, and then his tractor tips over on him. Never sat right with people around here
Media always smeared him in a similar fashion to DJT. "He's a mobster from Youngstown, he says outlandish things, his hair is a mess". He could've definitely had a resurgence in a Trump government. The only curiosity in my mind is whether it was a mob hit or a DS one
I thought the mob and cabal each absorbed the other in the 40s and they go on 69ing to this day.
And that crazy hair too...
Quite a few similarities those two...
Jim Trafficant.... Dang I miss that guy.... They don't make them like him anymore for sure!!!
He had me rolling in almost every interview he did....
And ALWAYS laid it out exactly like it was...
Thanks for the tip. I looked up an old interview & he was on fire - with the truth that no one says. He would have been right besides Trump & is probably looking down at him from heaven with a big smile
DAMN IT Absolutely nothing happened. Noone even showed. Why?
After watching 10 minutes of this Democrat run hit piece of an investigation I got better things to do than watch this garbage.
Exactly how I felt. I have no stomach anymore for their crap. I know everything I need to know by now, and I am only interested in that axe falling and finishing them off. In order for me to keep watching this kind of bullshit, I need to force myself to a) believe these people are not utter morons, or b) pretend like they are not so fucking obviously evil to treat everybody who is watching it, like utter morons. God bless all of you who can still stomach this...
Didn't he get pulled off and replaced with Bennett?
Just confirmed on the witnesses swearing in
Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich Phoenix Office 2005 N Central Ave Phoenix, AZ 85004-2926 (602) 542-5025 Fax (602) 542-4085 Tucson Office 400 West Congress South Building, Suite 315 Tucson, AZ 85701-1367 (520) 628-6504 Fax (520) 628-6530 Prescott Office 1000 Ainsworth Dr. Suite A-210 Prescott, AZ 86305-1610 (928) 778-1265 Fax: (928) 778-1298
He is playing his part, of not doing anything about it.
Wendy Rogers tipped me off when she echoed Trump’s words of, “he needs to do the right thing.”
I like how these people are upset about threats. You stole the election. The people are mad. All you had to do was not be a traitor.
I can't believe they are calling him to testify.... if their goal is to cover up the audit and not let it go public, this doesn't seem like a very good move. Shiva is going to destroy them.
Unfortunately, Dr. Shiva is not speaking today
What right does the corrupt house oversight have to call these hearings? Mostly done when someone is being grilled for wrongdoing. I don't like it
There was one word in particular that I did not hear mentioned at all in today's hearing... 'Adjudication.'
Very telling.
Looks like the Arizona Audit took a real hit in that committee! Made it look like the Cyber Ninjas were fools and stupid! How is anyone going to prove the Election was fraudulent when you have Dem committees like that getting involved?
Military is the only way.
The biggest Part of the fraud happened by many of the people on that committee. They all knew about it and that's how most of them get their place in the House of Representatives to begin with. It was a joke all part of the movie.
Nothing good usually comes from that: search for:
"sought by the Oversight Committee" -ninjas
for context and a good refresher.
What a f’ing movie. I’m so sick of this BS.
Keeping you complacent…
Well, nothing can stop what is coming but goddamn it I’m ready for it to happen NOW! Sick of the clown show!
and you trust him?
What happened???
So to recap, big habbening gets turned into shitshow. Key players don't show up. Yes man confirms what the dems wanted to hear and now they have soundbites.
Wendy still doing her thing. AZ AG probably not doing anything.
Off to bed then.
Yes this was a propaganda dumpster fire