Dr.Shiva did a live about 6 hours ago( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_hiFndi-4U). I highly recommend watching it for yourselves. After watching it, I think we need to address the elephant in the room. Are the people we are looking up to actually on our side? Or is this just their way of getting money out of us until we're broke?
I think it's safe to say that help is never going to come from the top down. If all these people were about election integrity, all of this would of been over by now. The same thing goes with this fake pandemic. If our "representatives" wanted this pandemic over, that Joe Rogan clip exposing Ivermectin would be on the news 24 hours a day.
I don't want this to come off as some kind of doom and gloom post. I love Trump just as much as anyone here, but we need to have this discussion and we need to ask this very serious question. What if we are being used here? What if we are the hamster on the treadmill trying to get the carrot that just always seems to be out of reach? What if we are just a bunch of book, hat, & T-shirt sales?
I can't be the only one that notices that the can is being kicked down the road every 30 days. If it's not some judge dismissing a case, it's a letter being written to someone that won't bother to read it, etc. Something isn't adding up here guys, and I hope I'm not the only one that has noticed. Dr. Shiva said something that stood out to me in his live stream. He said people like Dr. Martin Luther King, and Ghandi were placed to control the masses. Ghandi took the British system and just handed it over to the Indian government. The people were still slaves, just under new management and so on.
I don't know, I feel like I'm ranting so I'll cut this short. It feels like nothing is really being done, every "victory" doesn't seem like a step forward in any way. I know someone will say "Well why don't you do something?" To tell you the truth I ask myself that everyday, but what can I do? I don't have money or influence to fight a corrupt government, and even if I did, I wouldn't know where to begin. Dr. Shiva mentioned a class that he was teaching on Mondays. I think I'm going to start there. Let me know what you guys think. I'm really curious to know how you all feel about what is going on.
Its all about timing. If they wanted to catch the election fraudsters and reinstate Trump, they could have done it on Nov 4th. They could have done it anyday.
It was not the Election fraud that they were catching redhanded. That was incidental. They are trying to catch the Globalists as they are about to do the Great Reset. Thats the real crime and thats what everyone in the world needs to wake up to.
That happens when the Cabal pulls the trigger, and the white hats can just control the demolition, make sure after the Rest instead of [them] getting control its us who get the control etc. They can hurry the plan along but in the end the Cabal has to pull the switch.
Until then, everything is in a holding pattern - the Audit, the Maxwell case, the Assange case, the Chinese housing bubble, the Debt ceiling, the MOASS - everything is in a holding pattern until the enemy pulls the trigger.
So you are right, it feels like they are kicking the can every couple weeks because everything has to align at the right timing. This is NOT just about the election fraud.
So much of this explanation still doesn’t make sense. Trump and the military should have all evidence by now for all the bad actors. There is no discernible reason to allow our country to fall into chaos and letting the good people suffer. The vaxxed are doing just fine, so how will this wake any of them up, and in the end....who cares?? It’s wayyyy past time to take action.
it makes complete sense. if the people dont feel the pain they will never change. this is about saving humanity for good
You missed what I wrote. The vaxxed are perfectly fine and happy. The wrong people are feeling the pain, we are feeling the pain. But we voted for Trump and it was stolen from us. So how is making his own voters suffer going to change the minds of the other side who love what’s going on. That’s like giving a kid candy when they steal.
when they find out they were lied to by celebrities/the media etc and have actually taken a dangerous experimental drug i think they're gonna feel that pain
You’re still not explaining the trigger point, what you describe is after the big reveal is made. What I’m asking is why are we holding on pulling the trigger?
Because that's the whole idea. Two more weeks! Like when I was a kid on a car trip. It was always 5 more minutes when I asked how much longer. The difference, we actually arrived eventually. Pacifier.
make sure after the Reset instead of [them] getting control it's us who get the control
imo it's up to the retards to figure it out. if we "pull the trigger" and tell them how it is they'll just reject it. if they feel like they worked it out for themselves it'll have a better effect
Bubble_bursts explanation is that the white hats plan is to NOT pull the trigger. They have set up the cabal for failure when the cabal pulls the trigger on the great reset. I don't know what that specific trigger is though. Complete economic collapse? We may be suffering more than the vaxxed as you said, but if the great reset gets triggered, everyone will suffer
This exactly, I believe my Libtardian relatives (we don’t discuss anymore to volitive to discuss) still won’t see the truth of their choices, they are brainwashed.
Humility is lacking these days. People, especially young people HATE being wrong.
This isn't just about saving the US -- it's about saving the world....and the world is a very big place. There are a lot of dominoes that have to be lined up before you knock the first one over.
Here is a more elaborate version of my thinking: https://greatawakening.win/p/13zgNlTFzF/x/c/4JFpok7xJw0
Hope it helps you fren.
Mmmmmmmm love me some MOASS
Agreed, bringing down the cabal is the true goal. Recognizing the valid results of 2020 is actually secondary. But for us the return of our rightful and duly elected President and Commander in Chief is a major indicator we have been successful.
Seems like the trigger got pulled on mass depopulation event.
If that were true, the virus would have had 20% death rate and the jab would have killed half the people who took it in less than 6 months.
Yes, it is safe and effective.
No, but its not a death jab. Its an experimental jab for their long term depop goals, the technology of which they needed another 10 years to perfect. But because of operation warpspeed, they were able to pump it out and test it right away. So it probably has elements of the future tech, but not everything. So while death is a side effect, its not the main intended effects. Thats why so many people with the jabs are still walking around apparently safe, and I believe after everything is done, these people can be cured.
Between the jab and the ventilators of death, a lot of good folks have died. I hope these vaxxed people can be cured as well.
I think that these folks who have gotten the jab are going to experience something within the next 12 months. Many posts on here of 'relatives of friends' or MILs getting recurrence of cancer, new instances of heart issues, enlarged prostates, heavy periods, etc. If you read some of the in-depth articles, the spike protein is not an instant death sentence, but it affects blood vessel linings (creating inflammation), creates new blood clotting, also interferes with the natural apoptosis (natural killing and disposal of malformed cells/cancer) that the body was designed to perform. The people who have died within a few days of the shot, I would assume, have had undiagnosed comorbidities and were just inches from being pushed over 'the edge' due to existing damage of their current health conditions, or else had some type of allergic reaction to the contents of the shot.
Bring the whole diseased corrupt temple down forever
It would generally be easier to bring down the cabal if the white hats had major political power.
The world has always run by the shadow governments. Now the white hats are the shadow govt.
i think its good to question everything ....thats how we grow
The first American Revolution was fought from April 19, 1775 to September 3, 1783. Eight bloody years.... and that does not include the time leading up to it, when the Colonies were getting fed up with England's taxes and trade restrictions.
I think for the Second American Revolution (for want of a better term) is right now in the Awakening and "getting fed up" stage. Perhaps "the military is the only way," but I do believe patriots will be called on to do their part.
Get right with God, get fit and in good shape, prepare your mind-body-soul for conflict with the demons of darkness, and store up stuff you will need in case it all goes south and everything crashes. Find out who your neighbors truly are and who you can trust in coming days. Be prepared to lose friends.... I think many of us here already have. I have lost three friends over the current fake "crisis" but I'm willing to let them go, knowing what I know now.
Hang in there. I don't know what's going to happen or when it's going to happen, but I know that the path America is on right now is completely unsustainable.
You will be forever frustrated and upset if you believe that a magical day will arrive where some audit results will be announced and then everybody will know that the election 2020 was a fraud, and you will be resplendent in the glory of total vindication.
Q's first post was designed to grab attention, and scare the hell out of the enemy. That has always been what Q and Q+ have done. Release pics that show that the white hats know what the Deep State is up to, and how they operate. Unleash the army of autists to independently create research that exposes them. Threaten DECLAS ever 5 minutes until they are tearing their hair out.
How many times did they concoct schemes to combat DECLAS that were never used? How much money did they spend to steal the election, and then to try and contain the mountains of evidence of massive voter fraud?
The same thing is being done here. The purpose behind 'kicking the can down the road' is not to demoralize you. It isn't about you. It is about wearing the enemy down, and they try to prepare for a fight that doesn't materialize, over and over and over again.
The Deep State is defending against election audits, a mentally incompetent President, a disaster at the border, a broken budget, a vaccine that is proving to be deadly and 100% ineffective, critical race theory, men playing sports on women's teams, rampant inflation, empty shelves at the stores.
Washington DC, Incorporated has been handed all the power, and with that goes all the responsibility for all of this. It will be easy to get the normies attention when they are pissed off at who is running the show.
It is how you win against the entrenched Deep State without a civil war. We are forcing them on defense on all fronts, threatening them at every point.
But what happened to the Rand Pauls (I'm going to go state by state and encourage election reform), Jim Jordan, Ted Cruz and all of the others who were going all in (right after November, during the tallying) to fight this fraud. Other than the crazy infrastructure plan that Biden was trying to pass by us, there's not a whole lot of other huge issues taking up their time.
I have always been suspicious of all the interest in discussing the election fraud, before the "insurrection", and then, afterwards, they just quickly accepted the elector totals. I am not aware of ANY of those who were supposedly upset about the vote fraud, continuing with their "outrage" after the "insurrection". It was almost like they either knew it was going to happen, so that they would have an excuse NOT to continue with their protest of the election, or just went "whew, now I don't have to go through with the bogus hearings on election fraud to appease the conservative sheep I control".
God wins.
I take that position, if you read revelation the world goes very dark quickly.
I think we will be saved by Christ
I agree with what you have said 100%. How do you reverse the corruption that is top to bottom? How do you deport millions of illegals. Yes, there seem to be answers in that can that is constantly being kicked down the road but how much crime, for how long can be committed with no consequences?. Oh, there are arrests...a little bit here, a little bit there...but it is a drop in the bucket compared to the evil and corruption that we are experiencing in every nook and cranny of our lives. We are resisting and fighting back but is it too little too late? We all are being weakened mentally and physically by poisons, stress, illness, corruption...in every physical and psychological way possible.
I know FOR SURE that Christ will come for His church and that there will be a terrible tribulation and a glorious millineum. Beyond that reality may be a movie, or a psyop or who knows what. Even if every evil, corrupt person was arrested today there are MANY problems that would need to be overcome...the first being fair elections. I just have to trust in a God who will never leave me nor forsake me.
"Many things about tomorrow I don't seem to understand.
But I KNOW who holds tomorrow and I KNOW who holds my hand."
As we do not know if Trump is going to save us, we need to live both as if he is and as if he isn’t. Devote time and action according possibilities according to you individual judgment.
Gotta Trust the Plan baaaby...Trump say's you'll be happy in the end! The other side knows what happens when they lose. I am willing to put up with this until every last guilty Dem and Rino is exposed.
“I don’t want to sound like I’m dooming…”
These posts keep popping up. Self-indulgent, doomy, “are patriots REALLY in control?” type posts that are framed as innocently posing questions or just “talking the hard truths” here.
This shit is hard. It’s good vs. evil. EVERYONE has something on the line. It’s war. You don’t get scheduled wins. It’s going to be difficult and sometimes it’s going to feel like losing.
But I am getting sick of this easy tactic shills have found on this board to “just ask questions” that focus on why everything feels like a loss. There are wins out there happening all the time. You have to look for them.
Only times I see people start to panic is when they listened or watched more propaganda. And whose fault is that?
Another tactic is to dismiss wins as too little too late, or not enough. There is a user I see pop up whenever DeSantis does something good, who derides the accomplishments as ineffective.
I’m all for helping new people get folded into the dialogue here, and want to have a community that has discussion. But we need to be more vigilant and crack down on these doomy posts that have a thin layer of “just being honest/swear I’m not dooming” paint.
Then why waste your time replying? This is what I don't get about you guys that don't want any kind of discussion. As much as you don't want negative posts or questions that challenge your believes, the fact of the matter is they will pop up, so why not have the discussion instead of trying to shoot it down? Is it because you believe 1000% that everything is fine or because you are noticing things that aren't making much sense?
You should ask that question on the Donald......
Or are you choosing to ignore Q and the QRB in your consideration?
WWG1WGA
I did ask this question on the Donald as well. To my surprise I've gotten almost no feedback from them. No I'm not ignoring Q at all, but I don't want to ignore the fact we will have a lot of pretenders throughout this ordeal.
I agree with bubble_bursts comment here about the timing. However, one philosophy I have always held on about anything is that there are always things under the surface we don't understand about everything and that is why we should challenge things.
This has gotten me some flames before on here because it challenges "the plan". I trust the plan, but I'm not sold on the idea that this has to be fixed before election 2022. I think it will, but I also think there's a small chance we may have to fight like he'll in 2022 as part of the plan.
What if the plan is to have an obviously rigged election that exposes everything, including rinos and SC corruption, followed by more than a year of evidence that convinces over half of likely voters (including 1/3 of Dems) that the election was rigged, not so that we can decertify and overturn the election, but so we can get even more angry and insistent when nothing happens again? How many of us will then abandon "the plan" and not fight and also abstain from voting in 2022?
I personally think it's 80% that Trump and the military will do something to rectify this before the mid-terms, but I also think somewhere in that remaining 20% is a possibility that the mid-terms may need to be a shitshow to get us to the real endgame. I'm not saying that means we should turn out the vote more than they can cheat, I'm saying when the shit hits the fan in 2022, that's when we force the hands of government and setup the endgame where the military has to step in because more than half the country will not trust the rigged election happening before their eyes.
Even of those who know 2020 was rigged, there are still those that wouldn't be able to handle the decertification and overturning of an election over a year ago. Maybe the plan is to prime and awaken people so when 2022 is being actively stolen, the military steps in on election night and starts arresting everyone? This would also be an excellent opening to reversing or redoing the 2020 election.
Either way, timing is everything. The plan should not keep us from getting involved but disillusionment shouldn't either. And I have said before, but the feds want us to start a violent revolt, but we should not take up arms in offense either. The situation we are in is because of political corruption we let take over, not through force but through our sleepiness. We have to take the offense in the same manner and subvert them and take back culture and local political offices first. Our arms are for defense when THEY make this violent and decide to come door to door.
That's my 200 cents
Fight like he will in 2022?
Who are you referring to?
I think he'll is a typo: "...fight like hell..." is likely what he meant.
I called out the constant "two weeks" nonsense weeks ago. Then the audit results came out and like an infomercial, it ends with "but wait, there's more!" And nothing happened with the results. Nothing happened. Even the people here stopped talking about it.
I also asked a few weeks ago what others were doing to take action because I want to do it too. I was immediately called a "glowie" by the dumbest people here. Not only are most here not taking action, but they don't want you to either.
Too many here are all talk and too passive. They're content with waiting for saviors to show more election audit data and will wait as many "two weeks" as they have to before they board the train to the camp.
Just like the Project Veritas Pfizer whistleblower said, exposing this to the media will bring it to light faster than bringing it to a judge or a politician. So why wait? The mainstream media will never be on board. Expose this loudly and proudly anywhere that will host it! Why not? According to many here, "the military is the only way," so who cares about timing and media channels when all that really would need to happen is get this info to the masses and the military. That can be done without politicians, judges, and without the mainstream media.
At the same time, I recognize these things: first, that the people must be pushed, and there are too many sheep still asleep. Second, this could have been done November 4, but that would only solidify President Trump as a phony and a dictator in the history books. The deep state has a plan too, and I don't think they were expecting the President to walk away. Third, some things are happening, but you need to look away from the never-ending "two weeks" of the audits. I really do think that there's something to be said for the Epstein stuff and the never-ending Durham report. Some gears have to turn before things change. I think there will be an event or two that are too big to ignore, like the Podesta 11.3 event.
Consider what the ultimate goal might be -- to awaken the masses. Look at what is happening across the globe, massive worldwide protests and resistance. I do agree with you in that I would like to see justice and those who have corrupted the system held accountable. This is a pivotal point in our human history. Interestingly, I watched a program last night that addressed three key cycles that are currently merging simultaneously: climate change (as part of normal cyclical processes that have occurred throughout the earth's history), economic change (we are in the middle of an inflation period during a 60-year cycle), and entering into a war/innovation cycle whereby human activity and thinking is heightened. This is a test of the human will and our innate desire to be free.
Stupid goal bc to be a mass means to sleep and military intelligence knows that better than anyone since they have all of the Nazis handbooks on the subject
Don't be a geoengineering-denier. Many of the extremes that we are experiencing are caused deliberately by geoengineering.
STOP COMPLYING WITH THEIR BS! Don't shop/eat ANYWHERE they tell you you have to wear a mask or be vaxxed. That's what you can do. Use what little money you do have and take it out of the system. Move your money out of the big Corp. Banks and into a local credit union that doesn't require these draconian mandates, shop local small bus. If they try ask u to wear a mask say NO, and leave but not before telling them you'll never return. Small changes like this will make a big difference if we all do our part. The problem is that people don't even want to make those small changes. We do this one bite at a time, together!!! We need to create a parallel society somehow, this is how we start...
I haven't warn a mask for more than 10 minutes in over a year. When I shop and eat out, no one asks me for a mask. I don't go to any place that tries to enforce those mandates, but one ting does bug me about this. These mandates would be dead if Ivermectine was exposed as a covid treatment. At anytime this information could be plastered all over, but no one will cover it. Not even the media that we trust.
I agree. Several people will comment that disinformation is necessary, that the white hats are on it, etc. But each passing day I feel more and more that q is a pacifier while the child rape and America rape continue unabated. Sure, someone could post about some people arrest, but that's always been going on. Unless I see em marched out together in shackles w slick willy leading the way, I'm not calling that the Plan.
I feel your pain. The only thing u can do is stay strong in your convictions and have faith that will see u thru
Well, I do admit that there seems a GROSS amount of "buy my vote fraud revealing book!" pumping. And then every (EVERY) Tom, Richard and Wally wants support of new reveals of everything the left is up to, and then every conservative politician of every ilk wishes my pocketbook turned inside out for suggested donations to their cause ($2,700 suggested and $250 minimum -or any amount- you have... Then there is every one who has a video on any platform wanting $$$ about all of the above.
IT IS GROSS!!! Rand Paul sent us a pumping $$ letter trying to get more investigative juice on Fauci. Doesn't the U.S. Government pay for congressional and senate investigations?
Robbery by pressure:
Don't let us fail!!
They're after us!!
We are the last hope for truth!!
Support us or America DIES!!
It gets tiring and boorish. It's all a guilt trip and I, for one, will not pay that fee.
Exactly this. It's aggravating to say the least. I'm sick of being pushed to buy someone's new book and I'm sick of seeing ads about buying Peter Navarro or Jack Posobiec's new books and I'm certainly tired of hearing "follow me on the gram" from Borris. It just seems like a 24/7 infomercial.
Regarding Dr. Shiva, I don’t personally trust him because he lied about inventing email. He happened to write a program that sends messages and happened to call it “email”. But it’s not the same email you and I use every day. The email we use was created by many people at ARPANET. See this summary here: https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/1999-00/internet/email.html
Dr. Shiva does not have his name on any RFCs concerning email. He has been called out on this before and only buckled down. He actually sued Techdirt over it, and lost. In my book he is inflating his credentials to get attention. This is a sign of a narcissist. A narcissist doesn’t have to necessarily get rich off the attention either to be happy. They just want to be seen and admired.
As Q said, be careful who you follow.
Thanks for your reply. I don't know about Shiva's background, and at the moment, it's not important because it doesn't take away from the fact that he has a point with the arguments he is making.
I agree with the premise of being careful of who we follow, but Shiva doesn't seem to be wrong about who we are currently looking for help from.
I do not "look up" to any Man, Woman or Person. To be honest everyone is human....can bleed, and I will make any mother fucker on this planet bleed at the snap of a finger if I had to. So nah....fuck them...I do not worship false idols.
If we were just "bunch of book, hat, & T-shirt sales", the Q garb would still be available for sale on all the big platforms.
I think we’re right on schedule and Every single one of these posts that state “I don’t want to doom but” are a fucking intentional cancer to this board. Just take this idiocy to theDonald and hang out with the rest of the doomtards.
You must be new here.
I've thought about the whole what could I do thing. And since, I will admit, I was probably not the most upstanding citizen in my younger years, my answer would be nothing. As sure as I stand here, someone would dig up some dirt on me from when I was 20yo. Or even further back like, I failed 6th grade. I could waste a bunch of money and run for office locally. But again, some asshole would remember something about me he/she didn't like and end my run for said election. That's what stops me.
then dont vote if all of us dont vote they dont have an election and fake numbers to draw on