That’s quite a story of f’d up regulations and policies of a Hospital gone mad. They fought that tooth and nail even ‘after’ he recovered with Ivermectin. Does big pharma own the hospital outright? It is acting that way.
Well,, I can confirm they are in that business and have been for decades. The longer you can keep someone in the hospital they more you can bill. An ICU stay can and does cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and the longer they keep you you're just a cash cow they milk. Doctors are cowards and won't stand up to administration. The ones who did were terminated like a ER doc friend of mine who's been an ER doc for over 35 years. He said fuck you to the jab and even with all the time in and dedication to that hospital they said you're fired! This is why they're purging good healthcare workers from doctors and nurses to techs and IT and billing people. They want a sheep class they can fully control and who won't question anything. Oh, this goes for the police too.
And not only do the hospitals milk patients legally, if my experience is any indication, they milk patients fraudulently as well. My wife had her appendix out, and I was with her the whole time (except in the operation room). I knew all the treatments she received. When the bill came, to be covered by insurance, I noticed many, many, items they included, which she didn't get. I went to the hospital to complain, and they casually corrected the bill. What this means is that they likely do this to ALL patients, but most would just let their insurance pay without question. What made me mad is when I called the insurance company to report this, they didn't care. It's all just a huge racket!
I will say a lot of the time it's because of sloppy documentation but that's no excuse! Also watch for doctors who have ZERO to do with a case visit a patient post OP. Like a podiatrist pops in to see how you're doing and how do your feet feel (feet, I had a LAP colonoscopy ) and that doc will drop a consult fee on the chart. Seriously it happens all the time and people just don't even question it! My father had a simple appendectomy and we found like 3 docs who were not affiliated with the case on his bill as consults that he never authorized to consult him! He complained and they removed the consult fees no questions asked! Hospital billing is horrible and people are getting way over charged all the time for materials that were never used specially meds!
Another common thing is for some doctor to just step inside an operating room, and then leave, and then a patient gets charged $500 or more as an "attending physician" for them. So many crooked things they do!
Yup! They do! If you're a GI doc you can walk into any room you want even if you're not the attending or consulting physician and say the patient had eye surgery which is totally unrelated to you being a GI doc and say "Hi Mr.Smith, I'm doctor Jones and was just seeing how you're doing this morning?" and say Oh I'm feeling good right now, "hows your stomach after surgery anything feel upset?" Nope! All good! "OK then Mr.Smith have a great day!" BOOM!!!! Consult fee of $55.00 dropped!
My son as a baby had surgery. The entire bill was wrong. They billed me for Baby Smith for GI doctor. My baby had a first name and did not have a GI issue. The hospital said..oh, those doctors just check up on surgery patients. Nope. Figured out the entire bill was for another child. They billed my insurance and then removed it. The next year I was reported for collections. Argued again. Bill removed. And then they did it again.
There was a company in Illinois call Medical Bill Auditors (MBA,inc) and as a small company drew a lot of “attention” in the media for correcting the $75.00 Tylenol pill charges and so forth. Back in the day the insured got 50% of the Savings up to $1000 +/-.. The Hospital Association put such pressure on this business that they ended up closing.
Then we need to gather those healthcare workers being fired by Establishment entities and form a healthcare entity that works for the good. Enterprising minds, I'm sure, can determine how to make them profit or keep them funded if non-profit.
I think that is going to be the next evolution of the healthcare industry. This all started when mega healthcare systems started buying up community hospitals in the late 90's. Now in almost all area's your choice is say 4 different hospitals but they're all owned by the SAME healthcare company so your choice of providers is a total illusion. We need to go back to the community hospital concept which created competition,better quality of care, and lower prices.
Perhaps a membership subscription service, with real benefits included besides just emergency and preventive healthcare to entice the young and healthy to join, such as the use of gyms and pools, and included or reduced price health food restaurants/shops. You would be a member of your community hospital instead of paying into health insurance. Hospitals could have sharing agreements for member care when the are not near their home hospital. It might be similar to current insurance in network and out of network costs to the patient.
I think you are right. The only thing is that I think the community hospitals were bought up in the first place because they were having trouble staying afloat on their own. Some way would have to be found to keep them funded and innovative. This would be hard to do under a public funding system as such tend to become very beaurocratic and onerous. Funding by selling shares means accountability to the shareholders who would want a return for their support, which means a way would need to be found to earn a healthy profit while maintaining integrity and service to all patients.
I totally agree. When I graduated HS in the 80's I remember the police trying to recruit people but they were not aiming for the upper or even middle of the graduating class, they were recruiting the the bottom 10%. They wanted these people. The Army and Marines did the same. They wanted drones who took orders who didn't think for themselves.
Isn't the cost of itemized small stuff like ibuprofen obscenely expensive for the amount they give you?
I had food poisoning November 2019; went to urgent care for it, then was transferred to a proper hospital for the cath lab. That alone was $25,000; the whole bill was $52,000 for less than 24 hours. Thankfully I only had to pay the $100 ambulance ride, but that still seems pretty expensive to me. I can go into more detail if anyone wants.
Thanks for posting! This article mentions 24mg for 5 days. Do you think that was because he was in such bad shape? I've heard a different dosage. How many mg have anons heard is best for a regular 5 day course?
As I understand it, it's .2 to .3 mg/kilo of body weight if it is for someone with an active case or a 12mg tab for preventative use and I think it's taken just once a week or every 5 days. Not a doctor, just what I've picked up from reading.
They are both the-earlier-the-better, HCQ isn't fast/potent enough for final stage recovery; Ivermectin seems to pull people back from the brink - although nobody should have had to go that far (or suffer at all) for this bug.
Think of it this way: HCQ is akin to getting a steroid shot to prevent, whereas Ivermectin are the heart paddles to revive if a viral or bacterial infection is not treated.
Both are excellent, but ivermectin will deliver the fastest 1-2-3 dose knockout to any and all infections, bacterial, and parasitic immediately.
Ive heard that about HCQ. Thats why the study showing HCQ didnt work was bunk. Because they only gave it to people late in the game, and gave them way too much.
Is there no fuckin Tractor Supplies in Chicago??? If that was my dad he woulda had the fuckin paste no ,matter what....O_O Fuck A Judge, and they would need alot more than a Rent A Cop to stop me from seeing my pop in the hospital.....
Yes, very true. I believe hospitals “slip in” extra charges all the time. I was physically assaulted by a patient (the family believed it was due to a medication they told the hospital not to give him). He was clearly not mentally stable, otherwise I would have sued him for assault. I was told to go to the ER as a precaution and get checked out. The NP told me I had TMJ. When I said nobody ever told me that before, she quickly moved on. Low and behold, I received a notice my insurance company paid the bill. On principle, I fought it because it should have gone to workmen’s compensation and the hospital should have paid. My insurance company was pretty much indifferent and said I should contact my employer’s business office. No one would call me back regarding why my insurance was billed. I called the Patient Advocate and played phone tag. Finally she called me back, but had no knowledge of why I called. Finally she intervened with the business office after asking, “So what do you want the bottom line to be.” (Real tactful and caring response as a patient advocate to an employee! Makes you wonder how she treats other patients or family members). I finally received a call from the business office who said there was nothing they could do since insurance already paid. I said I would let the insurance know they were committing fraud. Finally they said they would contact the insurance company. It was reversed. What I found out later was they submitted the bill to Victims of Fraud on my behalf, without my knowledge. How is that possible? I have zero clue. But clearly I was victimized again by my employer who was to damn cheap to pay the bill for a crime committed to me by a patient. By that time I was done with the entire process. I wish I had had the time to pursue it, but I knew I wouldn’t win. The hospital has every major law firm secured in Cleveland in order to insure they win and the little guy loses.
The AMA was started by the Rockefellers. Everything is owned and intertwined-Black Rock, Vanguard, AMA, AAP, banks, hospitals, insurance companies, Big Pharma, neighborhood pharmacies, Big Agriculture, Meat Packers, real estate, investment firms, Wall Street, FDA, CDC, NIH, etc., etc. Until the corruption from the top down is removed, we are owned and controlled by all of them in one way or another
A lot of good info in this article. He’s from HongKong- I sure hope he has a lot of friends and family that he can share his story with (safely) and get the word out about ivermectin.
That’s quite a story of f’d up regulations and policies of a Hospital gone mad. They fought that tooth and nail even ‘after’ he recovered with Ivermectin. Does big pharma own the hospital outright? It is acting that way.
Well,, I can confirm they are in that business and have been for decades. The longer you can keep someone in the hospital they more you can bill. An ICU stay can and does cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and the longer they keep you you're just a cash cow they milk. Doctors are cowards and won't stand up to administration. The ones who did were terminated like a ER doc friend of mine who's been an ER doc for over 35 years. He said fuck you to the jab and even with all the time in and dedication to that hospital they said you're fired! This is why they're purging good healthcare workers from doctors and nurses to techs and IT and billing people. They want a sheep class they can fully control and who won't question anything. Oh, this goes for the police too.
And not only do the hospitals milk patients legally, if my experience is any indication, they milk patients fraudulently as well. My wife had her appendix out, and I was with her the whole time (except in the operation room). I knew all the treatments she received. When the bill came, to be covered by insurance, I noticed many, many, items they included, which she didn't get. I went to the hospital to complain, and they casually corrected the bill. What this means is that they likely do this to ALL patients, but most would just let their insurance pay without question. What made me mad is when I called the insurance company to report this, they didn't care. It's all just a huge racket!
I will say a lot of the time it's because of sloppy documentation but that's no excuse! Also watch for doctors who have ZERO to do with a case visit a patient post OP. Like a podiatrist pops in to see how you're doing and how do your feet feel (feet, I had a LAP colonoscopy ) and that doc will drop a consult fee on the chart. Seriously it happens all the time and people just don't even question it! My father had a simple appendectomy and we found like 3 docs who were not affiliated with the case on his bill as consults that he never authorized to consult him! He complained and they removed the consult fees no questions asked! Hospital billing is horrible and people are getting way over charged all the time for materials that were never used specially meds!
Another common thing is for some doctor to just step inside an operating room, and then leave, and then a patient gets charged $500 or more as an "attending physician" for them. So many crooked things they do!
Yup! They do! If you're a GI doc you can walk into any room you want even if you're not the attending or consulting physician and say the patient had eye surgery which is totally unrelated to you being a GI doc and say "Hi Mr.Smith, I'm doctor Jones and was just seeing how you're doing this morning?" and say Oh I'm feeling good right now, "hows your stomach after surgery anything feel upset?" Nope! All good! "OK then Mr.Smith have a great day!" BOOM!!!! Consult fee of $55.00 dropped!
My son as a baby had surgery. The entire bill was wrong. They billed me for Baby Smith for GI doctor. My baby had a first name and did not have a GI issue. The hospital said..oh, those doctors just check up on surgery patients. Nope. Figured out the entire bill was for another child. They billed my insurance and then removed it. The next year I was reported for collections. Argued again. Bill removed. And then they did it again.
There was a company in Illinois call Medical Bill Auditors (MBA,inc) and as a small company drew a lot of “attention” in the media for correcting the $75.00 Tylenol pill charges and so forth. Back in the day the insured got 50% of the Savings up to $1000 +/-.. The Hospital Association put such pressure on this business that they ended up closing.
Then we need to gather those healthcare workers being fired by Establishment entities and form a healthcare entity that works for the good. Enterprising minds, I'm sure, can determine how to make them profit or keep them funded if non-profit.
I think that is going to be the next evolution of the healthcare industry. This all started when mega healthcare systems started buying up community hospitals in the late 90's. Now in almost all area's your choice is say 4 different hospitals but they're all owned by the SAME healthcare company so your choice of providers is a total illusion. We need to go back to the community hospital concept which created competition,better quality of care, and lower prices.
Perhaps a membership subscription service, with real benefits included besides just emergency and preventive healthcare to entice the young and healthy to join, such as the use of gyms and pools, and included or reduced price health food restaurants/shops. You would be a member of your community hospital instead of paying into health insurance. Hospitals could have sharing agreements for member care when the are not near their home hospital. It might be similar to current insurance in network and out of network costs to the patient.
I think you are right. The only thing is that I think the community hospitals were bought up in the first place because they were having trouble staying afloat on their own. Some way would have to be found to keep them funded and innovative. This would be hard to do under a public funding system as such tend to become very beaurocratic and onerous. Funding by selling shares means accountability to the shareholders who would want a return for their support, which means a way would need to be found to earn a healthy profit while maintaining integrity and service to all patients.
The police have long been compromised. Look at the bullshit they do here, nevermind the rest of the world.
I totally agree. When I graduated HS in the 80's I remember the police trying to recruit people but they were not aiming for the upper or even middle of the graduating class, they were recruiting the the bottom 10%. They wanted these people. The Army and Marines did the same. They wanted drones who took orders who didn't think for themselves.
Isn't the cost of itemized small stuff like ibuprofen obscenely expensive for the amount they give you?
I had food poisoning November 2019; went to urgent care for it, then was transferred to a proper hospital for the cath lab. That alone was $25,000; the whole bill was $52,000 for less than 24 hours. Thankfully I only had to pay the $100 ambulance ride, but that still seems pretty expensive to me. I can go into more detail if anyone wants.
Pretty sure Ivermectin in the USA is manufactured by Merck, so it's big pharma either way.
At least regular ivermectin has a good use.
Nothing. They're scum of the earth. They think their ego was harmed
I think medical doctors have the same attitude as most politicians.
Thanks for posting! This article mentions 24mg for 5 days. Do you think that was because he was in such bad shape? I've heard a different dosage. How many mg have anons heard is best for a regular 5 day course?
All too true. Yeah, I have 12mg tablets & read it was 1 per day, so we'll go with that🐸
As I understand it, it's .2 to .3 mg/kilo of body weight if it is for someone with an active case or a 12mg tab for preventative use and I think it's taken just once a week or every 5 days. Not a doctor, just what I've picked up from reading.
it's .4-.6 per kilo for an active case. Can testify that those lower amounts did not help as much with an active cold.
Thank you👌
Physician's reference guide from 2005: https://imgur.com/a/ROcD0dh
Don't mean to throw out 'biblical' in a carefree way, but the reckoning and lawsuits for medical malpractice is going to be biblical.
If the sheep don't lynch em you mean?
People don't have the stomach for that.
I really hope so!
This guy just cost the hospital a $45k Covid hospital death bounty ? Or is it $90k now ?
People die for way less than $45k
I thought Ivermectin only worked in the very early stages, he doesn't look "early" to me.
Thanks for answering that. Is it Hydroxychloroquine that is more for early stages?
They are both the-earlier-the-better, HCQ isn't fast/potent enough for final stage recovery; Ivermectin seems to pull people back from the brink - although nobody should have had to go that far (or suffer at all) for this bug.
Great info! Thanks for sharing.
Think of it this way: HCQ is akin to getting a steroid shot to prevent, whereas Ivermectin are the heart paddles to revive if a viral or bacterial infection is not treated.
Both are excellent, but ivermectin will deliver the fastest 1-2-3 dose knockout to any and all infections, bacterial, and parasitic immediately.
Wow, some great information there!
I never heard about it for infections or bacterial problems as well.
Ive heard that about HCQ. Thats why the study showing HCQ didnt work was bunk. Because they only gave it to people late in the game, and gave them way too much.
and allegedly requires zinc be taken to allow absorption
Doesn't hurt to give it to him anyway.
Is there no fuckin Tractor Supplies in Chicago??? If that was my dad he woulda had the fuckin paste no ,matter what....O_O Fuck A Judge, and they would need alot more than a Rent A Cop to stop me from seeing my pop in the hospital.....
Good man.
Wow they were really rough on him in that hospital look at his bloody scraped up cheeks, one might think he has been in a car accident.
😳🥺 I know right?
Yes, very true. I believe hospitals “slip in” extra charges all the time. I was physically assaulted by a patient (the family believed it was due to a medication they told the hospital not to give him). He was clearly not mentally stable, otherwise I would have sued him for assault. I was told to go to the ER as a precaution and get checked out. The NP told me I had TMJ. When I said nobody ever told me that before, she quickly moved on. Low and behold, I received a notice my insurance company paid the bill. On principle, I fought it because it should have gone to workmen’s compensation and the hospital should have paid. My insurance company was pretty much indifferent and said I should contact my employer’s business office. No one would call me back regarding why my insurance was billed. I called the Patient Advocate and played phone tag. Finally she called me back, but had no knowledge of why I called. Finally she intervened with the business office after asking, “So what do you want the bottom line to be.” (Real tactful and caring response as a patient advocate to an employee! Makes you wonder how she treats other patients or family members). I finally received a call from the business office who said there was nothing they could do since insurance already paid. I said I would let the insurance know they were committing fraud. Finally they said they would contact the insurance company. It was reversed. What I found out later was they submitted the bill to Victims of Fraud on my behalf, without my knowledge. How is that possible? I have zero clue. But clearly I was victimized again by my employer who was to damn cheap to pay the bill for a crime committed to me by a patient. By that time I was done with the entire process. I wish I had had the time to pursue it, but I knew I wouldn’t win. The hospital has every major law firm secured in Cleveland in order to insure they win and the little guy loses. The AMA was started by the Rockefellers. Everything is owned and intertwined-Black Rock, Vanguard, AMA, AAP, banks, hospitals, insurance companies, Big Pharma, neighborhood pharmacies, Big Agriculture, Meat Packers, real estate, investment firms, Wall Street, FDA, CDC, NIH, etc., etc. Until the corruption from the top down is removed, we are owned and controlled by all of them in one way or another
A lot of good info in this article. He’s from HongKong- I sure hope he has a lot of friends and family that he can share his story with (safely) and get the word out about ivermectin.
I really am glad the guy is okay, but still, what authority does a "judge" have to do that?