[FROM THE Q BOARDS] THE "WHY WON'T TRUMP DENOUNCE THE VACCINE" QUESTION ANSWERED
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No. This explains why Trump didn't denounce the deadly vaccines back in 2020, but it doesn't explain why he's still doing it: During his August rally, Trump encouraging everyone to kill themselves and their children with the clot-shot and was booed by the audience.
So why is Trump still pushing the deadly vaccines?
That's the question that nobody's answering. They just keep trotting out the reasoning why he couldn't denounce the vaccines in the first place. Fine. we all get that part and don't need some condescending OP to lay it out again. But that explanation does not explain why he is loudly continuing to push the vaccines after they have killed tens or hundreds of thousands of people, and very serious doctors and scientists around the world are calling it a potential extinction event.
Perhaps to keep anti-covid-vaxxers safe from the total narrative destruction of being explicitly aligned with trump.
If trump says no vax, anyone who says no vax is pro-trump, and the no-vax position becomes inextricably linked to Trumpism and the merits of the no-vax position get lost in that noise. The no-vax position is strong enough on its own merits - it is actually stronger and has breathing room as a result of Trump being separated from it.
Trump has said that kids should not be getting the vaccine. He's also said that it should not be mandatory.
Personally, the world after this, is going to be full of critical thinkers - not a bunch of stupid followers. We're going to need leaders and those people are the ones that can discern for themselves regardless of what powerful people say. That data is out there. Think for yourself and you'll be fine.
Thanks for the fresh take. This is why we come here.
But aren’t we supposed to wake up the normies? Why is Trump afraid of the deep state? If devolution is happening, why allow kids and people to die when it’s already in place for Trump to return soon?
If he has it all, why is he afraid of peoples opinion? Isn’t that all the harm it is? Is that people might think that antivaxxers are following Trump?
I can tell you one thing. They still say antivaxxers are Trump fans. It’s all over the MSM. They don’t at all give Trump credit for pushing the vaccine. In fact they say all the antivaxxers are Trump fans and there’s still hate.
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That may be true on some levels, but I know several people who are vehemently against the jab and can't stand Trump. They are lefties through and through but refuse to comply. Bit of an oxymoron they are. We are all our own persons free to be who we want to be. For now....
And when someone says that you can point out the utter incongruity of that statement by pointing out that trump is a major vaccine spokesperson
I'm skeptical that both you and previous poster are actual organic comments - but I have an answer for you anyway.
The reason Trump needs to support the vaccines is the same reason Trump had to have VP Pence and appoint a bunch of swamp dwellers in government when he was in office. The propaganda media could have stopped Trump a lot easier if he was 100% opposed to everything they aligned with. Instead, Trump had to pick and choose carefully where his alignment could be used as momentum to force self-correction in the US.
In case you haven't noticed, Trump chose a different battle line to make a stand - it's your free will to get the vaccine. Those pushing the vaccine are also pushing for it to be law and for those who don't get it to be forcefully injected or removed from society. That's a more defensible position in a propaganda war than saying 'the vaccines are bad' since most people would still have a hard time believing that even the medical establishment is corrupt to the core.
Remember, though, how he had the rallies 'boo' on cue after mentioning Mexico and The Wall. Might be conditioning us on this response too. It is the same trigger/response every time it is addressed in an interview with him.
I wonder if Trump's position on the jab is so that he cannot be accused of acting contrary to the citizens' benefit - somehow the DS could claim he is working antithetical to the benefit of the US (treason charge?). I don't feel that he believes in the jab but is promoting it as a political position.
You must mean Trump's position is, not the one immediately preceding the "That's".
So if people will still believe the vaccines are good, why are we hoping that they will wake up?
Occums razor tends to swing more towards trump made bad picks in his administration and has been fooled by big pharma. Frankly I'd like to see financial statements to ensure he hasn't received any money from them.
I agree, “trust, but verify”.
Matter of opinion. The theme of "Trump being fooled again and again and again" IMHO doesn't meet the criteria for most likely scenario.
On one hand he's reputed to be a very stable genius, master of multidimensional game theory, and the leading practitioner of the art of persuasion; and on the other a complete bumbling nincompoop who can't read people even though he's earned billions dealing with them. Occam's Razor favors the former.
I believe he did receive about 2 mill from big pharma in campaign donations if i remember correctly.
“killed tens or hundreds of thousands of people“
Lmfao. Well first off the vaccines haven’t killed that many people. Stop listening to Alex Jones.
I haven’t seen anyone with a vaccine injury yet. To what I hear on the internet, no one has had any health problems.
He only took the vaccine so anti vaccine ppl wouldn't immediately be labeled racist Trump supporters.
But they still are. It’s all over the MSM. They won’t take the vaccine because they support Trump. Despite him plugging it, they still say that.
Which is mostly true. Trump may support it but the people fighting the mandates are Trump supporters.
Yes but the media specifically don't call them Trump supporters. That's the important distinction
^ The above is the question people have to ask themselves when they take one stance, either way.
By staunchly encouraging his audience to get the vaccines, and singling out a "small group" of people that booed him for getting the booster, he has effectively created a group for ostracization - those who aren't cheering him on in the vaccine rhetoric.
The question I posed is of dire urgency - it must be answered by everyone that currently follows him and is debating how to feel regarding his statements. There is no avoiding it.
Are we supposed to ignore the Vaers data? The people we know and have talked about here who were injured by the vaccines? If we can’t trust Anons, what’s left?
I’m sorry, but if it turns out we were wrong about the vaccines, that goes waaaaay beyond “eh maybe they’re not so bad.” That would shatter the trust and faith many of us have in this movement. That would be the straw that broke my back in terms of this all being “just a larp”
This is way bigger than us.
The only way to be wrong about the safety of the vaxx is if the VAERS data is 99.998% fake.
meaning what....that the vaccines are actually good?
He's got a terrible position and he is attempting to delegitimize valid criticism. Trying to "otherize" us? Wow.
Operation Warp Speed accomplished nothing but legitimizing an already-existing and completely invalid "vaccine." Trump wants to brag about that? Sad.
As a covid nurse, you don’t want to know what I’ve seen as the vaccination status in covid patients. This is a truth movement so I refuse to lie. I’ve also asked and many have ivermectin that I allow and we tell everyone to let them keep it and just look away. We do care about them. The hospital cares about the regulating agencies who can walk up and slap a sign on the door that they are now closed, or limit payments to them. The doctors and nurses will look away as long as you don’t say it out loud so we could get into trouble. We got into this because we care about people. Most of us anyway. Or at least most do not want to work extra and start a fight.
I personally have come to the conclusion that vaccines do spread the spike protein which is responsible for the body inflammation and the heightened clot risk. But so does the virus because it has the spike protein. Yet at the same time, showing the body the spike protein is exactly like showing the body the spike protein in infection, it leads to some cells recognizing it and therefore mounting an attack quicker.
You have natural immunity because of the spike protein.
You have the same immunity from the spike protein in the vaccine.
And also,
The spike protein in the vaccine causes immunity, but at a cost which raises inflammation, that leads to strokes. Inflammation is your immune system, literally.
And, in natural infections the same, the spike protein causes immune activation, which causes immunity, which raises clotting risk as a side effect of activating your immune system.
From the spike protein.
All of this is consistent across the board.
You get exposed to the spike protein you have some immunity next time.
Also, as your exposed to the spike protein your clotting risk goes up, because of that immune activation.
I have read about the genetic manipulation and totally agree there could be unknown effects from this approach and I’m concerned about them as I took the vaccine before I got my job. Story is I was in my own practice for holistic nursing and a prevention model and that collapsed because of health department regulations. I have a son with autism and we have not depended on state or federal support because I am against it. We take care of ourselves. I personally am not afraid of the vaccine because of my faith and knowledge about health. That’s just how I live.
But essentially, we are seeing natural immunity as a strong defense against the next exposure but at the same time, the vaccine prepares the body in the same way.
Natural infections do lead to strokes and heart attacks and I’ve seen it myself, in person.
Vaccines lead to strokes and heart attacks and I’ve suspected it.
The gene therapy as of yet is an unknown. They have seen this same type of MRNA medicine cause immediate death but since it’s so new, we haven’t had enough time to know long term outcomes.
You could die crossing the street next week. I look both ways.
It's obvious, he's not playing 5D chess. He is playing checkers and like many people who now know the news is bullshit, for some reason they still believe most of it. He clearly believes the bullshit about the vax. Which destories the idea he is some mastermind pulling strings. That is a very disheartening realization most people here do not want to hear. But it is what is it is.
Correct.