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WaPo: A site called SUBSTACK allows CONSPIRACY THEORISTS to PUBLISH WRONGTHINK (www.washingtonpost.com)
posted 4 years ago by lsdQ 4 years ago by lsdQ +82 / -0
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– Scorpion76 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Hahahahahaha fcuking WaPo!

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– lsdQ [S] 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Democracy Dies in Darkness

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/27/substack-misinformation-anti-vaccine/

Conspiracy theorists, banned on major social networks, connect with audiences on newsletters and podcasts

Newsletter company Substack is making millions off anti-vaccine content, according to estimates

Joseph Mercola, a leading anti-vaccine advocate whose screeds have been restricted by YouTube and Facebook, this month warned that the unvaccinated might soon be imprisoned in government-run camps. The week before, he circulated a study purporting to use government data to prove that more children had died of covid shots than from the coronavirus itself.

Shut down by major social media platforms, Mercola has found a new way to spread these debunked claims: on Substack, the subscription-based newsletter platform that is increasingly a hub for controversial and often misleading perspectives about the coronavirus.

Substack, which researchers from the nonprofit Center for Countering Digital Hate say makes millions of dollars off anti-vaccine misinformation, on Wednesday defended its tolerance for publishing “writers with whom we strongly disagree.”

Prominent figures known for spreading misinformation, such as Mercola, have flocked to Substack, podcasting platforms and a growing number of right-wing social media networks over the past year after getting kicked off or restricted on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Now these alternative platforms are beginning to face some of the scrutiny that has imperiled social media services. But there’s a fundamental difference in the architecture of newsletters and podcasts when compared to that of social media companies. Social networks use algorithms to spread content — sometimes misinformation — to users who don’t want to see it. Newsletters and podcasts don’t.

These newer platforms cater to subscribers who seek out specific content that accommodates their viewpoints — potentially making the services less responsible for spreading harmful views, some misinformation experts say. At the same time, the platforms are exposing tens of thousands of people to misinformation each month — content that can potentially lead people to engage in behaviors that endanger themselves and others.

Earlier this month, 250 doctors and scientists wrote an open letter to the music streaming platform Spotify asking the company to drop host and comedian Joe Rogan — one of its most popular podcasters — for discussing conspiracy theories about vaccines. Neil Young asked the company to remove his music in protest this week, saying in a letter that Spotify “can have Rogan or Young. But not both.” (Spotify dropped Young on Wednesday). Former Trump adviser Stephen K. Bannon, who was booted from Spotify in 2020, used his popular podcast, available on multiple platforms, to disseminate violent rhetoric and false claims about the election in the weeks leading up to the Capitol siege on Jan. 6.

Substack, which was founded in San Francisco in 2017, is part of a growing crop of subscription-based services whose mission is to help creators, authors and other influencers get paid for building more intimate relationships with devoted audiences. Readers pay per month to subscribe to a certain author, and the author keeps 90 percent of the revenue, while Substack takes 10 percent. The subscription model has become so popular that Twitter recently launched a subscription service and Facebook has outlined plans for paid subscription-based newsletters for authors and creators.

Mercola has been banned from YouTube, and his content has been restricted on Facebook. He uses his remaining public channels — like Twitter — to direct people to a “Censored Library” of articles he publishes in his newsletter, which is one of the top 10 most popular on Substack.

Mercola did not respond to a request for comment.

This type of content is “so bad no one else will host it,” said Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a nonprofit that focuses on combating misinformation and has researched Substack. By splitting subscription profits with creators, the group estimates, Substack earns at least $2.5 million a year from just five anti-vaccine leaders who have amassed tens of thousands of subscribers, each paying $50 a month.

Substack declined to comment, but shortly after The Washington Post made inquiries, CEO Chris Best and his two co-founders published a blog post saying that putting up with “the presence of writers with whom we strongly disagree” was a “necessary precondition for creating more trust in the information ecosystem as a whole.”

“The more that powerful institutions attempt to control what can and cannot be said in public, the more people there will be who are ready to create alternative narratives about what’s ‘true,’ spurred by a belief that there’s a conspiracy to suppress important information,” they wrote.

Facebook groups and other closed forums have long been plagued with misinformation because they are essentially echo chambers in which users share similar viewpoints, experts say, and newsletters face similar problems. They can make like-minded people more radicalized in their beliefs. And a popular newsletter can be picked up and amplified by other outlets, as well as forwarded to others.

Early on, social media companies took a hands-off approach to policing content. Only posts directly advocating violence or lawbreaking were removed. But Silicon Valley firms like Facebook, YouTube and Twitter have changed their approach over the past four years in response to controversies, including the use of their services for online bullying and sowing disinformation. They have crafted policies that police many forms of harmful material, including banning misinformation about the coronavirus, and have hired small armies of moderators who scan content and delete what breaks the rules. They also work with fact-checkers that help the companies label content that is inaccurate.

The rules social media companies have designed for advertising are even stricter because companies do not want to be perceived as profiting off hate and other social ills.

Still, misinformation creeps through and proliferates.

Substack, by contrast, is operating under standards that resemble those of social media companies in their early days. Chief executive Best said he wants to build a platform for “questioning conventional wisdom,” where “dissent is allowed.” He said he disagrees with the way social media companies have been pushed into becoming “censorship police.”

Best has even made a point of contrasting his business model with that of social media companies, saying the purpose of firms like Substack is to let people “take back” their minds from their social media feeds, which he refers to as “amplification machines.”

Substack’s limited content guidelines say the company bans “harmful content” but don’t specify except to say that this includes “material that advocates, threatens, or shows you causing harm to yourself, other people, or animals.” The company did not respond to questions about how the rules are being enforced, other than to say it maintains a hands-off approach.

Joan Donovan, research director of the Technology and Social Change Project at the Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy, said the attitude of companies like Substack was only going to invite further scrutiny.

“Openness is easily exploited, so a lack of policy means the brand’s reputation will be dragged anytime there is a major scandal,” she said. “Substack’s brand will be tied to its most controversial creators. Clear policy will ensure they can enforce their terms early on before a creator has caused so much damage that it’s impossible to separate bad actors from a bad product.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said approved coronavirus vaccines are effective in preventing covid hospitalizations and deaths. Mercola’s claim that they’ve killed more children than covid has been debunked by PolitiFact, which cited the CDC as saying there is no clear evidence that the vaccines have caused any deaths. The claim about potentially putting the unvaccinated in prison camps is a misleading reference to a New York bill from 2015 that relates to Ebola, not the coronavirus, according to Reuters.

The Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) calculated its minimum profit figure for Substack by looking at five authors who are known anti-vaccine advocates or have expressed skeptical opinions about vaccines.

Substack does not publish exact subscriber numbers but says whether authors count subscribers in the thousands and tens of thousands. The CCDH took those rough subscriber numbers and calculated their monthly profits by using low-end estimates for how much revenue is generated per subscriber. It then calculated Substack’s revenue using the 90-10 split, with 90 percent of revenue going to the author and 10 percent to Substack.

“Substack should immediately stop profiting from medical misinformation that can seriously harm readers,” said Ahmed, the CCDH chief.

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– DigitSoldier 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

WaPo... where democracy dies in darkness.

The only thing true in all of their articles.

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– LoneWulf 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Hello, you have reached the Washington Post. My name is Miss Information. How may I help you?

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– Mr_A 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Thanks for putting it on here so I don't give them a click. What a crock.

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– quila62 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

They are in panic mode. Cannot wait for MSM to go down hard!

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– ceegeegee 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Honestly, I can't decide if I want them to go first or last. They are the worst.

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– quila62 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

In my opinion the rest cannot happen on a large scale and it will continue to be a slow drip drip drip until the press as we know it falls down.

The COVID farce is falling apart and we are all victims of media who have committed crimes against humanity. I think the people all over the world should have massive "mostly peaceful protests" in every parking area of every TV, social media and newspaper outlet and let them know we are done with their lies. Do it Canadian Trucker style in every city in every country. Only then can we move onto the swamp in the same manner on a grand scale.

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– Th4rd_R3ich 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

"Mercola’s claim that they’ve killed more children than covid has been debunked by PolitiFact, which cited the CDC as saying there is no clear evidence that the vaccines have caused any deaths."

These fucking people... even the VAERS site itself shows that over 22,000 deaths linked to these mRNA vaccines. This number representing ONLY 1% of all deaths following vaccination.... so around 2.2 million deaths may have actually occurred post vaccination.

Compare this number to the 50,000 deaths that the CDC reported from the total 800,000 were categorized as "Covid only".

Baffling how much one figure was purposefully inflated to make people afraid of it, while the other figure is purposefully DEFLATED, discredited and rationalized as "correlation not causation".

If people were dying from the vaccines during the same period it's become normalized that people are dying from Covid, would anyone really notice the vaccine deaths?

It would sure make the perfect cover for it. And sure would be a clever way to depopulate. This is possibly the biggest gaslighting event that we've ever experienced.

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– SvixGale 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks for pasting this.

Don't give waMARXpo any clicks. Dirty bastards.

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– deleted 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0
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– Lupinate 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Jikkyleaks

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– dbsupernova 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They really don't like that the deplatformed were able to find a place to publish their wrongthink.

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– Aspie 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

"This type of content is “so bad no one else will host it,” said Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate . . ."

I guess he hasn't seen how Patel Patriot's devolution information is spreading around the world.

Against "digital hate," yet he's hating on Substack and everyone on it.

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– Donny_Fiasco 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Well, if the ministry of information says it is so, it must be true.

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– Qbaby 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Wronghtink is about right. Censorship must be fought - I may not agree with you, but i will support your right to spew your garbage.

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– OkieBowhunter 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Is this WaPo's way of standing against the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech? Why does WaPo hate freedom? Why does WaPo hate diversity? Why does WaPo want to silence ideas they disagree with? Does that mean WaPa can be silenced for ideas others may disagree with?

Does WaPo see the slippery slope of censorship and why the endorsement of such behavior means they're okay with it being used against them.

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– DigitSoldier 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Isn’t that what WaPo does?

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– Mr_A 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Nah, they only allow conspiracy practitioners to publish. They're exclusive that way.

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– Lupinate 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Translation : our subscribers don't believe us and now go to substack.com for the truth. Someone do something, we're gonna go broke...

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