Inconvenient facts about electric vehicles from a Tesla Owner (4chan copypasta)
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Source: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/366827832/inconvenient-facts-about-electric-vehicles-from-a
- They immediately lose 10% of their total battery capacity permanently. Google “tesla range loss” if you don’t believe me. Tesla warranty only covers more than 30% capacity loss up to 100k miles so the average 10% loss within the first year (I lost it within the first 3000 miles) is completely within spec.
- Cold weather destroys range. So if you live in the north expect to lose about 33% of your range on days the temp drops below 40 degrees.
- Driving faster than 60 to 65 mph destroys range. If you drive 80 mph expect to get about about 75 miles using 50% of your battery capacity. Get ready to be cursed regularly on the freeway if you drive 65 mph.
- You’re instructed to not charge it to more than 80% capacity or let it drop below 20% capacity or it damages the battery. So you really only have 60% of the capacity to work with.
- Real world range is 66% of whatever the battery shows. If my battery says I have 198 miles to 0% that means I have 132 real miles.
- Supercharging is 90% as expensive as gasoline and damages your battery and takes more than an hour.
- Anything that heats up the battery is bad for its health. Ie supercharging, parking the car in the sun, doing multiple fast launches.
So take my “long range” tesla which has 330 miles range new. It lost more 10% of that range within 2 months of ownership and now shows 290 miles range at 100% charge. Furthermore I’m not supposed to charge it to 100% or let it drop below 20% so my range is now 60% of 290 miles so something like 180 miles. Also real world mileage is 2/3 of that range so I only get something like 120 miles usable range which means I can’t drive further than 60 to 75 miles away from home.
I was an electric car enthusiast and owned converted gas cars more than fifteen years ago. I concur with all of these points. My cars were lead acid though and had a 25 mile practical range. They were only any good for local use. you could charge my cars from an ordinary mains socket, although it took a few hours for a full charge.
It seems to me that if everyone had electric cars, they would not be able to capriciously join convoys or even move from one city to another without planning their journey carefully around charging. The tech is perfect for limiting people's movement. That's why it is being adopted in my opinion and why they are trying to phase out gas cars.
Not to mention we are not in control of the power grid to charge at will. That rationing is coming too.
Yes, of course, and Tesla could send a message out to the cars as well to limit their range. There are so many ways to limit and monitor electric cars. I did not appreciate this years ago.
The last five years have certainly opened my eyes into how much control we have given them over us. At least a Tesla is cool - imagine falling for a Prius!!
Upvoted you, but if you are a proper EV enthusiast, Tesla's ain't cool, they're buggy prima-donnas which crash and catch fire.
Hey don't bag on Prius. That shit is hybrid so it still runs on gas at incredible mpgs, and relatively low cost brand new.
But somehow, people still think Elon is a white hat...
He can be a white hay and still produce worthless, inefficient vehicles. I'm not saying he is, but it's possible.
Yes with smart meters they could limit you if you wrongthink too much
"calls to shut of Russian Teslas" - yup - bad political opinions = you own a expensive brick.
Paper ballots. Gas gars with NO outside wifi connections - etc etc-
The Internet of Things is a gateway to totalitarian control of everything in your life.
IoT sounds great until you recognize the implications of that old maxim "anything on a computer can be hacked."
And I really don't need a voice-activated toaster.
Maybe -- maybe -- it would make a little more sense once the Free Energy starts to flow. But I'm not holding my breath until that happens. IF it happens.
Of all the anti-EV arguments, I can't fathom why /this/ one comes up on a board full of so many thinking, awake minds.
Unless you happen to be a petrochemical engineer sitting on a specific geographic feature (e.g. oil), how on earth do you think you can make your own gas? You can get a solar array (say, pre-chaos) and charge an EV even if the rest of the world disappears. I haven't seen many home refinery kits available. (And before someone brings up moonshine, Ethanol is corrosive to most plastic like fuel lines and won't run a car very long unless it is built for E85+ from scratch.)
Heck, if the power goes out, so do the gas pumps, and gas will expire quick enough stockpiling isn't a rational solution.
Sure, a 1970 Nova or something with a carb and no electronics will likely survive an EMP, but it still is only good for the 200 miles or so in the tank
If things get more serious, people will need to work and play near their home and bicycles will be making a comeback.
Good energy choices will come one day. For now, we still get to decide based on our own needs.
Not muh hybrid F150, it is so quiet, no engine star/turnover noise like I hear other cars/trucks make after being stopped. Has a 7.2kW generator in it which is convenient.
I love my F150. It’s a 5.0 and drinks gas like a drunken sailor. We almost broke up this weekend, but I decided to keep her. Why? Because, I love her. Not like I loved my ex-fiancé who left me for a heroin addict who later overdosed and died and she tried blaming his death on me despite me never really knowing the guy let alone being into heroin. So yeah, F150’s are nice trucks but you may wanna look at their eco boost engines which I hear have better fuel economy. And never date crazy. Yes, the sex is amazing but it comes at a steep cost. Hope this helps!
I’m really not sure about who is more or less evil. I need to read up on the car companies a little more, I keep hearing “ABC is going full EV by 20XX…” but I don’t see it being realistic. I love having gas. I keep extra gas. Do EV homeowners have extra power banks to charge said EV if power is out? How about a GAS generator to charge the car? KEK! I wonder how many people that RENT their domicile own EV? Does the property owner have a power bank/generator for them? Heck no. I’m in a hillier area and am getting 18/22 city/hwy 28gal tank. Very comfortable. Quiet. I tow a trailer part of the year, very easy. Sport mode it is very fast. Highly rec.
Electric vehicles = No supply chain.
Plug-in hybrid - best of both worlds. Cheaper on the first few miles and efficient use of unrestrained range using gas
Yes, as long as the companies do not shut it down remotely. I think they will have an opportunity to disable the car when it is plugged in to charge. I'm sure that it will have to handshake with the grid to charge.
I know that all modern gas cars are connected to the internet, but at the moment, if you disable that, they keep going AFAIK. This may not carry on in the future. Isn't there a bill to mandate a remote engine kill in all new cars at some near point in the future? I suspect it'll be illegal to disable that.
let alone burying anything about alternate fuels like ethanol.. used to be a kind of underground thing with people tuning and modifying their carburetors and making their own fuel with stills