I've followed the Q posts since 2018. Every single post, every 4chan, 8chan, reddit thread and deep-dive. I believe there is some disinformation in there, but I also know there are some very deep truths revealed in them that could change the world if accepted by the population at large.
My trouble comes with Trump's connections to Kushner/Rothschild/Israel. While I acknowledge that there is a covert war so complicated and deep it might not be possible for anyone to be completely clean, some of the direct connections are just too disturbing to me to ignore. If Trump is saving America (and working with the Q posts which are decidedly christian-themed), why is his daughter married into an orthodox jewish criminal family (kushner). Kushner literally bought 666 5th ave for 1.8b (6+6+6 = 18). He invested in one of the largest RFID companies working on implantable microchips. When trump was close to bankruptcy in the 90s, he took huge loans from the Rothschilds, and then put a former Rothschild banker in his cabinet as treasury secretary. Kushner family is deeply tied in with Netanyahu, who himself was directly involved in 9/11. Q stopped posting the day the first gene therapy went into arms, after promising we were safe.
I don't know...I want to believe it was an operation for good. I learned a lot from those posts. I believe they helped some Americans wake up. I also believe they were effective at putting truth out there and then labelling it as insane/etc to get many americans to think the truth is lies.
I know this is a war that likely goes back millennia, and it is without a doubt far more complicated than any of us could ever begin to imagine. But some things about trump just don't sit right with me. This might be too deep for many of you, but the Back to the Future series is directly about 9/11 and donald trump. The first movie is directly about 9/11, and the second is about Biff Tannen (a clear homage to DJT) gaining access to the future and becoming the richest man in a dystopian future America through Casinos/gambling etc. Donnie Darko is also about DJT and 9/11 (I can go deeper and back up these claims if you want), and he is again not presented in a positive light whatsoever.
He was at ground zero and blamed the muslims and continues to do so to this day. For anyone who knows anything about 9/11, the muslims were complete and total patsys, and both the US and Israeli governments were highly involved.
We got no arrests, no mass awakening, harmful virus with a patented moderna sequence smack-dab in the middle of it's genome, warp speed promoting moderna products that have harmed millions, no 9/11 truth, no epstein or pedophile arrests or uncovering, nothing.
The only possibility left in my mind is that DJT could end up saving the world by playing the bad guy and exposing all these criminals who they enticed into committing these crimes against humanity. I really don't see a way where he comes out totally clean...
I'm very, very sorry for posting this, and I know a lot of people on this forum will likely attack me or want to deny it, but I'm honestly so sick and tired of all of this, and frankly am feeling like the point of Q was to tell truth and then ridicule it to make people fall asleep even more.
It's possible the NWO crumbles under the weight of it's own absurdity, and the federal reserve causes it's own hyperinflation and we can create better systems in the future. But truthfully it seems that things have only gotten worse, and it's just getting started.
Open to any and all discussion....
Have faith. Judge the tree by its fruit. Trump’s fruit is red white and blue. He dearly loves America and has proven it.
trump's literal fruit is a daughter married into high-level Israeli crime mafia. Nothing good has come so far, despite promises that have not been kept.
I am holding onto some hope that everything happens for a reason, and that all will be explained. But it hasn't happened yet, and things have only gotten worse.
This is from the bottom of QPost 3063 I don't know what it means, but I think it's very complicated with Jared. Plus Jared looks very different nowadays.
interesting....
I understand your feelings, but things aren’t what they seem on the surface. God wins, every time. Trump is God’s man.
Your concerns are %100 founded.
The connections are intensely Zionistic seeming - which they should be to any layman on Israel.
You’re never going to be able to say “All Israel efforts are ______”. They have some seriously complicated internal politics - so what I suggest is looking at the fruit.
The Abraham Accords were the Neocon Zionists worst nightmare.
Working with Bin Salman? That’s a whole can of worms too. What if Yemen is a bigger deal than we realize? Where was Mujahadeen / Al CIAda based for a long time? Yemen.
These are complicated matters so instead of lending to darkness - lend to demonstrable action.
Trump says shit, intentionally, to shake out people. He does it internally and externally and always has. Read his books. It’s a strategy he deploys that scares the shit out of adversaries.
Know what else he does? What he says he will.
Look no further than ISIS / ISIL / IS.
Trump & Putin literally worked together and absolutely steam rolled what took NATO & the 9/11 Factions years to make. They obliterated it. Did Assad fall? Cuz that was the goal.
Putin now is fighting the same fight on his border. You realize this right? Azov and those extremists are literally NATO fueled, funded, backed & are willing to commit atrocity just like ISIS and the other mercenaries.
Moscow has Christian marches and ceremonies throughout the capital pretty constantly - and they look intensely happy.
Remember.
Trump is the most censored person in the world and he is a former president.
I can promise you Q is real. What was said was real. Your ability to affect the world with your OUTLOOK is real.
Don’t let in Darkness.
When you feel black-pilled - stop. It’s ok. Be still. Gather your heart and understand what we face is never ever going to be done without divine help. That’s it.
Also remember - God LOVES using imperfect people so do the biggest things. Voices in your head will tell you negative things and try to demoralize you. Those are not YOUR voices. The louder they are - the more important you are in The Plan.
I don't feel black-pilled, as I know who and what I am and am not particularly worried about my well-being in this material reality. I am sovereign over myself and always will be. I just see the pain that so many innocent and mislead people are going through, see it only getting worse, and am frustrated at the lack of decency in the world right now. But I do know how complicated it all gets and why this path may have been the necessary one.
Very well written. Every now and then we need to take a dead reckoning.
I very much appreciate your insights Hope. Thank you for your courage in giving voice to them.
I, along with the majority of Canadians felt like this. We had people from all over the world making fun of us, calling us Cucked, that we were doomed, that we were useless, hopeless, pathetic, yadda yadda yadda. We were told that we deserved what we were getting because we voted our horrible leaders in. Those of us openly resisting were told that we were doomed to fail, and an extraordinary amount of naysaying was done in order to, what I can gather, démoralise us as much as possible. We didn’t seem to be able to fight back against this onslaught, when we KNEW that everything being said was wrong, but no one was listening to us. We were screaming NO, and not only was no one listening, no one seemed to care. We had people making fun of us for not deserting our Country for supposed greener pastures, and people equating us with the losers that were NOT voted in by the populace, much like the case in all the Western nations. I encountered an awful lot of these sentiments everywhere, even on this site.
Then, when the Freedom Convoy began its trek, we were re-awakened out of despair. We learned that all our despair was sent to us INTENTIONALLY! We had such an uplifting of the soul and spirit through your name-choice, HOPE! We learned that we ARE THE MAJORITY! We learned just how many of us true, kind, patriotic and damn it, PROUD, there are. We learned, even with all the sabotage, treasonous behaviour, and violence that occurred, that there are far more of US than there are of any of the EVIL people in power. People all over our beautiful planet rejoiced with us, showed their support, took hope and ran with the relay baton in the race of not only the battle of humankind, but the biggest War ever, of human existence (that we are aware of). Many, many, many beautiful people threw off the shackles of despair and fear and realized that WE ARE THE MAJORITY! We learned the best of the Q lines...Where We Go One, We Go All! Truly!
That immensely uplifting experience of the shedding of despair, was euphoric. It helps to sustain me and millions of others throughout this idiocy. We remember that feeling as being much more powerful than the fear being broadcast by medias, governments, and the mere thousands of Evil-doers and Evil-worshippers.
As you said, all this is very complicated. Each of us is a piece in the puzzle of Humanity’s existence. A piece at one end of the board cannot see the picture being formed on the other. I know that lancing a canker is painful and can be dangerous. A good line I read in C.S. Lewis’s The Last Battle went something like this paraphrased version. Good done in the name of Evil, is still Good. Evil done in the name of Good, is still Evil.
Many will remain misled, and many more will choose to remain asleep because of convenience. Some even are being sacrificed or are sacrificing themselves. We honour them. However, please take heart in what I learned, and what whatever Q is/was has taught us, we know now how many of us there really are who are resisting the tyrannies from all around the world. Know that everyone resisting has your back. We support you. We love you.
I really appreciated your feedback. Especially the part about our outlook affecting reality. At times I feel like we have to acknowledge and look at the darkness in the world if there is ever any chance to defeat it. Other times I fear that a lot of this, having us research all this corruption and darkness, is putting those thoughts/energies into the world. So many of us now (both bad and good) are focusing on these things...how does that affect reality? I still always choose that we must know what it is we are fighting against and more importantly fighting for. However the only thing I can say I know for a fact is that I know nothing.
I hear you.
My time researching and all ripped my soul just about out. The darkness around me built up slowly & one day I realized I was basically consumed. I felt next to nothing.
When you research - ask for guidance. For me I had a complex about thinking I wasn’t good enough to ask for spiritual help. Now I wish I had that help riding shotgun the whole time.
I missed a chunk of my life I won’t ever get back. Yea I learned a lot of things in the research - I didn’t research enough about the things that would fill my cup. I kept not taking care and pushing forward. Eventually it was “do anything to keep going forward” instead of being healthy about it.
Darkness works pretty directly. That’s why the occultism is so pervasive. Obviously us learning to recognize it is a huge part - but what do you do once it’s seem? You have to counter it. When they bring in ugly - answer is you double down by bringing in goodness & honor. You have to offset it. The second you stop they win.
The bigger picture is that you and I are nothing but a link in the chain. We are here, literally, because those before us persevered. Why? So those after us can thrive. This Dark vs Light stuff isn’t going anywhere. The literal Meaning of Armageddon is that forever conflict between Dark & Light.
In the Bible Satan uses Misinformation constantly. He’s the Accuser. He throws Evil into the world in the form of dishonesty, lies, in an attempt to wash away anything else. He gets in the heads of the Good Folks and projects that he is thriving, winning, and in total control - especially when he’s loosing.
It’s all real. I am kinda dumb so - it took proof in my own life to show me that I had to invest and do the work. For me the hardest work was keeping that frame of mind open to will in Light.
It’s hard. Hard as hell. But I will be damned if I am the link that breaks this chain.
It’s not about me. He’s always been there and I’ve always been saved - I was just gaslit into that being kept from me.
Your assessment is 100% spot on. Highest confidence. NATO is the Fourth Reich. We are in the Fourth Klan. Q is 100% real as is The Plan, whatever that may be. We are watching a WWIII as 80% IW/IO 4G warfare. 95% of all MSM controlled. Pray.
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dont be sorry, we are here to question everything. we are not a liberal reddit echo chamber. as long as your arent shilling or anything like that you are welcome here.
appreciate this.
We have discussed this ad-infinitum but I will give you TLDR summary.
First, regarding his connections and Ivanka-Kushner, I would suggest reading this decode: https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2021/02/07/the-secret-history-connecting-trump-flynn-u1-and-9-11/
Trump, or anyone else, could not defeat Cabal unless they had a foot in their door. Trump has proven that he has backstabbed them once, and paid a heavy price for that and doing it now again.
If you read the Q posts carefully you will start to understand that this Plan is about divide and conquer - getting the various factions of Cabal to fight against each other and bring them all down. Of course, until the very last minute Trump needs to pretend that he is with one faction and use their help to take down the rest. That faction is the Israeli connection - hence Israel is for the last.
Arrests. If you arrested every single corrupt leader and official in the world and replaced them with honest people, it will take the Cabal roughly 10-20 years to replace them all with new corrupt people or to compromise the honest people, and then back to business. You wont appreciate this unless you udnerstand the power structure and the City of London and their banking cabal and how they control everything from behind the shadows. So yeah, people will cheer and be happy for a while and then its back to the gulags eventually. If not in our generation, definitely in the next.
Arrests are how you know Trump is a good guy. If Trump was bad what would have been his best play? Put yourself in his shoes. You have dirt on everyone. You know the system. You know their rules. What do you do?
You cut a deal with the Cabal. You arrest every one - Hillary, Obama, blah blah - throw all the puppets under the bus. Contolled hangout of pedophilia - expose only the outer ring. Become universally loved by the right and the left. Become the great unifier and cleaner of the swamp. Have 8 glorious years, replace the deep state with his own people. Lead them all into Great Rest - it would have been like lamb to the slaughter.
This last point - this is what made me believe that he is not evil.
I appreciate your comment. I am fully aware of the Bank of London, banking cabal, have gone deep into the secret societies that run our world as well. I realize there is so much more going on than any of us could imagine. I also agree that unless it plays out just right, it would simply be a matter of time before the cabal does it all over again.
Thanks for the comment.
I have 2 words...Hegelian dialectic. I believe the Bible "trumps" anything that the world (good or bad) has to promise or reveal. Th Q posts were very enlightening to say the least. I don't believe the dark powers that be have any fear of revelation so it is all in your face. Trump was a pretty good President (we have had so many bad ones) but I saw and heard some things that makes me scratch my head. And that is why my hope is in the Lord...l personally believe we are in the end times and NCSWIC because God is in control. How it all plays out remains to be seen but the greatest thing we all have to fear is the great deception that Revelation speaks of. We need to physically be prepared for what is ahead but more importantly we need to be prepared spiritually.
I second the suggestion from bubble_bursts to read that specific post from the decoding symbols guy. Very relevant. That plus Q post 3063 and 666 (marriage for power, not love), and historical knowledge of how the cabal operates give very plausible explanations for Ivanka and Jared. I haven't looked much into Jared specifically, but if he's been doubled that'd be a closed case; other possibilities is that he's been forced to flip lately (possibly a reverse tie-down like the cabal, possibly another tool as well), or simply has been rendered unimportant through continual surveillance. Another possibility would be that Ivanka guided her own story and ended up on the wrong side, something that happens in nearly every war.
The other source for me personally is the prophetic. Kim Clement is not shilling for clicks with his prophecies today (he died in 2016), and prophesied rather directly about Trump. There are others, but it only matters if you're open to that as a source. But it's a source that led me personally to Q, so it's part of my confidence in Trump.
And as others have said, Trump being bad makes for a story that probably would've been over by now, replacing our angst and suspense with simple death, blood and gore. There's plenty of reason for hope and optimism.
I get where your coming from fren. The thing with Trump reading the snake story several times at his rallies bothers me. But I still believe that project looking glass is real and anbody that used it knows Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming. The Second Coming! Have faith in God and Pray.
Buckle up, bittercup. It's going to get worse before it gets better. We aren't close to the precipice yet.
Disinformation necessary… we were told that from early on…
I am not terribly religious but I believe there was something said about 7 years of tribulation.
Things are going to get bad, even Q wrote that.
You don't shut down the world and expect things to all be rosy.
One way or another we are experiencing birthing pain, whether we birth freedom for all or a totalitarian nightmare is yet to be seen.
Good thoughts put into a good post. More than "fair enough". It's the end of my work day, I'm tired and don't have anything to contribute that would be better said then previous comments.
That said, I'm game for some Donnie Darko talk. Never got a wiff of that Theory. Have any leads? I won't both you for a full description.
I would also love to hear that theory, or a starting point for a rabbit hole
Donnie Darko came out in 2001, just after 9/11. The movie is about a boy named Donnie (wearing a Triumph t. shirt, triumph = trump) who meets a white rabbit named Frank who represents God. God lures Donnie out of his room to tell him that the world will end in 28 days (the actual number is 28 days 42 minutes 12 seconds which adds up to 88, the same number that is used for time travel in Back to the future, also about donald trump. Trump also = 88 in gematria. This is not just a coincidence, as when Donnie asks about time travel in donnie darko, they make a direct reference to the deloreon from back to the future. I will also link a video showing explicitly and without any room for doubt that BTTF was about 9/11, so that is another link).
After God lures Donnie out of his room, an airplane crashes into his house, right through the american flag and next to an all-seeing-eye poster. This airplane crash is very interesting considering the proximity of the movie and donald trump to 9/11, and the notion that many people have that 9/11 as an event shifted our reality in a significant way, almost as if from one timeline to a completely new timeline. Donnie was supposed to have died, but thanks to god's intervention was transported to an alternate timeline/reality where he is given superhuman powers. He begins to think he can do anything, and causes a number of terrible things to happen in this alternate reality. He accuses a motivational speaker J.C. (representing jesus christ) of being the antichrist, and thinks he can define good and evil for himself.
The movie ultimately ends with Donnie realizing that defining these things for himself turns the alternate reality into a hellscape, and that anyone and everyone he cared about is warped into perverts and or dead. Interestingly, the movie also makes a reference to pedophilic cults as in the alternate reality J.C. is running a pedo cabal. Similarly in BTTF, when Marty travels from the past to the future and a burning 9/11 appears on the screen, the movie theater changes from playing "the atomic kid" to "the congregation of christ". Similarly in Donnie Darko, just before he realizes how he must save the world, the movie theater is playing "the last temptation of christ".
He finally realizes that while he was given superhuman powers, it ultimately did not make him happy and the only way to correct the universe was to go back to the moment he was saved from death, accept his fate, and die. Donnie gets back into bed, lets the airplane crash into his bedroom, and the universe is restored to a good timeline where his friends and family are alive and the perverted nature disappears.
I know it seems like a stretch, but if I have discovered anything over the last 4-5 years, it is that there is so, so much more going on in our reality than most of us could ever comprehend.
BTTF/donald trump (there are actually even more direct references to trump/9/11 than even this shows but this is a great place to start)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEkgwRYgWF8
Donnie Darko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t36BvoT3O_k
let me know your thoughts, I'd love to talk about it more.
Thanks for the reply - it's been a long time since I've seen DD, and that was before Awakening. Obviously, I don't have much to contribute on the subject unless I get time for a rewatch, which unfortunately I doubt. Honestly, I know there's quite a bit Going On in DD, but it was never fully my cup of tea. I enjoyed it a lot more than once, just never had a large personal connection. The reason I was so intrigued is because I had a close friend when that film came out who was a very Big Brain Artist and whom I respected and loved like a Brother, and he absolutely loved the film, and it's always intrigued me for that reason since.
I'm already a bit familiar with the 9/11 BTTF theories. And TBH, the link between Trump and DD seems less concrete as you explain here than the BTTF theories. I'm definitely not capable of making any judgement beyond that gut instinct - but I realize my gut instinct is also pretty worthless unless I rewatch for myself. 😁
Thanks for the words and the video link. I'll watch it now. Hopefully it's not too long, need to sleep. 👍
Again, thanks for the OP - It's an important one that everyone should mull over in their search for Truth.
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Appreciate it! I have heard a lot about the BTTF and 9/11 connections, but haven't ever actually watched DD. However, based off of the premise of the storyline (alt. time lines/going back to the beginning to correct the path) it reminds me a lot of the premise of The Butterfly affect. Whose cover, I believe, has Project Monarch/MK ultra symbology, and the original "correction" deals with trying to stop child sex abuse from happening. I was younger when I saw the movie in theaters, like high-school age. I left the theater and started crying, complaining the movie made me feel mentally unsound. It deeply affected me at the time and I did not know why. Can't say that there are any connections to DJT or 9/11 in that film...but deff deals with how screwed up timelines can get when altered with.
very interesting. I'm going to go watch butterfly effect, actually have never seen it.
Whatever is going on, it certainly goes deep. There isn't a shred of doubt in my mind that BTTF is a direct reference to 9/11, which really starts one down the path of questioning just exactly why these things are happening, why they feel the need to show the public via movies, why no one stopped it, etc. very strange, very intriguing.
You’ve read every post and yet you sound very undereducated in this topic. The ending is not for everyone. Literally.
You provide a strong and convincing argument. I know that when I decide who to trust and what to believe, I listen to who calls me a faggot and then go with that option.
Also read my other posts, I'm real as it gets. I'm just asking questions and thinking for myself which is what the whole point of Q supposedly was.
EXACTLY!