You have to look at it like this, if your not trying to have a relationship with Jesus, and recognizing Him as your Lord and Savior, then most likely you are already, accidentally or otherwise, deceived and are serving the devil. So it’s not an an absolute, do or die moment....but it is.
It’s like me saying...your gonna jump out of this plane. We all are. If you don’t wear this parachute, your gonna die. Without Jesus, what chance in this world do you have against Satan? I can’t imagine any chance. Because even followers of Christ have daily issues. We fight everyday spiritually. It doesn’t have to be hard. You just have to be with Jesus. He is the way to the Father. Without Him, you will have nothing.
There is no us. It’s Jesus. It’s God. One in the same. If your not with Jesus, then search Him out. If you choose willingly not to, that’s on you. And that’s a total loss. You were chosen before you were born. Why not choose Christ as your Lord and Savior? It’s a win win.
"Without Jesus, what chance in this world do you have against Satan?"
Again, very very limited. I view Jesus as a Ascendant master... and from what im reading Jesus wasn't the only Christ energy at that time. But there were supposedly many Jesus like individuals reminding people of their godly origin.
Individuals like the Buddha are also Ascendant masters reminding the wondering souls of earth of their godly origins.
All of them! Ultimately teach the same lessons but in different ways because we all learn in different ways.
"Without Him, you will have nothing."
Nonsense! what a small limiting perspective. I am my own saviour, I will use the teachings from Jesus and other ascendant masters to save myself. Everything I need is within.
Only sith and evil will tell you to solely depend on them
That’s...no good. But I’m not gonna pulpit on ya. Just understand, you can only win with Jesus. You can only be saved through Jesus. All others are false. It’s been proven time and time again.
Has it occurred to anyone that in order to manipulate billions of people, the hyper corrupt pedo catholic church manipulated text... you know text that is 2000 years old.
You leave enough of the good stuff to hook people in but you edit other stuff to enslave the people.
Meanings are also lost in translation. For example Jesus isn't THE son of god, jesus is A son of god.
I fully expect people to come and try to gather people from the truth to join their "group". I fully expect that those groups could have gotten infiltrated, or perhaps even started as not great and just did what they had to do to keep the money flowing, so your argument isn't being ignored.
Jesus himself said that he was the Son of Man. That he came with a message from the Father in the name of the Father, he did not claim to be the Father. Jesus did claim to be the Teacher. I think he specifically choose Son of Man to let man know that we are all children of the Father. It it is written that God made each of us with his own hands. Son of Man only means born of a woman. Adam and Eve would both be considered Sons of God (angels) because the Father hand made them, they were not born. If the Scripture be true then we all are and Jesus came to remind us because we put other people above ourselves, as rulers, which we shouldn't do.
ugh my point is that you should look outside the box. And the box for you is the bible. Jesus has updated communications and because that communication is in a different form or isn't written in the bible it's dismissed as demonic or misleading on purpose. It's like arguing with someone who religiously watches CNN.
"A Course in Miracles: Based On The Original Handwritten Notes Of Helen Schucman--Complete & Annotated Edition"
I started reading this, there is no author, only a scribe. The Scribe only wrote down what the voice in her head was saying. The voice is jesus.
2000 pages and has daily exercises to learn how to perform miracles.
Ignore this or not, I put the information out there. Deep down we know when things are true or not. Here is a text example.
"Where could his freedom lie but in himself, if he is free already? And who could bind him but himself, if he deny his freedom? God is not mocked; no more His Son can be imprisoned, save by his own desire. And it is by his own desire that he is freed. Such is his strength and not his weakness. He is at his own mercy. And where he chooses to be merciful, there is he free. But where he chooses to condemn instead, there is he held a prisoner, awaiting in chains his pardon on himself to set him free."
"Why is it strange to you that faith can move mountains? This is indeed a little feat for such a power. For faith can keep the Son of God in chains, as long as he believes he is in chains."
"When you are tempted to believe that sin is real, remember this: If sin is real, both God and you are not. There is no choice but this. If creation is extension, the Creator must have extended Himself, and it is impossible that what is part of Him is totally unlike the rest. If sin is real, God must be at war within Himself. He must be split, and torn between good and evil; partly sane and partially insane. For He must have created what wills to destroy Him and has the power to do so. Is it not easier to believe that you have been mistaken than to believe in this?"
If you read this far, you have read updated communications from Jesus.
Not everyone believes that Jesus is really the son of God though. It's for sure possible that he was a charlatan or possibly even insane. Imagine if someone today claimed to be God/the son of God.
Anyway I would hope that God's rules for entry to heaven or whose side you're considered to be on don't actually hinge on what religion you choose or were born into believing.
Jesus said he was the Son of Man, though, not God. If you want to get technical we are all Children of God, he created each of us. He is a big deal because the people that hate him were told of his coming for a long time. The people he interacted with during his experience called themselves Gods and even had it written in their Law that they were Gods. (I dunno who is crazier in this picture!)
Christ also didn't establish religion but ended it for any that would listen. Religion is unnecessary and only serves as a division tactic. He moved the man made temple into the God made temple, the human heart. (though I suspect it was always there and we were just lied to FO MONEY!!!!)
I feel like you know what I mean, about how (and maybe it's my comprehension that's at fault here) basically God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are like the same entity in a way. And that it was an immaculate conception.
I also feel like things like that can be predicted and maybe that is why people talked about a savior coming.
I just try to be on the safe side because I want to go to heaven. And God said not to worship anyone else. And really it's like Jesus has surpassed God in the minds of many people. I mean the cross is everywhere from churches to the skin of believers and he even has his own catchphrase.
It's just hard for me to totally believe anything from that long ago and based solely on writings. I'm not even sure if I believe in dinosaurs anymore but at least they have fossils (whether real or fake) of those.
Also (if you're male), what would you think if your wife/girlfriend suddenly got pregnant (not by you) and her excuse was that God impregnated her?
" If Jesus is not your Savior, Lord and King you serve satan."
only Sith deal in absolutes... if you aren't with Jesus, you are serving satan is a twisted look.
In my opinion it's very dogmatic and limiting.
You have to look at it like this, if your not trying to have a relationship with Jesus, and recognizing Him as your Lord and Savior, then most likely you are already, accidentally or otherwise, deceived and are serving the devil. So it’s not an an absolute, do or die moment....but it is.
It’s like me saying...your gonna jump out of this plane. We all are. If you don’t wear this parachute, your gonna die. Without Jesus, what chance in this world do you have against Satan? I can’t imagine any chance. Because even followers of Christ have daily issues. We fight everyday spiritually. It doesn’t have to be hard. You just have to be with Jesus. He is the way to the Father. Without Him, you will have nothing.
Twist words in a cabal-like manner all you like, it doesn't change an absolute-"if you ain't with us you're against us" threat into something else.
There is no us. It’s Jesus. It’s God. One in the same. If your not with Jesus, then search Him out. If you choose willingly not to, that’s on you. And that’s a total loss. You were chosen before you were born. Why not choose Christ as your Lord and Savior? It’s a win win.
So you're saying salvation is basically a rhetorical question.
Also, how would you define "searching out for Jesus" and how would you know if I have already or not?
"Without Jesus, what chance in this world do you have against Satan?"
Again, very very limited. I view Jesus as a Ascendant master... and from what im reading Jesus wasn't the only Christ energy at that time. But there were supposedly many Jesus like individuals reminding people of their godly origin.
Individuals like the Buddha are also Ascendant masters reminding the wondering souls of earth of their godly origins.
All of them! Ultimately teach the same lessons but in different ways because we all learn in different ways.
"Without Him, you will have nothing."
Nonsense! what a small limiting perspective. I am my own saviour, I will use the teachings from Jesus and other ascendant masters to save myself. Everything I need is within.
Only sith and evil will tell you to solely depend on them
That’s...no good. But I’m not gonna pulpit on ya. Just understand, you can only win with Jesus. You can only be saved through Jesus. All others are false. It’s been proven time and time again.
I mean, Jesus said it. Is Jesus a Sith?
Pretty sure he would be a good Jedi in that setting. Tried to set the people free from "Vader" and his need for more power. They killed Jesus though.
Wasn't it Empire v.s. Rebellion. Jesus was 100% Rebellion.
That movie has a lot of parallels to Christ's story, kind of why all the new ones are shit, they took God out of them!
"I mean, Jesus said it. Is Jesus a Sith?"
Has it occurred to anyone that in order to manipulate billions of people, the hyper corrupt pedo catholic church manipulated text... you know text that is 2000 years old.
You leave enough of the good stuff to hook people in but you edit other stuff to enslave the people.
Meanings are also lost in translation. For example Jesus isn't THE son of god, jesus is A son of god.
I fully expect people to come and try to gather people from the truth to join their "group". I fully expect that those groups could have gotten infiltrated, or perhaps even started as not great and just did what they had to do to keep the money flowing, so your argument isn't being ignored.
Jesus himself said that he was the Son of Man. That he came with a message from the Father in the name of the Father, he did not claim to be the Father. Jesus did claim to be the Teacher. I think he specifically choose Son of Man to let man know that we are all children of the Father. It it is written that God made each of us with his own hands. Son of Man only means born of a woman. Adam and Eve would both be considered Sons of God (angels) because the Father hand made them, they were not born. If the Scripture be true then we all are and Jesus came to remind us because we put other people above ourselves, as rulers, which we shouldn't do.
https://biblehub.com/bsb/matthew/23.htm Starts at v. 7
ugh my point is that you should look outside the box. And the box for you is the bible. Jesus has updated communications and because that communication is in a different form or isn't written in the bible it's dismissed as demonic or misleading on purpose. It's like arguing with someone who religiously watches CNN.
"A Course in Miracles: Based On The Original Handwritten Notes Of Helen Schucman--Complete & Annotated Edition"
I started reading this, there is no author, only a scribe. The Scribe only wrote down what the voice in her head was saying. The voice is jesus.
2000 pages and has daily exercises to learn how to perform miracles.
Ignore this or not, I put the information out there. Deep down we know when things are true or not. Here is a text example.
"Where could his freedom lie but in himself, if he is free already? And who could bind him but himself, if he deny his freedom? God is not mocked; no more His Son can be imprisoned, save by his own desire. And it is by his own desire that he is freed. Such is his strength and not his weakness. He is at his own mercy. And where he chooses to be merciful, there is he free. But where he chooses to condemn instead, there is he held a prisoner, awaiting in chains his pardon on himself to set him free."
"Why is it strange to you that faith can move mountains? This is indeed a little feat for such a power. For faith can keep the Son of God in chains, as long as he believes he is in chains."
"When you are tempted to believe that sin is real, remember this: If sin is real, both God and you are not. There is no choice but this. If creation is extension, the Creator must have extended Himself, and it is impossible that what is part of Him is totally unlike the rest. If sin is real, God must be at war within Himself. He must be split, and torn between good and evil; partly sane and partially insane. For He must have created what wills to destroy Him and has the power to do so. Is it not easier to believe that you have been mistaken than to believe in this?"
If you read this far, you have read updated communications from Jesus.
Not everyone believes that Jesus is really the son of God though. It's for sure possible that he was a charlatan or possibly even insane. Imagine if someone today claimed to be God/the son of God.
Anyway I would hope that God's rules for entry to heaven or whose side you're considered to be on don't actually hinge on what religion you choose or were born into believing.
Jesus said he was the Son of Man, though, not God. If you want to get technical we are all Children of God, he created each of us. He is a big deal because the people that hate him were told of his coming for a long time. The people he interacted with during his experience called themselves Gods and even had it written in their Law that they were Gods. (I dunno who is crazier in this picture!)
Christ also didn't establish religion but ended it for any that would listen. Religion is unnecessary and only serves as a division tactic. He moved the man made temple into the God made temple, the human heart. (though I suspect it was always there and we were just lied to FO MONEY!!!!)
I feel like you know what I mean, about how (and maybe it's my comprehension that's at fault here) basically God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are like the same entity in a way. And that it was an immaculate conception.
I also feel like things like that can be predicted and maybe that is why people talked about a savior coming.
I just try to be on the safe side because I want to go to heaven. And God said not to worship anyone else. And really it's like Jesus has surpassed God in the minds of many people. I mean the cross is everywhere from churches to the skin of believers and he even has his own catchphrase.
Jesus Christ is The Son of God. If you don't have that much figured out I'm out of this convo.
We know, it's called anti Christ who believe that.
It's just hard for me to totally believe anything from that long ago and based solely on writings. I'm not even sure if I believe in dinosaurs anymore but at least they have fossils (whether real or fake) of those.
Also (if you're male), what would you think if your wife/girlfriend suddenly got pregnant (not by you) and her excuse was that God impregnated her?
wait till people remember we are all children of god