To recap on the relevant part of the movie for this. In the movie, the final plan that Ramius and the Americans decided on (and the best plan if it were to work) was to have Ramius defect to the USA with the Red October submarine while convincing the Soviets that the Red October had been sunk and destroyed.
Ramius had an option to get off of the Red October along with the rest of his crew when he engineered the nuclear problem (see Part I).
However, he did not choose this option. Let’s imagine the chain of events had he taken this option. Moscow had asked the USA to intervene and shoot down the Red October on the premise that Ramius went rogue and wanted to fire nukes at the USA.
If Ramius had successfully defected to the USA and Moscow knew about it, Moscow would not be able to save face. Both the Soviets and the USA would know about the “caterpillar” technology the Soviets developed with the purpose of having nuclear warheads reach American shores undetected.
Moscow would then feel equally unsafe about the Red October being in the hands of the Americans. Nuclear tensions between the two countries would have gone through the roof and diplomatic relations could have broken down.
The consequences would have been incalculable. Ramius plan to remain inside the Red October to stage a “false flag” sinking of his own sub would have been the highest “yield” solution for both countries and for himself.
So how does this relate to Zelensky, Putin, Trump and the war in Ukraine right now?
My hypothesis is based on the premise that the current war is according to the plans of Trump and that Zelensky is not who he seems to be.
If you are of the view that Zelensky if simply a hypocrite or a defender of the deep state and are unwilling to entertain another possibility, then you should read no further.
First, the background of Zelensky. He was born and raised in Kryvyi Rih as a Russian speaker. He only learned Ukrainian and English afterwards.
His grandfather fought in the Red Army against the Nazis in the Second World War. His grandfather’s three other brothers all died by the Nazis.
Zelensky’s main platform for winning the election was to bring about a peace deal in Eastern Ukraine or the Donbass region.
Now let’s assume Zelensky genuinely wants peace in Donbass. When he came to power, what would have stopped him if he just wanted to make a straight deal with the Russians for peace?
The answer is very public now but it wasn’t so obvious back then to everybody in the West. The Nazis, Azov battalion, other rogue fighter groups, extremists in Ukraine financed by the US Deep State essentially would hold a legitimate Ukrainian government hostage.
Why couldn’t Trump just solve the problem himself you might ask?
Root out the evils in Ukraine while he was still in office and had power. Think about how dangerous that would have been for Trump had the current story not fully come out?
Kolomoisky and Soros funding of the Nazis would have done their best to push Russia into action in Ukraine. What could Trump do at that point? Bioweapons released for false flag attacks by the Russians, the media screaming Russian collusion.
It would be a horrible situation to be in. It had to be this way. Trump had to step away to let the Deep State reveal itself.
Now that we have the context of the whole situation in view, what can we begin to see?
We can begin to see what we need to get from this Ukraine war in the big picture of things.
We need to reveal the extent of Biden and Deep State corruption in the Ukraine.
We need to destroy the Nazi army occupation in the Ukraine.
We need to neutralize the biolabs in Ukraine to prevent false flags and another pandemic from happening.
There’s probably more that we cannot see, but what we can see is more than enough to paint the picture.
The evil that resides in Ukraine is our Red October.
Hence, Zelensky or Putin can fill the role of Ramius in our story.
Remember the posts that Zelensky was actually communicating with Putin in telling him exactly where to bomb?
Of course, none of this can be confirmed. There are things that will never be revealed to the public. But I have a feeling that by the time this war is over, Zelensky, Putin and Trump will have all achieved exactly what they wanted in the very beginning.
Zelensky will rid his country of the Nazi battalions that have essentially overthrown the regular army.
There will be peace in Donbass via a treaty with Putin.
Putin will have achieved a purge of all the US biolabs in Ukraine, secured a neutral Ukraine and peace in the Donbass region.
Trump will have shown the American people just how far Biden was willing to go to protect his corrupt dealings with Ukraine.
If you can see the big picture, you will see that it had to be this way and that the best is yet to come.
Edited for spacing.
This is a great analysis.
Understanding Putin is on our side against the Cabal in this war takes slightly big brains.
But understanding Zelenksy is not who we think he is, and that he is actually on our side takes really big brains. A lot of Anons wont accept it, and its okay. They will get there in their own time. A lot never accepted what happened in Afghanistan was the defeat of the Cabal there. Atleast with Ukraine more people are waking up, and that is the nature of Great Awakening. Each event wakes up more and more people.
Only thing I will add to the ending, the bigger picture is bigger than just Ukraine, Donbass, Russia and Biden's corruption. I believe the key point of this story is the Russian Sanctions and how it will boomerang and kill the US Dollar and the Fed and the entire Cabal life blood of wall street along with it.
This will finally bring us to the biggest-brain fact of all. Biden is not who we think he is. He is doing everything to sabotage the deep state and make things go according to the Plan. Clearly it's not the real Biden - Trump told us he was shot in the head, and we can see he is different. However he has been installed there, and whatever the Cabal think he is doing, he is actually on our side, and the realisation is just sinking in, hence the Hunter Biden and trying to get rid of him.
Trump had told us about this as well, so its glorious to watch this amazing plan go exactly as planned.
Yes, by no means am I saying that my conclusions will be the grand finale. There are too many parts that are not visible to me. I'm just trying to formulate a clearer picture of the current mess taking place.
I am sure we will all be surprised by how this ends. The picture is simply too big for people outside of Trump's inner circle and high ranking Deep State people to comprehend entirely.
I've also thought about the Biden being a fake thing. I've formed no conclusion on this theory, but if it were true, the guy playing Biden must have seriously thick skin to be doing what he's doing. I also find it incredible that Leftists are still willing to defend Biden's actions given how disastrous they've been and how obviously senile he is at this point.
As we move towards the precipice, I wonder what else is going to happen to convince these liberals of the truth.
About the Biden being fake: I'm firmly in the [doesn't make sense and doesn't add up therefore doesn't hold water ] camp. that's also because I'm yet to see any serious or well-developed analysis that supports the idea. All I see is "It MUST be true! Look a the guy!" That's not analysis. That's leaping to (shakey) conclusions without applying due diligence. IMO.
Just wanted to say that, because I'm surprised that so many on our board are "true believers" on that theory. I can't see much Q-based methodology in that....
Devil's Advocate: Sometimes our eyes tell us the truth.
That guy doesn't look like Obama's VP. I don't know for sure, but my gut says NOT the same dude.
I agree. It’s not him. Each time I see him, there is something different about him.
Sure. And sometimes our own beliefs, prejudices, and habits mislead us.
Anyway, for me, the most relevant question here is:
Are there any explanations other than "its fake guy in a mask or just a different individual" that are:
possible?
likely?
plausible?
consistent with other empirical factors?
for why "that guy doesn't look like Obama's VP"?
If there are, due diligence means reviewing those, assessing different possibilities, and applying analysis.
I mean, if you like, go with your gut, but I'm just pointing out that this is NOT what Q taught we anons to do and it's not consistent with anything Q based. Without that due diligence, such "beliefs" tend to undermine the power of the truth movement, because they are closer to blind belief than belief based on knowledge and understanding.
Q3906
Re: Biden...
What makes a good movie?
Actors
My .02... the MSM will literally break. That will be the normies que (pun intended) to start listening to alt sources and swallow massive red pills.
Biden vs Buyden Who-is-who?
The application of a hammer to the head might produce some results. Or, wait, a well deserved slap in the face!! Hmm.
Soooo - is Hunter who we think he is?
He just happened to drop off a hellish laptop to a civilian repair shop?!, the SS assigned to him didn't know that? He left his ID and drugs in a civilian rental car?
The person ACTING as Joe Biden called Hunter the smartest man he knows.... not Joe. The meaning changes based on who said it.
My brain is small because I don't have all the facts? I'm trying to piece together something that resembles logic from myths & legends put out in a convoluted stream of information mixed in with disinformation and absolute bullshit added on top of everything I've ever been taught to this point in my life has been a lie... so yeah I'm sure there's stuff I've missed, misunderstood and knowing there's stuff I have believed through this entire awakening process that will be revealed as another falsity.
And to be called stupid by both sheep AND Anons ... it's been fucking blast.
There is a Q post that was analysed here recently. Makes it clear that Hunter was angry with his dad - I am guessing he was abused as well - and turned himself to the White Hats. Leaving the laptop like that was probably intentional, to legally introduce evidence.
Badge of honour, Anon!
I think one thing that people (incl. Anons) don't consider - but which I believe to be true - is that the Deep State head of the snake was cut off very (very) early in Trump's 2016 counterattack (victory).
I believe that the true pyramid toppers (as I call them) - maybe they are part alien, but certainly the Luciferian leaders (not visible to the masses) were literally killed (some captured) by special forces.
That explains the Trump tour (SA, UK, Vatican) where he told them: You're fucked, you have no top-level support. Play along with the Great Awakening or you're next. Side note: Some TRAITORS who were also US Vets (think Noname and Pappa Nazi) were executed for Treason. This was also a place setting for what is / was coming for the minions. (Some may have gotten deals, some will never get the offer - think Hitlery, and Podesta...)
Anyway, if you think this way, then what we've been witnessing are - a) DS clean-ups, Minion Death Blossoms, Great Awakening, New Global Peace, and Prosperity being set up for post-GAW implementation (to reduce the pain for the people).
"The meaning changes based on who said it." Big Brain. 👍
OP: I'm sure glad you shared part two of your theory, it really pulled it together. Also glad you shared your "background." Faith in Fundamentals.
"Here but for the Grace of God..."
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Hunter and his laptop. If you watch what a man does, why did Hunter not respond to the repair shop's calls? It seems obvious to me that Hunter wanted his laptop to be used as evidence of the Biden family's corruption. So, did Hunter flip, or was he told to flip? I think the latter. White hats are in control and they have it ALL.
Definitely caught and saving his own skin!
dziekuje, Pan.
I've never seen it written, but that looks as if it would sound like my Polish friends saying thank you :) sort of like je(n)-KOO-yeh?
Close?
/wordnerd
Lots of Polacks on this board. 💪
Makes me wonder if the popularity of those Polish jokes and joke books back in the 70's & 80's were intentional. 🤷♂️
jūsų sveikinimas... I'm more Lithuanian;)
“I’ve also struggled with Biden not being the real Biden. On the surface, I have to ask myself, “How is it possible for the fake Biden to be surrounded by his actual family and Deep State inner circles (world elites and swampy politicians), attend meetings, be previewed and controlled by all their plans (essentially being a mouthpiece for them) while at the same time receiving instruction from White Hats?” Devolution1776.
My theory on Biden’s family staying quiet is that the military is in control of the Cabal & Biden’s family knows he got a bullet to the head and they are playing along to save their own skin. We haven’t really seen a lot of Biden’s family. When is the last time we’ve actually seen Hunter, Ashley or any of the grandchildren? His brothers have been radio silent, as well.
This whole debacle with the laptop couldn’t have been anything but a set up. The computer repairman’s story that came out this week shows you his high morals of handling the evidence with integrity. Hunter had plenty of time to sober up& go retrieve the laptop. It was a set up to save his own skin as he obviously was turned by the white hats.
I just hope I live long enough to watch the movie that Mel Gibson will produce after all of the dirt is exposed!!
The fakes are actually easy to understand. You take out the real one (via military tribunal) but don't announce anything officially. The bad guys who really need that character to tie their loose ends or keep up the charade will replace that person with a fake. At this point the family, the inner circle, and some higher ups in the Cabal will be in on it. The rest go along even if they might suspect.
Now all it takes is replace the replacement (or compromise the replacement) and you have a fake who is working for you. And it would be very hard for anyone to suspect until they see the fake not doing what they have been told.
Now, if the fake keeps acting incompetent, then they will give more and more chances, until it gets to the point where they will take him out. I think that point is coming close with Biden-fake.
See the Biden doubles
https://rumble.com/veb6xl-biden-treasonous-usurper.html
I'm with you. For me, it just doesn't stand up logically.
Who is controlling "the fake"? Some people who believe the idea think its the white hats. Others think it's the black hats. None of them apply due diligence and logical analysis in my view.
If it's the black hats, what advantages does it create for them? Why not just put in another puppet instead and avoid all the risks of using a fake?
If it's the white hats, what advantages does it create for them? Would it be moral? Ethical? It's one thing to impersonate a cartel boss or henchman (using masks, etc) to perform a sting over a day or several days and a series of isolated interactions, in order to make arrests. It's another thing completely to create yourself a fake situation, deceiving the entire population, and actually orchestrate evil actions yourself.
It's one thing to step aside and let evil do what evil does in order to be able to eradicate that evil. It's another thing entirely to do evil yourself on the justification that it serves "the common good". That's marxist murdering ethics, that is.
It's NOT logical. That's why there is no serious analysis around this topic that supports the idea. It's a theory, but one that is invested with an almost religious belief by those who adhere to it. That's an important sign right there.
When someone comes out with devolution-level analysis that explains WHO is doing it, why they are doing it, how they are doing it, and why other more plausible explanations are not valid, then I'll take it seriously. But not until.
I’ve been saying this to anyone with a brain big enough to accept it for so very long!! The Ukrainian people deserve better than what Joe Biden’s crime family has done to their beloved country. With all of the corruption that has been happening it just strengthened the Nazi regime due to their dirty money schemes. I don’t know all of the ins & outs with the connections of the former Ukrainian president, Poroshenko, the Cabal & Soros and the Nazi military but I’ll bet there are a lot of connections. Thank goodness for President Trump & other world leaders having bigger brains than all of us! Also, I’ve thought since the debates that Biden was a white hat plant, he’s too good at being a buffoon to be anything else! It’s starting to get very enjoyable!
GOLD WILL KILL THE FED.
China and Russia (and the other BRICS) will bring gold to the forefront very (very) soon. (so buy some Silver today before it's unobtainium)