From what I have learned in the past 2 years of this. I don’t believe anything they taught us…trust your Bible and your gun, just like grandpa said and doubt everything else
Without diminishing the value of the gun, it only survives IF people know howto make a gun and the ammo, having the resources and tools to produce them.
The Ukraine situation tells you something about the value of a gun in a warfare situation with a belligerent possessing the means to outgun you.
That said: your bible is much older, and has already been surpassed ....(as a totality of the body of knowledge)
The percentage of Neanderthal DNA in modern humans is zero or close to zero in people from African populations, and is about 1 to 2 percent in people of European or Asian background.
That means, for most of us here, that 300 generations ago... our ancestors weren't so picky about having sex with a Neanderthal.
I just picked an image lol... It is pretty clear we have Neanderthals mixed in. Kek, She is ugly but I'm horny, or he is ugly but has a nice tool...Seen trais in a lot of pee ple.
Being a hunter gatherer is basically the way every species on earth lives ... However, agriculture, husbandry presupposes knowledge of cause and effect, and planning.
The Younger Dryas indeed seem to cut human history in two. What was before, given the impact of the event, seems hard to reconstruct.
That said: there are still people on this earth living the way their ancestors lived for 10.000 years: as hunter gathers.
It is also quite clear that IQ and time-preference are related, meaning, the lower the IQ, the more time preference is geared to what is today.
So, what kind of man proliferated? Those who were very good at hunting and gathering. In this case there is no need for written records, buildings and other permanent dwelling places. Only agriculture requires sedentary settlement.
With this in mind, I would suggest to look at shamans. By altering their consciousness they may have found a way to make this discovery by " accident" as a message from the gods on how to do something to protect the tribe.
Because with what we seem to know now ... these events all took effect in a place where the need was present due to environmental circumstances: like weather.
Think 7 good years, 7 bad years.
For those more inclined to literally take the genesis story, read carefully what happened after the flood. The storyline tells you all of a sudden people played instruments (= instrument making), metallurgy, and other crafts, very specific to certain tribes. You can take knowledge, whether only in mind or also in books, through a cataclysmic event. knowHOW, with the emphasis on HOW, requires doing it and failing at it. Think Edison and the lightbulb. He knows 10.000 ways of NOT making a lightbulb, but only one needed to succeed.
At the very least, readers of the Genesis story will accept the notion that through time, with failure, results come to fruition. And certain things in that process may proof to yield byproducts even more profitable. (remember your own first attempt at gardening?)
And then looking back, such discoveries are mired in the mist of time, how did humankind do that, or discover such ....while all we know for sure: we know how to.
They consistently find new tools and discoveries that make them push back the dates. This has been a constant thing for the last 90 years. And the 'leading' theories are always changed as a result.
Also the mere thought that there can be different subspecies of Homo Sapiens will get you banned from all the leading circles and publications for this field. What is science/archeology if you can't question it?
Why do you believe that? The bible doesn't say, God spoke and said, "Let the big bang happen." And if the big bang happened (I don't believe it did) then why do the planets spin in different directions? They should all be spinning in the same direction.
No scientific theory on the origins of the universe says the universe came from nothing. That is public school lay persons explanation. Nothing isn't testable or observable.
Nah, I don't buy it. Just because a scientist says something, there's no reason to believe it's correct. Just like with anything else, scientists can be wrong, and they can also be bought and paid for. We've seen plenty of that. Why would you believe anything outside of what the bible teaches? And it certainly doesn't teach a very lengthy evolution where we go from a sea creature on to various stages of ape and then human. Not even close. And you didn't answer my question.
Because the Bible has many contradictions and people have left them out and added them as they see fit. In modern times people selectively agree with what they agree with. I am not looking at all the minute scientific details, just using the term Big Bang because God created it all, the hundreds of millions of galaxies. Not looking to debate this now, God is expecting us to step up and stop Satan.
Why do you say people have left things out and added them? Are you not aware that the original texts of the bible were confirmed by the Dead Sea Scrolls and that the translation / text was consistent with modern day translations? Anyway, I don't know what you're looking for by asking your question. It seems you find it hard to believe what you believe.
Funny. The best there is, if you can find it, would be a scroll written in the 6th century BCE. Why? Because that is the time-frame when the "books of Moses" were alleged to have been found in some remote recess by the high priest Hilkiah. It allegedly sparked a political and religious revolution. Very convenient. There is no forensic trail that goes back to the origin.
In this sense, the Egyptians were smarter. Their hieroglyphs can still be read today ...
Clay-tablets of Assyria/ Sumer/ etc can still be read today.
However, just because a text version can be confirmed, does not mean it is factually true. It just means that a certain view is surviving over a certain period of time. In and of itself that does not mean anything special.
I remember watching a show a long while back I think a scientist who explained things from a creation point of view. Anyways he posited a theory one may reconcile the observed age of the universe with the roughly 6000 years from Bible by looking at from time dilation created by relativity. From an observer (let’s say God) on the edge of the expanding universe expanding near speed of light, time would be really slow and be days while to observer on earth it would appear to be millions and billions of years having gone by.
Can science, as a body of knowledge arrived at by hypothesis-> test-> same result, be wrong?
Yes. It has been shown to be. E=mc² is wrong. See magnet. Kepler was wrong too. albeit initially. Why? He was taken by his own musings on the beauty of mathematics. This subjection of himself to this body of knowledge, was such that it blinded him from the facts. He even concluded that his facts were wrong, just to conserve his ideas. Yet, later he discovered that, instead of circular, the movement of planets was elliptical. He was humble enough to question his own bias, which, by the way, was deeply rooted in his view of God. By discovering his bias and the rigorous test (decades I should say) he rewrote his hypothesis, and started testing it.
A 1000 years ago, a Persian scientist, mused about the proliferation of plants and their environments. He deduced that environmental factors caused changes in plants producing different species. Those factors were the availability of water and the timing of them, the soil type, the temperature and climate. But since his religion proscribed: everything is as Allah wills it, the solution was quite obvious. Allah did it. Was he right? People believed for ages that it was so.
Only Darwin and Wallis took it one step further and proved that these factors, these environmental factors, which none of us have in hand, caused selection, in the sense that those life forms with the most appropriate faculties to that environment have a better chance of reproduction and hence proliferation.
Think oranges. Can you grow oranges in Idaho? I guess, but you then would have to append the environment. A green-house might help. With that you provide the exact environment for oranges to grow.
This same process is done by humans where it concerns dogs, vegetables, grains, life-stock, etc.
Just the fact that science, as a body of knowledge based on experiments is wrong, does not mean it is wrong. It is our human way of knowing the universe. Observation and questioning. That is the start. To be able to penetrate mysteries, we have to device new instruments to be able measure things. Hence the iso-codes.
However, and this bears repeating. The belief the science of the last three years, has been demonstrably a false narrative and hardly indicative of what science is.
Goto min: 25:00. That is the pendulum experiment. The pendulum science predicts certain outcomes. Levin puts it to the test. And guess what? the prediction is true. And Levin dared to put his health on the line to demonstrate it.
When an object is spinning in a closed system and no external torques are applied to it, it will have no change in angular momentum.
The conservation of angular momentum explains the angular acceleration of an ice skater as she brings her arms and legs close to the vertical axis of rotation.
If the net torque is zero, then angular momentum is constant or conserved.
Where does the same direction come in?
With an explosion it can be observed you contention is not factual. Objects spin in all kinds of directions and with different direction of spin away from the source of the explosion.
Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn are all visible with the naked eye. The word "planet" means wanderer and they were named so because their position is constantly changing relative to other stars. I'm not concluding that they are whole other worlds, but what are they?
I was like you, til I kept digging and discovered the whole story we were being taught about (aka the big bang and evolution) are creations of the Khazarian Mafia, so now I just believe what the Bible actually says. Hint...evolution isn't there, nor is anything else they want to you to believe is meant by some obscure verse. They infiltrated the churches first, by infiltrating the seminaries; how else do you think they upended society this effectively?
But was Adam alone with Eve? How did their children procreate, being direct siblings? Even "purified" genomes cannot produce offspring so closely related without problems. Of course, God could have easily fixed any issues, but this site is about 50/50 humanism and Christian. So the other 50% needs an answer. It could be that God made pockets of Man, and only Adam's history survived?
If you mean: the bible is knowledge, I would agree to some degree. But science?
In its most rudimentary form science is a method. Follow the method, you arrive at an explanation subject to falsification based on rigorous testing with the following outline:
observed phenomenon -> hypothesis (assume, supposition, postulation, speculation) -> devise a test -> apply the test -> repeat the test -> compare outcomes. Each test should yield the same outcome. If so, then that is your explanation. The whole process is transparent and open and forensically traceable.
The bible fails that rigorous process. It is not science. It is a certain type of knowledge, either literal or symbolic.
It’s actually complete bullshit and in no way “scientific”
Archeologists have found Dinosaur fossils with blood cells in the horn, but for some reason none of the major “scientific journals” will review their findings.
Most of this bullshit is controlled via the Smithsonian. They hide massive sums of human history that would more than likely blow peoples minds away.
The idea that you were an ape turned human is absurd. They just want to do anything to make you believe you aren't Gods creation.
From what I have learned in the past 2 years of this. I don’t believe anything they taught us…trust your Bible and your gun, just like grandpa said and doubt everything else
Yup, gun is new, Bible is not.
Without diminishing the value of the gun, it only survives IF people know howto make a gun and the ammo, having the resources and tools to produce them.
The Ukraine situation tells you something about the value of a gun in a warfare situation with a belligerent possessing the means to outgun you.
That said: your bible is much older, and has already been surpassed ....(as a totality of the body of knowledge)
The percentage of Neanderthal DNA in modern humans is zero or close to zero in people from African populations, and is about 1 to 2 percent in people of European or Asian background.
That means, for most of us here, that 300 generations ago... our ancestors weren't so picky about having sex with a Neanderthal.
John Brennan's ancestors went back for 2nds.
Most of our archeology is under water and under sand. The Vatican and Smithsonian hold much of our known history.
Why are Neanderthals missing from this?
I just picked an image lol... It is pretty clear we have Neanderthals mixed in. Kek, She is ugly but I'm horny, or he is ugly but has a nice tool...Seen trais in a lot of pee ple.
You do not know what you do not know.
Being a hunter gatherer is basically the way every species on earth lives ... However, agriculture, husbandry presupposes knowledge of cause and effect, and planning.
The Younger Dryas indeed seem to cut human history in two. What was before, given the impact of the event, seems hard to reconstruct.
That said: there are still people on this earth living the way their ancestors lived for 10.000 years: as hunter gathers.
It is also quite clear that IQ and time-preference are related, meaning, the lower the IQ, the more time preference is geared to what is today.
So, what kind of man proliferated? Those who were very good at hunting and gathering. In this case there is no need for written records, buildings and other permanent dwelling places. Only agriculture requires sedentary settlement.
With this in mind, I would suggest to look at shamans. By altering their consciousness they may have found a way to make this discovery by " accident" as a message from the gods on how to do something to protect the tribe.
Because with what we seem to know now ... these events all took effect in a place where the need was present due to environmental circumstances: like weather.
Think 7 good years, 7 bad years.
For those more inclined to literally take the genesis story, read carefully what happened after the flood. The storyline tells you all of a sudden people played instruments (= instrument making), metallurgy, and other crafts, very specific to certain tribes. You can take knowledge, whether only in mind or also in books, through a cataclysmic event. knowHOW, with the emphasis on HOW, requires doing it and failing at it. Think Edison and the lightbulb. He knows 10.000 ways of NOT making a lightbulb, but only one needed to succeed.
At the very least, readers of the Genesis story will accept the notion that through time, with failure, results come to fruition. And certain things in that process may proof to yield byproducts even more profitable. (remember your own first attempt at gardening?)
And then looking back, such discoveries are mired in the mist of time, how did humankind do that, or discover such ....while all we know for sure: we know how to.
They consistently find new tools and discoveries that make them push back the dates. This has been a constant thing for the last 90 years. And the 'leading' theories are always changed as a result.
Also the mere thought that there can be different subspecies of Homo Sapiens will get you banned from all the leading circles and publications for this field. What is science/archeology if you can't question it?
Why do you believe that? The bible doesn't say, God spoke and said, "Let the big bang happen." And if the big bang happened (I don't believe it did) then why do the planets spin in different directions? They should all be spinning in the same direction.
If the Big Bang theory is legit, then what started that? It wasn't nothingness that started a bang... This one sometimes makes an Atheist think
No scientific theory on the origins of the universe says the universe came from nothing. That is public school lay persons explanation. Nothing isn't testable or observable.
Spoke into the darkness and created... God invented the science we live in, I think eventually we will understand.
Nah, I don't buy it. Just because a scientist says something, there's no reason to believe it's correct. Just like with anything else, scientists can be wrong, and they can also be bought and paid for. We've seen plenty of that. Why would you believe anything outside of what the bible teaches? And it certainly doesn't teach a very lengthy evolution where we go from a sea creature on to various stages of ape and then human. Not even close. And you didn't answer my question.
Because the Bible has many contradictions and people have left them out and added them as they see fit. In modern times people selectively agree with what they agree with. I am not looking at all the minute scientific details, just using the term Big Bang because God created it all, the hundreds of millions of galaxies. Not looking to debate this now, God is expecting us to step up and stop Satan.
Why do you say people have left things out and added them? Are you not aware that the original texts of the bible were confirmed by the Dead Sea Scrolls and that the translation / text was consistent with modern day translations? Anyway, I don't know what you're looking for by asking your question. It seems you find it hard to believe what you believe.
Funny. The best there is, if you can find it, would be a scroll written in the 6th century BCE. Why? Because that is the time-frame when the "books of Moses" were alleged to have been found in some remote recess by the high priest Hilkiah. It allegedly sparked a political and religious revolution. Very convenient. There is no forensic trail that goes back to the origin.
In this sense, the Egyptians were smarter. Their hieroglyphs can still be read today ... Clay-tablets of Assyria/ Sumer/ etc can still be read today.
However, just because a text version can be confirmed, does not mean it is factually true. It just means that a certain view is surviving over a certain period of time. In and of itself that does not mean anything special.
I remember watching a show a long while back I think a scientist who explained things from a creation point of view. Anyways he posited a theory one may reconcile the observed age of the universe with the roughly 6000 years from Bible by looking at from time dilation created by relativity. From an observer (let’s say God) on the edge of the expanding universe expanding near speed of light, time would be really slow and be days while to observer on earth it would appear to be millions and billions of years having gone by.
Can science, as a body of knowledge arrived at by hypothesis-> test-> same result, be wrong?
Yes. It has been shown to be. E=mc² is wrong. See magnet. Kepler was wrong too. albeit initially. Why? He was taken by his own musings on the beauty of mathematics. This subjection of himself to this body of knowledge, was such that it blinded him from the facts. He even concluded that his facts were wrong, just to conserve his ideas. Yet, later he discovered that, instead of circular, the movement of planets was elliptical. He was humble enough to question his own bias, which, by the way, was deeply rooted in his view of God. By discovering his bias and the rigorous test (decades I should say) he rewrote his hypothesis, and started testing it.
A 1000 years ago, a Persian scientist, mused about the proliferation of plants and their environments. He deduced that environmental factors caused changes in plants producing different species. Those factors were the availability of water and the timing of them, the soil type, the temperature and climate. But since his religion proscribed: everything is as Allah wills it, the solution was quite obvious. Allah did it. Was he right? People believed for ages that it was so.
Only Darwin and Wallis took it one step further and proved that these factors, these environmental factors, which none of us have in hand, caused selection, in the sense that those life forms with the most appropriate faculties to that environment have a better chance of reproduction and hence proliferation.
Think oranges. Can you grow oranges in Idaho? I guess, but you then would have to append the environment. A green-house might help. With that you provide the exact environment for oranges to grow.
This same process is done by humans where it concerns dogs, vegetables, grains, life-stock, etc.
Just the fact that science, as a body of knowledge based on experiments is wrong, does not mean it is wrong. It is our human way of knowing the universe. Observation and questioning. That is the start. To be able to penetrate mysteries, we have to device new instruments to be able measure things. Hence the iso-codes.
However, and this bears repeating. The belief the science of the last three years, has been demonstrably a false narrative and hardly indicative of what science is.
You want to see a : belief the science event?
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sJG-rXBbmCc
Goto min: 25:00. That is the pendulum experiment. The pendulum science predicts certain outcomes. Levin puts it to the test. And guess what? the prediction is true. And Levin dared to put his health on the line to demonstrate it.
why should the planets spin in same direction if the Big Bang is real?
Because of a law in physics called The Conservation of Angular Momentum.
Where does the same direction come in?
With an explosion it can be observed you contention is not factual. Objects spin in all kinds of directions and with different direction of spin away from the source of the explosion.
There are no planets
Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn are all visible with the naked eye. The word "planet" means wanderer and they were named so because their position is constantly changing relative to other stars. I'm not concluding that they are whole other worlds, but what are they?
This channel and video series may be interesting to you https://youtu.be/Mbfd3BZ_UAY
stolenhistory.net
Check out these articles for a scientific creation view:
https://creation.com/en/topics
There's a lot of great evidence that is never talked about.
I was like you, til I kept digging and discovered the whole story we were being taught about (aka the big bang and evolution) are creations of the Khazarian Mafia, so now I just believe what the Bible actually says. Hint...evolution isn't there, nor is anything else they want to you to believe is meant by some obscure verse. They infiltrated the churches first, by infiltrating the seminaries; how else do you think they upended society this effectively?
But was Adam alone with Eve? How did their children procreate, being direct siblings? Even "purified" genomes cannot produce offspring so closely related without problems. Of course, God could have easily fixed any issues, but this site is about 50/50 humanism and Christian. So the other 50% needs an answer. It could be that God made pockets of Man, and only Adam's history survived?
If you mean: the bible is knowledge, I would agree to some degree. But science?
In its most rudimentary form science is a method. Follow the method, you arrive at an explanation subject to falsification based on rigorous testing with the following outline:
observed phenomenon -> hypothesis (assume, supposition, postulation, speculation) -> devise a test -> apply the test -> repeat the test -> compare outcomes. Each test should yield the same outcome. If so, then that is your explanation. The whole process is transparent and open and forensically traceable.
The bible fails that rigorous process. It is not science. It is a certain type of knowledge, either literal or symbolic.
You do realize carbon dating is complete bullshit right?
These people dating rocks and dinosaurs back 60 million years have absolutely no clue how old it is.
I suggest watching “Is Genesis History”…it used to be on Netflix…
It's not complete bullshit if it's tested correctly. Such as actually testing carbon and carbon that isn't a contaminant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APEpwkXatbY
https://answersingenesis.org/geology/carbon-14/doesnt-carbon-14-dating-disprove-the-bible/
It’s actually complete bullshit and in no way “scientific”
Archeologists have found Dinosaur fossils with blood cells in the horn, but for some reason none of the major “scientific journals” will review their findings.
Scientism is a false religion
I've already seen most of the shit from answersingenesis more than 8 years ago. I'm surprised anyone still uses it today unironically.
Now I think this guy has a silly avatar but it looks like a thorough debunk of whatever argument you think you had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZS3jjlA-U8