You don’t get smarter in college, you just memorize protocol. That’s literally it. I’m in STEM at 4th year and I am yet to be taught anything besides protocol.
But I mean, the protocol is very useful, especially the math, and you will become proficient at what you were taught to do, but I by no means have a more valuable opinion on anything outside of electrical engineering just because I am learning the protocol behind it.
I would argue you do NOT need an engineering degree to be an engineer. You spend so much time in classes like advanced math, learning about other disciplines you don't care about, and of course all the fluff of a "rounded university education."
My view is there should be a 2-year fundamentals covering the basics, including some math theory but not sorting through ridiculous equations/calc/etc - computers for that, but need to know what you're calculating at least type of thing, then apprenticeship type deal in discipline you want to work in actually on the job.
Edit: I realize I'm not really answering the comment but off on a tangent. Yes, from a "worthwhile you'll probably have a job" standpoint they are worth getting vs most that are truly worthless.
as someone with an engineering degree, yes, it is worth getting - IF you want to do engineering and want to live in an area where the kind of engineering you want to do is done.
Otherwise, you gotta be real careful now deciding if college is really worth it especially with so many good opportunities in trades that don't require any college at all.
It is, my 19 year old stepson get's asked all the time if he's going to college or going to go to college and he answers, "no, I'm too smart for college." lol Nobody knows what to say about that 🤣
These people are usually almost completely useless. It's like they were young adults and knew they were dumb, so they keep going to school for 6 years or more, and come out just as dumb as before, but they have a graduate diploma and tell everyone they have it upon introduction. Ask them to change oil in a car, hang drywall, or fix a leaky pipe and they don't know where to begin. I met plenty of these people when I was in college. It made me stop with a Bachelor’s degree because I knew at that point real life experiences would teach me far more than school ever could.
it made me drop out after 2 years, now i make good money and am starting a business. the degree is worthless, you have to work for getting a career just as much as you have to work for getting a degree, so just skip the degree and start working hard
I went for engineering, so I did learn practical stuff. I took a couple of graduate classes as electives and realized that those classes are mostly fluff and the content was hardly worth learning. It was abundantly clear that grad school was a grift.
Ironically I ducked into grad school straight from undergrad because of recession at the time, and specialized in what I liked best (materials/metallurgy etc). I really enjoyed that deep dive and time period way better than the hectic pile of undergrad. Of course, I never really used the specialization....
It's especially weird since owning a company doesn't actually require any degrees, nor should it, and social media is also not some hyper specialized, high skill job to begin with.
There's no reason you would need a medical degree for example to run Twitter.
I blame the societial stigma over the "you're not smart unless you've gone to college/university." You need to fill your life with massive debt, otherwise you're dumb. 🙄
A degree is just a symbol. A symbol that you underwent education and training in the field your degree applies to. The symbol is still there today, but what it's supposed to represent has completely changed. So people still talk about these symbols referring to what they used to represent, but now people are catching up to what they've morphed into.
When someone with a PhD or JD wants their transmission rebuilt, or their HVAC unit replaced, or a roof repaired, or their laptop or PC fixed... Do they find someone with a degree? Lol. No.
See, their degree doesn't help them much (well, I guess it helps them pay for services). Skills. Gotta have some. Any, really. Even know how to install and run an antivirus, how to change your oil, basic plumbing, proper ways to cook food that doesn't taste awful... These are all useful.
Nothing wrong with a degree per se, but it's not the catch all end all of knowledge. People with degrees forget that sometimes.
I have two Masters degrees and now I think college is a fucking scam.
You don’t get smarter in college, you just memorize protocol. That’s literally it. I’m in STEM at 4th year and I am yet to be taught anything besides protocol.
I have heard that engineering degrees are one of the few worth getting.
Excluding Civil Engineering lol
But I mean, the protocol is very useful, especially the math, and you will become proficient at what you were taught to do, but I by no means have a more valuable opinion on anything outside of electrical engineering just because I am learning the protocol behind it.
I would argue you do NOT need an engineering degree to be an engineer. You spend so much time in classes like advanced math, learning about other disciplines you don't care about, and of course all the fluff of a "rounded university education."
My view is there should be a 2-year fundamentals covering the basics, including some math theory but not sorting through ridiculous equations/calc/etc - computers for that, but need to know what you're calculating at least type of thing, then apprenticeship type deal in discipline you want to work in actually on the job.
Edit: I realize I'm not really answering the comment but off on a tangent. Yes, from a "worthwhile you'll probably have a job" standpoint they are worth getting vs most that are truly worthless.
as someone with an engineering degree, yes, it is worth getting - IF you want to do engineering and want to live in an area where the kind of engineering you want to do is done.
Otherwise, you gotta be real careful now deciding if college is really worth it especially with so many good opportunities in trades that don't require any college at all.
It is, my 19 year old stepson get's asked all the time if he's going to college or going to go to college and he answers, "no, I'm too smart for college." lol Nobody knows what to say about that 🤣
What made you decide to get 2 Masters degrees?
I was earning a Masters in Finance and opted to do a little extra work and pick up an MBA as well.
Practicing lawyer. Can confirm.
These people are usually almost completely useless. It's like they were young adults and knew they were dumb, so they keep going to school for 6 years or more, and come out just as dumb as before, but they have a graduate diploma and tell everyone they have it upon introduction. Ask them to change oil in a car, hang drywall, or fix a leaky pipe and they don't know where to begin. I met plenty of these people when I was in college. It made me stop with a Bachelor’s degree because I knew at that point real life experiences would teach me far more than school ever could.
it made me drop out after 2 years, now i make good money and am starting a business. the degree is worthless, you have to work for getting a career just as much as you have to work for getting a degree, so just skip the degree and start working hard
I went for engineering, so I did learn practical stuff. I took a couple of graduate classes as electives and realized that those classes are mostly fluff and the content was hardly worth learning. It was abundantly clear that grad school was a grift.
Ironically I ducked into grad school straight from undergrad because of recession at the time, and specialized in what I liked best (materials/metallurgy etc). I really enjoyed that deep dive and time period way better than the hectic pile of undergrad. Of course, I never really used the specialization....
His premise is redonk, that the future of democracy is entrusted to a twitter executive.
That’s how committed these commies are to censorship.
It's especially weird since owning a company doesn't actually require any degrees, nor should it, and social media is also not some hyper specialized, high skill job to begin with.
There's no reason you would need a medical degree for example to run Twitter.
Yea and they took medical advice for two years from someone who dropped out of college 🤣
I blame the societial stigma over the "you're not smart unless you've gone to college/university." You need to fill your life with massive debt, otherwise you're dumb. 🙄
Law degree here. I don't do this. But I do know what you're talking about.
It's like you only get a seat at the table if you have a degree.
A degree is just a symbol. A symbol that you underwent education and training in the field your degree applies to. The symbol is still there today, but what it's supposed to represent has completely changed. So people still talk about these symbols referring to what they used to represent, but now people are catching up to what they've morphed into.
When someone with a PhD or JD wants their transmission rebuilt, or their HVAC unit replaced, or a roof repaired, or their laptop or PC fixed... Do they find someone with a degree? Lol. No.
See, their degree doesn't help them much (well, I guess it helps them pay for services). Skills. Gotta have some. Any, really. Even know how to install and run an antivirus, how to change your oil, basic plumbing, proper ways to cook food that doesn't taste awful... These are all useful.
Nothing wrong with a degree per se, but it's not the catch all end all of knowledge. People with degrees forget that sometimes.