Personally dgaf for most part about the abortion issue - just a hot button topic of a dead horse that gets best every time the party lines blur and we need devisively pitted against one another again
But
That shit was hilarious hearing him call these hypocrites out
Just because it gets beat to death every cycle doesn't make it any less on its own. Trump beats election fraud to death, but it's still just as important.
Your comparing apples to arbys brisket sandwich there bruh
To touch on abortion…
One’s own personal feelings/beliefs do not suddenly make something ultimately right or wrong. That type of thinking is the flaw with liberals, and sadly, with fundamentalists as well.
The right/best thing to do is what’s being done, which is stated rights.
Want to be a cum dumpster and not be responsible for what happens? Well then get on birth control or live in a state that allows abortion.
My primary point however - look at the times when abortion has been raised in mainstream media. There is a direct correlation to there being either an election looming or some major events that both parties voters were agreeing on occurring. Currently, that would be the Ukraine situation and hunters laptop - but now, voila, distraction with abortion and suddenly we have division again.
Idk, we as a nation spawned ourselves into existence with this banger of an opening monolog:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
But what lays in front of us as states rights is another example of compromising with the left until we have to shift our values time after time.
In any case, again, the reason it's a hot button topic that we get bludgeoned with is because it's always all talk but nothing done. But that doesn't make the topic any less important. Now it finally seems like we're primed to see something happen, but for all we know it's another head fake and false hope.
I feel you there. Until it's done, there is no reason to celebrate the leak.
Also, maybe I read the next part wrong but we’re you saying You see states rights as compromising with the left?
Yep that’s exactly what hot button issues are - nothing useful will be done. Just like the race card - no one is willing to try and solve the situation, cuz it’s too valuable to play when voting time comes around.
You're on a roll with the good takes. I felt for a long time I was the only one here not frothing at the mouth for "moar babies"
It's worse because I've been considering having one or two daughters but the attitudes on here make me completely uninterested in
Even considering the idea and incredibly worried for what world they'd grow up in if Trump/Q team fail and all that is left is deranged libtards and fundamentalist theocrats.
Simile boat my friend and time is ticking as I’m 38 and my wife isn’t far behind me. I don’t want to mention it to her because she is the type who will become consumed easy if leadership (me) wavers at all - but I do have some serious concerns, I also know folks like us having kids is the only possible way to reversing all of this if DS gets toppled even a little bit.
Scary times and I wish I could just go back to how my mind was a few years back when this was all just an occasional conspiracy musing vs being reality. I’m not a big prayer/religious person, but I fuckin pray to whatever is out there that Q team or whoever are real and succeed.
But that's just it, Fren. It's beat to death because most pro lifers are just virtue signaling. If all you are doing is arguing on the internet, then you're just as useless as the ones in other ideologies who do the same. You say shit to feel better and that's it.
Pro life is a lifestyle. We are not a pro life society and the pro life movement is a joke of a movement overall. What we should be doing along with supporting pregnancy centers is working towards removing the burdens of pregnancy. I've seen people here and elsewhere screech to no end, "we must have more babies!" Well, no. We need to fix this joke of a society first. A society that is currently supported by both parents or potential parents working 40+ hours a week to barely make ends meet is NOT a society worth keeping let alone repopulating. Until we can get to a point where women are given the entire 9 months plus or their whole lives to sit back and do nothing except care for children. Until a household consisting of two adults and three dependents can sustain a household on one income, it's not worth saving.
It amuses me how many self proclaimed pro lifers are vehemently against paid maternity leave and the welfare system. But go on and tell me how we need more tax payers on the plantation and how the poor, rich corporations can't sustain it. Bullshit. Stop buying the lies and clutching your pearls. If we're serious about saving America then it's time we talk about things that we've for all the wrong reasons clung to and need to let go of.
Damn, good comment. I have been saying for weeks, no one wants to answer the socialism question. I bring up adoption and no one wants it, "giving up your kid is almost as evil"
And that's besides the point..why should a position based purely on religion be the default position of a country that plays pretend democracy?
Let's just be done with it and call it a theocracy, but if that's what it comes down then what's even the point of Q?
Exactly. If Jesus comes to establish His Kingdom, that's that. We'll figure it out from there.
Until such time, we must challenge the precepts and preserve the Constitution. Even Jesus wasn't above hard evidence and proof. The Southern Baptists love to toss around "dOn'T bE a DoUbTiNg ThOmAs". Okay let's examine. Thomas, being the sane one said unless he could put his finger in the nail holes, the claims Jesus had Risen were all bunk. So what happens? Jesus appears, proves Himself by letting Thomas examine the wounds for himself and then He... Forgives him... gasp I know! He doesn't smote him for lack of faith He forgives Thomas... Interesting so Jesus isn't insecure nor is He above proving Himself contrary to the blind faith teachings of the church.
If Jesus wanted us to have a theocracy He would have left an instruction manual. Instead Rome remained intact for many years after He ascended, with the promise of retuning to establish the Kingdom then. Until such time, Christians are commanded to love their enemies, take care of the poor and a bunch other shit they conveniently ignore while pursuing material things and distractions.
Far be it from me to judge as I too enjoy such things. However a theocracy is not the answer. Even Jesus doesn't want to force the issue. In fact, He never did. The people came to hear Him, something most Christians forget. Of course it doesn't help that Christianity follows Paul's interpretation of Jesus and not so much the Man Himself.
You have to give attention to abortion because it is very closely linked with the Satanic machinery. I dont think any of us really understand all the ways in which thats linked, but one undeniable aspect is the baby part industry and the constant push to get more and more people to abort their babies, and make it easier to abort later and later in the pregnancy.
Essentially, abortion is a key element in the way Cabal operates.
I've been thinking the same thing about slaughterhouses lately...considering we don't need flesh to survive...are they just giant cabal sacrificial buildings?...Especially how every now and then, the bulk slaughterings occur all at once. Both babies and animals have a special kind of innocence within them.
Nah. Let me elaborate. The destruction of farm animals has to do with destruction of food sources and to push everyone towards Cabal rationed nutrition - a big part of the NWO.
The reason why slaughtering animals probably does not play a huge role in Satanic sacrifice is that killing humans is what they get off on. Its really all about the power and my personal view is that Satanism originated as a way for a group to people to convince themselves that they are superior to the rest of the humans.
From a more spiritual view point, offering animals to benevolent God has always been part of the Christianity and Bible goes into great details as to how to do this. It has also always been part of non christian cultures all around the world. However when we talk about Moloch, its human sacrifice attributed to him and specifically infants.
That makes sense on the destruction of food sources, although would that be the case throughout all of the prior years it has happened? Or alterior motive? (Ohhh interestingly enough, in the prior incidents pre pandemic - a lot of their stories were due to some kinds of animal 'disease', some fires were included.)
My opinion is similar to yours although it does (for me) include animals and how they have wanted Dominion over all living beings.
Thank you for sharing your spiritual views! I think this just is where different perspectives have slightly different views! I was raised a catholic and was constantly told about animals not having souls etc. Something always seemed off to me! Everytime I was with animals, I felt a soul presence, always. A mutual understanding and such innocence and curiosity, like children. I broke away from Catholicism and formed my own views afterwards. I saw it as the Garden of Eden part. But then I just had lots of questions like 'would a slaughterhouse be the work of the devil or the work of God?'
'Would God give them the ability to feel pain so that humans can do that to them on a mass scale when they are unable to defend themselves?' (Writing this, for sure the same could be said in regards to children too)
Also, I wondered, how comes governments and media would call animal rights activists extremists? Sometimes after being outside a slaughterhouse, youd still hear the screams in your ears. That to me, personally, was far from God.
Also the cognitive dissonance people had of say, a cow and a dog led me to believe that surely this must be indoctrinated too! In China people see dogs differently also. A perspective given by Education systems, Media and Governments depending on country, ruler or religion?
The Ag industry, before this time was also one of their biggest money makers, sadly including health care for things like heart disease and such (though there are a number of things in junk food which can also of course cause this). These are just my thoughts on it anyway and from my prior understandings. I understand people have lots of different perspectives.
Oh interesting, I didn't know human sacrifice made many plays in the bible aswell!
Notice how it's completely shifted things away from other issues. Again. The cynic in me believes that this is being done deliberately to cover up...everything. The fallout from Covid, money going missing in Ukraine, the sinking economy, etc.
It's also a quite brazen attempt to separate the Christian Right from the rest of the Right. Now who would benefit from such a thing? Splitting the voter base?
Personally dgaf for most part about the abortion issue - just a hot button topic of a dead horse that gets best every time the party lines blur and we need devisively pitted against one another again
But
That shit was hilarious hearing him call these hypocrites out
Just because it gets beat to death every cycle doesn't make it any less on its own. Trump beats election fraud to death, but it's still just as important.
Your comparing apples to arbys brisket sandwich there bruh
To touch on abortion… One’s own personal feelings/beliefs do not suddenly make something ultimately right or wrong. That type of thinking is the flaw with liberals, and sadly, with fundamentalists as well.
The right/best thing to do is what’s being done, which is stated rights. Want to be a cum dumpster and not be responsible for what happens? Well then get on birth control or live in a state that allows abortion.
My primary point however - look at the times when abortion has been raised in mainstream media. There is a direct correlation to there being either an election looming or some major events that both parties voters were agreeing on occurring. Currently, that would be the Ukraine situation and hunters laptop - but now, voila, distraction with abortion and suddenly we have division again.
Idk, we as a nation spawned ourselves into existence with this banger of an opening monolog:
But what lays in front of us as states rights is another example of compromising with the left until we have to shift our values time after time.
In any case, again, the reason it's a hot button topic that we get bludgeoned with is because it's always all talk but nothing done. But that doesn't make the topic any less important. Now it finally seems like we're primed to see something happen, but for all we know it's another head fake and false hope.
I feel you there. Until it's done, there is no reason to celebrate the leak.
Not sure your point of quoting declaration?
Also, maybe I read the next part wrong but we’re you saying You see states rights as compromising with the left?
Yep that’s exactly what hot button issues are - nothing useful will be done. Just like the race card - no one is willing to try and solve the situation, cuz it’s too valuable to play when voting time comes around.
You're on a roll with the good takes. I felt for a long time I was the only one here not frothing at the mouth for "moar babies"
It's worse because I've been considering having one or two daughters but the attitudes on here make me completely uninterested in Even considering the idea and incredibly worried for what world they'd grow up in if Trump/Q team fail and all that is left is deranged libtards and fundamentalist theocrats.
Simile boat my friend and time is ticking as I’m 38 and my wife isn’t far behind me. I don’t want to mention it to her because she is the type who will become consumed easy if leadership (me) wavers at all - but I do have some serious concerns, I also know folks like us having kids is the only possible way to reversing all of this if DS gets toppled even a little bit.
Scary times and I wish I could just go back to how my mind was a few years back when this was all just an occasional conspiracy musing vs being reality. I’m not a big prayer/religious person, but I fuckin pray to whatever is out there that Q team or whoever are real and succeed.
But that's just it, Fren. It's beat to death because most pro lifers are just virtue signaling. If all you are doing is arguing on the internet, then you're just as useless as the ones in other ideologies who do the same. You say shit to feel better and that's it.
Pro life is a lifestyle. We are not a pro life society and the pro life movement is a joke of a movement overall. What we should be doing along with supporting pregnancy centers is working towards removing the burdens of pregnancy. I've seen people here and elsewhere screech to no end, "we must have more babies!" Well, no. We need to fix this joke of a society first. A society that is currently supported by both parents or potential parents working 40+ hours a week to barely make ends meet is NOT a society worth keeping let alone repopulating. Until we can get to a point where women are given the entire 9 months plus or their whole lives to sit back and do nothing except care for children. Until a household consisting of two adults and three dependents can sustain a household on one income, it's not worth saving.
It amuses me how many self proclaimed pro lifers are vehemently against paid maternity leave and the welfare system. But go on and tell me how we need more tax payers on the plantation and how the poor, rich corporations can't sustain it. Bullshit. Stop buying the lies and clutching your pearls. If we're serious about saving America then it's time we talk about things that we've for all the wrong reasons clung to and need to let go of.
Damn, good comment. I have been saying for weeks, no one wants to answer the socialism question. I bring up adoption and no one wants it, "giving up your kid is almost as evil"
And that's besides the point..why should a position based purely on religion be the default position of a country that plays pretend democracy?
Let's just be done with it and call it a theocracy, but if that's what it comes down then what's even the point of Q?
Exactly. If Jesus comes to establish His Kingdom, that's that. We'll figure it out from there.
Until such time, we must challenge the precepts and preserve the Constitution. Even Jesus wasn't above hard evidence and proof. The Southern Baptists love to toss around "dOn'T bE a DoUbTiNg ThOmAs". Okay let's examine. Thomas, being the sane one said unless he could put his finger in the nail holes, the claims Jesus had Risen were all bunk. So what happens? Jesus appears, proves Himself by letting Thomas examine the wounds for himself and then He... Forgives him... gasp I know! He doesn't smote him for lack of faith He forgives Thomas... Interesting so Jesus isn't insecure nor is He above proving Himself contrary to the blind faith teachings of the church.
If Jesus wanted us to have a theocracy He would have left an instruction manual. Instead Rome remained intact for many years after He ascended, with the promise of retuning to establish the Kingdom then. Until such time, Christians are commanded to love their enemies, take care of the poor and a bunch other shit they conveniently ignore while pursuing material things and distractions.
Far be it from me to judge as I too enjoy such things. However a theocracy is not the answer. Even Jesus doesn't want to force the issue. In fact, He never did. The people came to hear Him, something most Christians forget. Of course it doesn't help that Christianity follows Paul's interpretation of Jesus and not so much the Man Himself.
You have to give attention to abortion because it is very closely linked with the Satanic machinery. I dont think any of us really understand all the ways in which thats linked, but one undeniable aspect is the baby part industry and the constant push to get more and more people to abort their babies, and make it easier to abort later and later in the pregnancy.
Essentially, abortion is a key element in the way Cabal operates.
I've been thinking the same thing about slaughterhouses lately...considering we don't need flesh to survive...are they just giant cabal sacrificial buildings?...Especially how every now and then, the bulk slaughterings occur all at once. Both babies and animals have a special kind of innocence within them.
Nah. Let me elaborate. The destruction of farm animals has to do with destruction of food sources and to push everyone towards Cabal rationed nutrition - a big part of the NWO.
The reason why slaughtering animals probably does not play a huge role in Satanic sacrifice is that killing humans is what they get off on. Its really all about the power and my personal view is that Satanism originated as a way for a group to people to convince themselves that they are superior to the rest of the humans.
From a more spiritual view point, offering animals to benevolent God has always been part of the Christianity and Bible goes into great details as to how to do this. It has also always been part of non christian cultures all around the world. However when we talk about Moloch, its human sacrifice attributed to him and specifically infants.
"cabal rationed nutrition" = soylent green
That makes sense on the destruction of food sources, although would that be the case throughout all of the prior years it has happened? Or alterior motive? (Ohhh interestingly enough, in the prior incidents pre pandemic - a lot of their stories were due to some kinds of animal 'disease', some fires were included.)
My opinion is similar to yours although it does (for me) include animals and how they have wanted Dominion over all living beings.
Thank you for sharing your spiritual views! I think this just is where different perspectives have slightly different views! I was raised a catholic and was constantly told about animals not having souls etc. Something always seemed off to me! Everytime I was with animals, I felt a soul presence, always. A mutual understanding and such innocence and curiosity, like children. I broke away from Catholicism and formed my own views afterwards. I saw it as the Garden of Eden part. But then I just had lots of questions like 'would a slaughterhouse be the work of the devil or the work of God?' 'Would God give them the ability to feel pain so that humans can do that to them on a mass scale when they are unable to defend themselves?' (Writing this, for sure the same could be said in regards to children too) Also, I wondered, how comes governments and media would call animal rights activists extremists? Sometimes after being outside a slaughterhouse, youd still hear the screams in your ears. That to me, personally, was far from God. Also the cognitive dissonance people had of say, a cow and a dog led me to believe that surely this must be indoctrinated too! In China people see dogs differently also. A perspective given by Education systems, Media and Governments depending on country, ruler or religion?
The Ag industry, before this time was also one of their biggest money makers, sadly including health care for things like heart disease and such (though there are a number of things in junk food which can also of course cause this). These are just my thoughts on it anyway and from my prior understandings. I understand people have lots of different perspectives.
Oh interesting, I didn't know human sacrifice made many plays in the bible aswell!
Notice how it's completely shifted things away from other issues. Again. The cynic in me believes that this is being done deliberately to cover up...everything. The fallout from Covid, money going missing in Ukraine, the sinking economy, etc.
It's also a quite brazen attempt to separate the Christian Right from the rest of the Right. Now who would benefit from such a thing? Splitting the voter base?
The leftist take on what you said - “That’s just tinfoil hat conspiracy talk”
;)
It's just a snap pole written in February (I believe) and my guess is it was leaked to cause riots and upheaval by the liberal left 🤷??
Yeah similar thoughts as well that this was not a right wing leak - and if it was, then rinos.
Too many folks were questioning across party lines what’s going on with disinfo dept and Ukraine and hunter and economy - they needed a distraction.
On the money. Relieved to see someone here who isn't falling for the party line. Abortion is a distraction no matter who brings it up.