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posted 4 years ago by Zeitreise 4 years ago by Zeitreise +390 / -0
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– MileHiLife 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

More proof that libs literally don't care about truth or facts?

They know they cheated the election- yet don't give a single fk? I've too many examples personally to count. They don't care about 2000 mules, much less 5 million lives aborted?

This is what we're up against. And when the "Truth" Q alludes to finally drops to unite humanity (assumed to be crimes v children) I truly doubt they will privately give 2 fks? But they're good at pretending publicly (see: narcissism)

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– Thanoon 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I’m laughing my butt off because DoorDash just delivered my order two houses over and the map pinpointed it exactly where they dropped it off.

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– Cheesecakecrush 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The technology can't account for stupid drivers XD

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– Aviator 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Imo - the most important reinforcement is not whether it accurate within 100 feet vs. 10inches as most of the fact checks focus on. We don’t know what provider they used and there are different methods of collection, some of which are less accurate than your GPS and some more. Here’s a blip from one provider:

“ The code that collects the location data uses all available sources to geolocate the phone: cell tower signal; GPS signal; WiFi; and Bluetooth. Note that the phone does not need to be connected to either WiFi or Bluetooth in order for it to be triangulated using those methods; the only thing necessary is for the WiFi and Bluetooth sensors, respectively,of the phone to be turned “on”. Because of the extended triangulation methodology, location data collected in this manner are several times more accurate than the methods above.”

The argument in the fact checks is that CELL TOWER data is not precise enough - with an error of something like 10 meters. Saying that GPS/Bluetooth IS accurate doesn’t refute that point. Rather I think:

  • we don’t know which method of tracking was used, most providers use all of them. You can’t assume it was the least accurate type, but even if it was cel tower data, that’s still accurate w/in 30-50 ft.

  • “We’ll it’s an urban area, they may have just been sort of near the drop box” okay, but this is why they filtered only devices with 8x instances. Being 50ft away from 8 different drop boxes over a large geographic area and visiting an NGO removes almost all risk of just picking up someone who happened to be near a drop box

  • “we’ll they could be a bus driver” okay maybe it’s 2000 bus drivers, but then there is video matching. I do want to see the data, it should be easy to tell whether the decides were incidentally driving a lot and passing drop boxes vs. stopping and lingering. This should be auditable and supposedly data is coming.

  • “they didn’t include any video showing the same person at 2 boxes” this is imo the strongest counter point. Since we don’t see the video-matched people visiting multiple drop boxes per person, you CAN make the argument that we need to see the data. This was my biggest gripe with the movie - why didn’t they show the video multiples (we know many vids were deleted and maybe the deletions we’re strategic so that no one visits 2 videod boxes, but that seems like a bit of a stretch). Also why didn’t they name the NGOs or confront any mules?

I think Mules is the most digestible-for-mainstream proof of fraud yet, but not the most robust. It should be the least dismissible - the methodology of a threshold multiple geofences more than offsets the precision within the geofence even if they used the least precise method. The best argument to make is the threshold for multiple visits and the video. The biggest hole is the lack of multiple-mule-vid-captures.

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– DJT4MoreYears 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I think we're not given specific 'mule' names or NPOs because there's probably an ongoing lawsuit happening or about to happen. You don't give the enemy all of your ammo before you're ready. Also, I think possibly they might show more of these mules and NPOs in their data drop, the Ripcord...which they said they are releasing soon. SO we'll see.

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– CokeOrPepe 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You will earn the removal of shake.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0
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– KickingPugilist 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Very well articulated, fren. Many people lack context and just parrot talking points, but your comment addresses the crux of the matter to the t.

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– Patriots_dont_kneel 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

WTF, do they really log all this info? How do I stop them from tracking me? This should he illegal.

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– Aviator 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The main commercial use for finance (I don’t know about advertising) is:

  • Hedge funds: Predicting retail company sales trends by tracking aggregate foot traffic in Best Buys or predicting Tesla unit production by tracking average number of employees in their factories for the quarter

  • Commercial Real Estate: Tracking general demographic trends and traffic around a building

  • Advertisers: I don’t really know how they use it, it think to market geographically relevant ads

The rules are evolving and Europe attempted to implement some privacy protections but basically every app just made you check “Opt In” to use then at all. Technically it is “deidentified” and only attached to a device and anonymized marketing ID. But some ad companies match the marketing IDs of a bunch of different data types (location and other) into one unified profile. And if someone cares to find out which marketing goes to your house every night and your workplace every day, well there’s a good chance that marketing ID is you.

I don’t think the microphone/camera in your phone are passive, but I think it’s best to assume everything else searches and accounts and keystrokes and location and habits are all available if you’re even important enough to draw govt persecution.

Kinda makes you wonder how any high profile murder goes unsolved huh? I guess the powers that be don’t want to jeopardize it over “small things” and risk losing the tool where it is most valuable - hopefully that is in foreign/military ops but probably it is blackmailing pols and manipulating elections to protect big tech.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– solarsavior 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Ha, a few years ago before Christmas we were waiting on a delivery from FedEx or UPS. When she got to the house I told her “We can track you better than Santa Claus”. (I was at the road waiting for her.). Without missing a beat, she responded with “I AM Santa Claus”. Freaking EPIC!

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– introvert17 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

They will continue to excuse things to protect their reality.

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– Greekish 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I just bought a new smartphone (my first ever). I clicked on google maps and was horrified to see that within TWO SECONDS it had registered my EXACT location, then popped up a message - something like "connect to WiFi for better accuracy". Better?

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– MakeCaliRedAgain_202 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, the map function opens your location services, generally. You can play around with the settings and probably turn that off, if you care.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– Monomial 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Understand how location tracking works. The Google library uses a Kalman filter with different location sources to estimate your true location using many sources all with a known error profile. Every source you add, even ones that are less accurate, help to reduce the aggregate error in your location estimate. It is a statistical calculation.

And yes, WiFi can give better accuracy than GPS:

Whenever you turn on Google Location services, a map of all WiFi hotspots is constantly being transmitted back to Google along with your calculated location using all available sources. Google stores all this information and over time generates a map of every WiFi hotspot throughout the world. Because of the huge number of samples they have from many different devices, they can geolocate a hotspot very precisely. With these hotspot location maps, they can triangulate anyone's position, often times more accurately than GPS.

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– John_Mac_n_Cheese 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Map location checks out...

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– CokeOrPepe 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well, what is the logical explanation of them being in the same area of the drop boxes?

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– Cpleb 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Gender fluid, logic fluid, truth fluid

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The left is happy if cheating occurred as long as their guy is in. I'm happy if all the cheats get hanged to bring justice to their treason.

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– Podger 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

People are forgetting that DoorDash, Uber etc. drivers install an app which has GPS permissions. Their exact location is shared with Corporate servers which updates the map showing where they are. They aren't relying on cell towers to show where the driver is.

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– NooneFor2024II 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Said by the very same people who are avid users of Pokemon Go and apps that show other users in their area.

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