I saw this telegram post purportedly from Patrick Byrne last night on the chans. I have no idea when he said this. If it was last night or months/years ago. I'm very interested in what people would say in response to this. I don't have any idea how or where to begin to pick this apart. There are so many reasons this is inaccurate but I cannot come up with a coherent disection.
Byrne's statement:
"Q is a psyop. Psyops use truth and lies in such a way that it elicits a response from the observer. From my perspective, Q has set up a true Hegelian Dialectic by waking and mobilizing the sleeping giant (the "righteous" right) against the Deep State (the "evil left).
What is the fight over? Control of the financial reset. No matter what happens, whether the war is won by Q or the Deep State, the financial system will be reset and the winner gets to control the reset.
What if you don't care to be part of this squabble? What if you just want to walk away from the fight? No, neither of these sides will let you take away control of you. control is the ultimate goal of both sides.
I say it all the time...the right wing(Q) and the left wing (DS) are attached to the same bird. By opposing each other they carry the bird in a single direction, together. This is a Hegelian Dialectic."
Who gives a shit what Patrick Byrne or Lin Wood say about Q?
What have they ever done for us?
Also, it’s entirely possible that they are white hats, and their job is to create more confusion… fog of war
Both of those 2 are highly successful at creating confusion.
And frankly, how the hell is patrick byrne relevant in any of this? Why the hell was he meeting at the white house with Trump and officials? Aside from his checking account, how does he have more to offer on election fraud than I do? This has never made sense to me.
Right
Same with the Pillow guy. I love him, but how in the hell are we supposed to think he had the proof of election rigging? That always made me laugh.
I think he's playing a role.... white hat, meant to be a mouthpiece and obfuscate. He was like an opening act, meant to take up time before the main event.
Mike is doing a lot behind the scenes to help the election integrity issue. He funded Lara Logan's new doc Selection code. (out July 18th.)
Is he playing the Shakespearean fool role? Although he is far more likeable than the typical fool in those plays.
And in response to why give a shit about either?
Well, when I watch a play or a movie, certain actors do not take the stage by accident. They were written in there for a reason. These guys didn't just crash the party and take the spotlight on their own. Sometimes, its just a bad script and there was no real reason to put them in to begin with. But these guys have been featured in this shit show far more so than an accidental brain fart when writing. So I do not ignore these people even if I am bothered or confused by what they say or do.
Yeah my hunch is fog of war and taking up air time, until the snow started heating up.
Well I've always accepted the idea that Q was a psy-op, but in a good way. It was a way to waken people, and gave birth (or at least nudged along) the Great Awakening when it was in its nascent stage... not fully formed yet, but wanting to be born. Q was the push needed to coalesce general discontent into a full blown Great Awakening. And the awakening continues to manifest and spread.
That's what I have always thought.
I suppose you have to call it a psyop. That is unavoidable. Because it meets the definition entirely. I guess I avoid this reality because psyop has such negative connotations to me. We don't typically discuss psyops that have good motivations behind them. And I do not know of any that were conducted for this purpose previously. So I do not associate psyops with positive feelings.
Something I've found out about this curious species we belong to, Homo sapiens, is that collectively we are not an entirely rational species. Individually we can hold thoughts in our minds, sometimes even contrasting thoughts, weight them, test them, and come to a near approximation of the truth.
But as a whole, the human species is largely irrational, lazy, and doesn't like to dwell much on details, background, context, and other such things in the thinking process.
No, we want to be told STORIES. It probably stems from the oral tradition of telling stories around campfires for most of our existence. A "narrative" that contains all the elements of what is being passed down. Humans respond to a narrative... a story.
And it depends on which narrative -- which story -- you believe that guides your actions. The Left has their narrative about America, the Constitution, our racist past, the SCOTUS decisions... etc. It's a false narrative in my humble opinion.
We have our narratives too.... national pride, meritocracy, fair play, live by the rules...and it seems to have worked very well. That's why the Left hates our narrative, it is an affront to their false narrative.
So Q, in essence, told us a "story" ... a true story, peppered here and their with needed disinformation at times, but a story narrative that we needed to discover our own truth devoid of MSM lies and DS corruption.
And the narrative took root, and has evolved ever-so-slowly into this thing we now call The Great Awakening. That is what I have believed from since almost day 1 when I first got on board the Q Train, in November 2017, the month after Q started posting.
It does not bother me in the least that the posts came out in the form of a narrative, because they fit so well with things we already knew or suspected. The posts gave gravitas to what we were sensing and knew in our hearts. So like children sitting around a tribal campfire deep in the forest, we listened to these stories, the whole narrative, and out of it did some growing up and began to face some harsh truths.
And here we are today, looking back at the past few years and thinking, "Damn! What a ride!" And looking forward to the ride ahead.
I love this narrative... this story. It helped awaken me and so many others.
Ive wondered this off and on. And honestly, even if this was the case. It will only work until one side wins. And in this country, if you have been walking the right down a plank, God save you. The end wont be pretty.
Sometimes you can say things that are true and still be practicing deception.
What Patrick Byrne is conveniently leaving out is the old Hegelian Dialectic, the illusion of the All Caring Dems versus the Mean Old Republicans has been displaced. This is the dialectic that was pulling the bird in the same direction.
Patrick made his fortune under that old dialectic. He was a participant who did work for the FBI. He rubbed elbows with Senators and claimed he was given blanket immunity from Arlen Specter.
So yes, the Q Psyop specifically wanted to displace the old dialectic. It wanted to expose the Uniparty. It showed us the RINOS are controlled opposition and more R’s are RINOS than we thought. It showed us the we are being manipulated into the NWO’s Great Reset.
Think about it. If Q has established a new dialectic the opposition is the Uniparty. And the truth we are being led to includes ideas like Patriots Have No Skin Color, we are more United than we realize, and it is time power is returned to the people. The accompanying financial reset is in opposition to being relegated to serfdom under the Great Reset.
Ok I’ll dive right in—I don’t trust Patrick at all! CEO of Overstock for 20 years & caught dating a Russian spy (honey pot?). He struck me as trying to sound important so he’s not going to sway me. However if we’ve learned anything from Q, it’s to listen to everything & through research determine for ourselves what is & isn’t true. The very last thing the DS would want is for the people to research information FOR OURSELVES! Truth exists and those who search databases, read books, talk to others and simply OBSERVE the world around them will find it!!!! The DS, the 1%, the Satanist… want sheep! Somebody slap Patrick Byrne please. FOS (full of sh*t).
Sure is hard these days to decide from which double-speak to sift the grains of truth. Grey has many shades. Discernment has never been more critical and some people are only now learning how flexible one's mind needs to remain while a plan is coming together. There is no way we are seeing the tapestry from above it, we see only the underside, and among the thousand threads, a picture can barely be guessed at. How anyone gets through this without burning faith, I do not know, but it is what keeps my family and I tethered. That and my very real trust in Trump, as the beacon of hope that he is.
Lin Wood said Ron DeSantis trafficks children the other day....
Flynn says Q is bullshit.
Just adding to conversation.
I didn't see Lin say that about DeSantis. That is a claim met with skepticism from me. No substance or evidence was offered?
On the other hand, this DeSantis ball washing is concerning. I do not trust him. He is unproven in spite of mostly stellar performance as governor. But why don't I trust him? If he is so "based" and trustworthy, why the hell has he not used his Florida Legislature to ban electronic voting? If he demanded it, he'd get the bill within 48 hours. So why would you fail to restore true integrity to Florida elections when you are not obstructed by anything to do this?
Flynn is also someone who makes statements without evidence. For a guy who ought to have an entire library of fucked up shit he could present, he has presented nothing. That is confusing to me.
Never liked him or believed him. That aside........ this argument is weak and lame. Yes, it's perceived as a battle between right and left when it's really between good and evil, establishment and outsiders. But that has nothing to do with Q, whether Q is a psy-op or not and makes zero argument for Q being in any way about control yet he makes the central point of his argument .... control. Not even worth thinking about specious claptrap like this.
What I see is a lot of disciples waking the masses up (redpilling) with all the signs of the return of their messiah (Trump). Most can't discern how they are being manipulated.
Then there's very few who are doing the same. Only difference is they're showing the the signs of the True Messiah's return.
I pray more people wake up to what's really going on before it's too late.
Q is a psyop. But one to wake people up. An apex is coming. We are heading to a cliff. Nothing can stop it. Where we go one we go all. What happened when we go over that cliff is either the great awakening or the great reset.
Future proves past.
Nobody would pay any attention at all to Q if this were not the case.
But, playing the devils advocate, how does this disprove what he said? He isn't saying that none of it is real. He's saying that we aren't going to like why this is occurring. Because we think it is a good motive, and really it is just a shift in control of us. Which, if you asked me whether I wanted someone else controlling me or I wanted to control myself, obviously I would answer in the latter
Byrne's statement:
"Q is a psyop. Psyops use truth and lies..."
Byrne's isn't telling us anything that Q hasn't told us already:
Disinformation is necessary.
The rest of what Byrne says is all BS. Look to the Bible:
A House Divided
(Matthew 12:22–30; Luke 11:14–23)
20Then Jesus went home, and once again a crowd gathered, so that He and His disciples could not even eat. 21When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, “He is out of His mind.”
22And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”
23So Jesus called them together and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan? 24If a kingdom is divided against itself, it cannot stand. 25If a house is divided against itself, it cannot stand. 26 And if Satan is divided and rises against himself, he cannot stand; his end has come. 27Indeed, no one can enter a strong man’s house to steal his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man. Then he can plunder his house.
I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying. Are you pointing out that his bird analogy is accurate, but it is unavoidable because of our natural state of an enduring fight between good and evil? Or did I read too much into this?