Tithing doesnt have to be money. I give a little money to my church however I am very involved with things there. My church is awesome though. I know not all churches are like that.
We are a very small home church, we contribute all money to help out in our town & the local towns around us: local rehabs that run on donations, people that are hospitalized, people whose homes that have been damaged / Destroyed by fire or tornado, etc., funeral expenses. We’ve also given small scholarships to local needy kids starting college, any bit helps with books or a laptop. We go to the utility companies & help pay for people struggling to pay their bill before they get disconnected. During covid we donated to people who were jobless. We help pay for doctor’s bills when someone is sick & can’t pay it all on their own. These are just some of the ideas where God has prompted us to tithe. We might save money for weeks before God highlights where we need to tithe.
Excellent. We do a combination of both. Ten percent to church and then wherever we see need. God does provide. You CANNOT out give God. You get it back- shaken down, pressed together and overflowing blessings from heaven. God said: Prove me in this!
churches used to feed the poor, teach the children, and help the sick in the community. Now the government has taken over those institutions and turned it into a money laundering hole, and we have these mega churches which are literally corporations for profit, pastors flying around in jets and what not, its really a shame
If you go to a local church, you should support it. Tithing is an Old Testament law. New Testament set no bound on how much you give. A tenth is Biblical but not mandatory!
This is why small churches are better. Find a church group as small and tight-knit as a family, and ask to belong with them. This will make you stronger than anything you do on your own.
I’ll never give up tithing. Tithe to a church you relate to, I do my tithes once a month to an online church I like, sometimes switching to another online preacher/church.
Ever since I started tithing since 2014, I’ve had numerous blessings in my life. God taught me through tithing how much control he really has, where he can direct peoples steps, and change the hearts, including yourself without you even knowing. Hence why he can increase or decrease people to your business or trade, or guide you where to invest, or just increase your luck. Whatever way he wants to bless you.
Malachi 3:10 KJV Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Have you ever noticed this is the only verse in the Bible where God wants you to prove him? I don’t know any other verse in the Bible where people proving God was a good thing.
Anyone can do what they like, I make no boast in tithing, God allows me to keep 90%. But I will boast in his promises and blessings that God is true to his Word, and he will pour out blessings that you won’t have enough room to receive them.
Study the Bible, God gives out the portions and blessings in this life, and also takes them away. Even the famous story of King Nebuchadnezzar turning into a beast for 7 years was all about God showing him he got nothing by his own hand but it was God who gave him all his wealth and kingdom.
And remember wealth is just one blessing. Count all the blessings in life, whether it’s increase in understanding, wisdom, and knowledge, and growing closer to God.
Acts 20:35 KJV I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.
This is interesting to me because I always had this gut feeling of "I understand giving 10% but why does it have to be my church? Why is my pastor so much more special. Why can't I just give 100% of myself and my spirit to being kind to others and doing things to help my community."
I feel like God wouldn't want us to give 10% to a church that is misusing funds anyways and most of the time bigger churches won't be audited by its congregation.
I agree with this. i helped a woman pay her bills, mortgage for a time so she would not get behind and lose her house. she was forced out of her job because she would not get jabbed. she has a medical condition that should be honored as the reason why. and she is literally the best in the world at what she does. they won’t budge even if things have changed. she getting back on her feet. but it’s been hard.
she will win in court. but it’s a long road to get there. they hope people cave in and surrender, rather than walk this road through hades. i tell her that she has to survive. scream “i’m still here” and own their asses in court. no matter how long it takes. the wheels of justice in this life turn slowly.
it’s extraordinary to watch “normal” people take the helm of evil and madness. today you can “kill” another human without drawing blood. it’s far worse, i think.
i question my self with this. why am i doing this? i am blessed at the moment to help. and hope god forgives me for things i have done when i was blind. feels selfish. it’s a weird struggle through this self doubt.
i pray for strength, because this is not an easy path.
Thank you for stepping up to the plate and helping. How can we sit back and demand that people stand their ground, but at the same time, expect them to do it alone. God bless you for being part of the solution.
Agreed. As Christians, we are under a Biblical mandate to give offerings to the church, the first fruits of our labors. Sure it pays the pastors and keeps the lights on, but the money is used for missions and outreach to those not saved and for benevolence. Saying not to give to your church is ridiculous and selfish and to deny all God has given us.
Um, the church isn't God. Handing out money to a pastor is not a guarantee it's being used properly. If my church shut down without a peep during the plandemic, and their priorities are building a new facility or sending money out of the country (as far as we can tell), when we've got members losing their homes because of medical bills or businesses closing, or vets who need help, recovering addicts, pregnant girls who need to get to a safe situation to raise their kids or put them up for adoption, etc, then I'm putting my money to stabilize our community first. If the church isn't listening then I have a hard time believing it's doing God's work.
Handing over money blindly doesn't absolve any of us of our responsibility of stewardship. Just like handing it over to the government, who replaced charitable works of churches, absolves is of anything.
I remember the movie Stigmata, where the guy in there says "the kingdom of God is inside you, and not contained within walls of stone" or something to that effect.
Find a small church (or even middle-sized) that is autonomous.
In other words, ensure they are not part of a large denomination that has a board of directors at the very top. All the evil ones need to do is co-opt those people and they can affect/infect the entire denomination and every church within it.
I disagree. First you have to find a church you 85% gel with after praying and even fasting to hear the Lord's guidance regarding where you should be fellowshipping.
Second, if you don't support your church financially your church will close. It is as simple as that.
Third, do you buy fast food? Do you have a cable subscription? Do you buy things you don't need? If you do any of these and grumble about supporting your church, you have a problem with obedience in giving.
Yeah, I fell for doing that for about 20 years. Kept giving to the ASPCA and the Humane Society of the United States. Finally stopped. It is a mixed bag of emotions for me. I always think of that one quote [I think it was Mark Twain, not sure] that says that "man is measured by how he treats his animals" or something to that effect. It absolutely tears me apart when I see those commercials regarding abused animals, especially dogs. There are always stories about animal abuse in the news, from wanton cruelty to overcrowded shelters and the like, and I wish I could do more, but the money sent to these organizations rarely goes to helping animals, it goes to line the pockets of the boards of directors. Makes me sick. If I had a billion dollars I would build huge shelters, hire vetted animal-loving staff, and tend to our furry friends until they move one. Dogs are the most beautiful creatures on the planet and deserve our love and care forever.
Like Sletcha said. In the book of genesis is the first tithe and it was Abraham giving a 10th of all his possessions to Jesus Christ incarnate as Melchizedek. I agree with your sentiments though, sibling.
Yes, I was going to post about that, but Melchizedek was king as well as high priest and treated his people well, that's why they fought as mercenaries.
Bringing tithes and offerings to the storehouse because then it's there in times of need. Melchizedek was not only the religious leader, but the king helping his people.
Today anyone good at speaking in front of crowds for 20 min. can earn a handsome living. The bogus preachers have driven away lots of good people.
As some have suggested a small church is better... one where the preacher doesn't own it like a business even more so.
That would be an ideal solution that I believe we could achieve if we as a church uniformly obeyed the scriptures. I like your thoughts in the Holy Ghost fren. God bless you in Jesus name amen.
Tithing doesnt have to be money. I give a little money to my church however I am very involved with things there. My church is awesome though. I know not all churches are like that.
Did they close during covid?
Only for a couple days. I think we only missed 1 Sunday
Ok, then it's good
Are they a 501(c)3 organization?
Then nope.
They're a quasi-government organization and are forced into behaving in a certain way AKA image of the beast.
Leaving the beast system means nothing if you carry the doctrine and practice with you.
We are a very small home church, we contribute all money to help out in our town & the local towns around us: local rehabs that run on donations, people that are hospitalized, people whose homes that have been damaged / Destroyed by fire or tornado, etc., funeral expenses. We’ve also given small scholarships to local needy kids starting college, any bit helps with books or a laptop. We go to the utility companies & help pay for people struggling to pay their bill before they get disconnected. During covid we donated to people who were jobless. We help pay for doctor’s bills when someone is sick & can’t pay it all on their own. These are just some of the ideas where God has prompted us to tithe. We might save money for weeks before God highlights where we need to tithe.
Excellent. We do a combination of both. Ten percent to church and then wherever we see need. God does provide. You CANNOT out give God. You get it back- shaken down, pressed together and overflowing blessings from heaven. God said: Prove me in this!
Great news, and good works!
churches used to feed the poor, teach the children, and help the sick in the community. Now the government has taken over those institutions and turned it into a money laundering hole, and we have these mega churches which are literally corporations for profit, pastors flying around in jets and what not, its really a shame
Yes, and people shovel the cash to them. Some are quite demonic too! Kenneth Copland, Benny Hinn... They make a circus out of God.
My church still does all that.
Getting harder to find tho.
If you go to a local church, you should support it. Tithing is an Old Testament law. New Testament set no bound on how much you give. A tenth is Biblical but not mandatory!
This is why small churches are better. Find a church group as small and tight-knit as a family, and ask to belong with them. This will make you stronger than anything you do on your own.
I’ll never give up tithing. Tithe to a church you relate to, I do my tithes once a month to an online church I like, sometimes switching to another online preacher/church.
Ever since I started tithing since 2014, I’ve had numerous blessings in my life. God taught me through tithing how much control he really has, where he can direct peoples steps, and change the hearts, including yourself without you even knowing. Hence why he can increase or decrease people to your business or trade, or guide you where to invest, or just increase your luck. Whatever way he wants to bless you.
Have you ever noticed this is the only verse in the Bible where God wants you to prove him? I don’t know any other verse in the Bible where people proving God was a good thing.
Anyone can do what they like, I make no boast in tithing, God allows me to keep 90%. But I will boast in his promises and blessings that God is true to his Word, and he will pour out blessings that you won’t have enough room to receive them.
Study the Bible, God gives out the portions and blessings in this life, and also takes them away. Even the famous story of King Nebuchadnezzar turning into a beast for 7 years was all about God showing him he got nothing by his own hand but it was God who gave him all his wealth and kingdom.
And remember wealth is just one blessing. Count all the blessings in life, whether it’s increase in understanding, wisdom, and knowledge, and growing closer to God.
God Bless.
This is interesting to me because I always had this gut feeling of "I understand giving 10% but why does it have to be my church? Why is my pastor so much more special. Why can't I just give 100% of myself and my spirit to being kind to others and doing things to help my community."
I feel like God wouldn't want us to give 10% to a church that is misusing funds anyways and most of the time bigger churches won't be audited by its congregation.
"tithe where you are spiritually fed..."
I agree with this. i helped a woman pay her bills, mortgage for a time so she would not get behind and lose her house. she was forced out of her job because she would not get jabbed. she has a medical condition that should be honored as the reason why. and she is literally the best in the world at what she does. they won’t budge even if things have changed. she getting back on her feet. but it’s been hard.
she will win in court. but it’s a long road to get there. they hope people cave in and surrender, rather than walk this road through hades. i tell her that she has to survive. scream “i’m still here” and own their asses in court. no matter how long it takes. the wheels of justice in this life turn slowly.
it’s extraordinary to watch “normal” people take the helm of evil and madness. today you can “kill” another human without drawing blood. it’s far worse, i think.
i question my self with this. why am i doing this? i am blessed at the moment to help. and hope god forgives me for things i have done when i was blind. feels selfish. it’s a weird struggle through this self doubt.
i pray for strength, because this is not an easy path.
Thank you for stepping up to the plate and helping. How can we sit back and demand that people stand their ground, but at the same time, expect them to do it alone. God bless you for being part of the solution.
I have never seen a Brinks truck or a UHaul following a hearse. You can't take it with you.
If we don't tithe to the church they won't be able to keep the doors open. Not saying don't help in other ways but this isn't the right way
Agreed. As Christians, we are under a Biblical mandate to give offerings to the church, the first fruits of our labors. Sure it pays the pastors and keeps the lights on, but the money is used for missions and outreach to those not saved and for benevolence. Saying not to give to your church is ridiculous and selfish and to deny all God has given us.
Um, the church isn't God. Handing out money to a pastor is not a guarantee it's being used properly. If my church shut down without a peep during the plandemic, and their priorities are building a new facility or sending money out of the country (as far as we can tell), when we've got members losing their homes because of medical bills or businesses closing, or vets who need help, recovering addicts, pregnant girls who need to get to a safe situation to raise their kids or put them up for adoption, etc, then I'm putting my money to stabilize our community first. If the church isn't listening then I have a hard time believing it's doing God's work.
Handing over money blindly doesn't absolve any of us of our responsibility of stewardship. Just like handing it over to the government, who replaced charitable works of churches, absolves is of anything.
I remember the movie Stigmata, where the guy in there says "the kingdom of God is inside you, and not contained within walls of stone" or something to that effect.
Whoa whoa whoa there. The ten percent was for the church AND ITS WORKS, right? They don't need all of it just to keep their doors open.
Also, the flock has a say in which ones should keep their doors open, too.
If the buildings are crazy expensive and the pastor is extravagant, while the surrounding people in need are not being helped, I'd change my giving.
Great comment!!
Yup, I'm thrifty, not cheap, so I'd like to see as close to 100% doing good as possible. Americans are very generous and lots of people exploit it.
Giving = Receiving. What you give, you get back 10 fold in one form or another.
I Never give to Churches....! I Give as my Heart/Instinct Inspires me to.....
Find a small church (or even middle-sized) that is autonomous.
In other words, ensure they are not part of a large denomination that has a board of directors at the very top. All the evil ones need to do is co-opt those people and they can affect/infect the entire denomination and every church within it.
Really? You are going to briefly instruct people here on how and where to give their donations?
People are lazy, but want that self-virtue signal of donating and forget. If you can't find someone needing help then I don't know what to say.
Big charities often spend 10% on the actual cause and 90% on overhead. Since I lived abroad in a third-world country, I give there...
Food banks work well to keep communities fed and therefore safe.
I disagree. First you have to find a church you 85% gel with after praying and even fasting to hear the Lord's guidance regarding where you should be fellowshipping.
Second, if you don't support your church financially your church will close. It is as simple as that.
Third, do you buy fast food? Do you have a cable subscription? Do you buy things you don't need? If you do any of these and grumble about supporting your church, you have a problem with obedience in giving.
Yeah, I fell for doing that for about 20 years. Kept giving to the ASPCA and the Humane Society of the United States. Finally stopped. It is a mixed bag of emotions for me. I always think of that one quote [I think it was Mark Twain, not sure] that says that "man is measured by how he treats his animals" or something to that effect. It absolutely tears me apart when I see those commercials regarding abused animals, especially dogs. There are always stories about animal abuse in the news, from wanton cruelty to overcrowded shelters and the like, and I wish I could do more, but the money sent to these organizations rarely goes to helping animals, it goes to line the pockets of the boards of directors. Makes me sick. If I had a billion dollars I would build huge shelters, hire vetted animal-loving staff, and tend to our furry friends until they move one. Dogs are the most beautiful creatures on the planet and deserve our love and care forever.
I have always spayed or neutered my pets, its a shame what goes on.
Like Sletcha said. In the book of genesis is the first tithe and it was Abraham giving a 10th of all his possessions to Jesus Christ incarnate as Melchizedek. I agree with your sentiments though, sibling.
Yes, I was going to post about that, but Melchizedek was king as well as high priest and treated his people well, that's why they fought as mercenaries.
Bringing tithes and offerings to the storehouse because then it's there in times of need. Melchizedek was not only the religious leader, but the king helping his people.
Today anyone good at speaking in front of crowds for 20 min. can earn a handsome living. The bogus preachers have driven away lots of good people.
As some have suggested a small church is better... one where the preacher doesn't own it like a business even more so.
That would be an ideal solution that I believe we could achieve if we as a church uniformly obeyed the scriptures. I like your thoughts in the Holy Ghost fren. God bless you in Jesus name amen.