And this is the problem when people dismiss the WEF Globalists as merely 'mad' for saying ban cars, ban energy etc. Because meanwhile, somewhere around the world every day, a petty tyrant in miniature does something that incrementally progresses these ordnances in their neck of the woods. Even though you do a jigsaw puzzle one piece at a time, no matter how long it takes you will eventually end up with a completed whole picture.
Unless of course some of the pieces are misplaced, or in this scenario more hopefully, destroyed. And the sooner that happens, the sooner it guarantees there's never any chance of the jigsaw being completed.
Sheesh. People used to have to hide their weed in different places so the feds wouldn't find them. Now the weed is grown freely in your yard, and it's the veggies you have to hide. What a fucking clown world.
My wife watches YouTubers that have 5+ acres and have large gardens and tons of farm animals. I think to myself - why do the feds allow this info to be shared so freely? Maybe the agenda is to allow the farming to occur so they can get everyone registered. Once registered- you can be controlled.
Homestead does seem like a great idea. If you have residual income to pay taxes and buy stuff that you can't grow or build, you'd be set for life. Plus you have vastly superior food to eat every day, as well as getting regular exercise tending to your land. I'd be plenty happy with 1/3 acre, as it's just me. Do some small scale farming, dig a well, use a geothermal A/C unit, and use solar and hydro with plenty of batteries, and you're completely off the grid.
At this stage, stopping the relatively small number of people who can sustain themselves really isn't important to them. Besides, even these people surely rely on the system for at least some components of their lifestyle.
The information being out there isn't really affecting their plan. You can plainly see this by just looking at the number of people who don't grow their own food...
That's true, but my main point was that even the tiny minority of people who have the space and knowledge to grow their own food and actually do it are still controlled sufficiently through other means. Hardly anybody is actually free.
SHTF isn't a binary. It won't just happen one day. They know that's not effective, because if people are set on fighting back, they can. Instead, it happens slowly so nobody knows when to fight back, and those who decide it's time are individualized.
I didn’t say that people are currently being forced to register, but with the direction we’re headed in, would you be at all surprised to see it happen in the near future?
Farms are being required to register if they participate in any federal contract. We obtained our high tunnel through a USDA federal contract, and as part of that agreement we had to obtain water rights and register our 1/2 acre farm. Our 5-year contract ended last month, but I'm sure they still have the information on us. Our thought at the time was that having a registered farm would help us to prove that land was being commercially farmed if the local tax man wanted to tax us for earning income from it.
why do the feds allow this info to be shared so freely
Why would it matter, you're still dependant on outside supply chains and most don't and will never have the land to grow anything of reasonable quantity.
Register your safe deposit box that contains gold for a tax credit.
Register your solar panels for a tax credit.
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https://archive.ph/lLeZ3 It's not a program for registering your personal garden. But think about the intended/unintended consequences of things like this.
Mmmmm one more government edict that I can ignore. Did you guys have on your bingo card gardening without government permission becoming the new punk rock scene?
Don't Fall for the Trap, keep your home garden as private as ALL your valuable possessions.
They want/may force you to share that food.
After you register [don't!] they are going to tell everybody where you are:
Affiliate People’s Garden locations will be indicated on a map on the USDA website, featured in USDA communications, and provided with a People’s Garden sign.
The hungry horde will descend on you like locusts when this thing we are living through goes sideways.
I am seeing panicked responses from people who have already registered and realize they've just given the gvt permission to rob them.
I received a survey/census last year saying, BY LAW, I have to tell the USDA if I've done anything on my land that could be categorized as farming. Piss off government.
small-scale agriculture projects in rural, suburban and urban areas can be recognized as a “People’s Garden”
definition of small-scale agriculture projects:
what is small-scale farming? Small-scale farming describes a farming method using very little land (usually around 1-10 acres) and often using very little to no expensive technologies. Small-scale farming is closely tied with more sustainable agricultural methods including Hobby, organic, biodynamic and permacultural (etc.) farms.
While I agree it’s stupid to register your garden with the govt, the actual write up you linked seems quite positive (of course they can and will turn around and use this against us). The article says USDA supports diversified food supply and local gardening and educating people to grow their own food. Also near the end it had the number 17 🤔
I don't tell the government anything. They don't even know how big my house is now or how many outbuildings I have. With evergreens, most of my yard doesn't show up on Google maps. I built my own huge greenhouse myself, and didn't get permission from anyone.
There is also stealth gardening. You can plant things along the edges of woods and ditch banks along roads. Most people can't recognize food plants if they aren't planted in neat rows. That's why a food forest is a good idea. Make your back yard look like an unkempt jungle. Most people don't know I have figs, blueberries, and grapes in the backyard.
You can also plant decorative food plants in front of your house. People don't know that you can eat those decorative lettuce type plants or those bright colored peppers. Rose hips are full of vitamin C. The yaupon bush is the only native American source for caffeine. Just don't drink too much of the tea at one time (scientific name Ilex vomitoria).
My bet? They are going to try and offer money for community gardens and urban farms as some kind of food initiative "for people of color" or "disadvantaged communities" so on. Which there is probably a LOT of money to grab if you know how to do their paperwork.
The trade off, they know about your garden, so if they decided you have to suddenly meet commercial USDA criteria, or pay taxes, yah...
So this one is on you. Do you want federal money to grow your garden in exchange to being subject to their dominion. Probably not for a private garden.
That said, absolutely yes get permits from your local county or city if you do go about making a private, personal food garden. Too many horror stories out there about pencil-neck bureaucrats sending bulldozer teams to raze somebody's suburban garden because Karen down the street complained it will ruin their property value to have anything but lawn behind your house. But if you got a permit from the local authority, they will enjoy telling Karen to pound sand, see permit, she can go fuck herself, to honor her request would be work they don't wanna do, like going to court to challenge your permit. Because the inverse is true if you don't have a permit, you become the easier one to fuck over because calling the city workers to rip up your garden is easier than putting up with that bitch Karen calling in, or walking in, every Thursday after she gets her nails done to bitch about you.
After Covid, why would I do this for any agency? I wouldn't have done this before...but after? All these groups were warned that the Covid Op would come with a big price.
More than 25 food processing plants burned down because they knew where they were. Naturally, the next step is to know where the gardens are. In the end, you will eat the Bugz.
This program is for group, community public gardens, not individual private gardens, but knowing that would require reading the article and not just the headline before jumping to conclusions.
Frightening honestly
And this is the problem when people dismiss the WEF Globalists as merely 'mad' for saying ban cars, ban energy etc. Because meanwhile, somewhere around the world every day, a petty tyrant in miniature does something that incrementally progresses these ordnances in their neck of the woods. Even though you do a jigsaw puzzle one piece at a time, no matter how long it takes you will eventually end up with a completed whole picture.
Unless of course some of the pieces are misplaced, or in this scenario more hopefully, destroyed. And the sooner that happens, the sooner it guarantees there's never any chance of the jigsaw being completed.
Sheesh. People used to have to hide their weed in different places so the feds wouldn't find them. Now the weed is grown freely in your yard, and it's the veggies you have to hide. What a fucking clown world.
nailed it!
Nope, even places where weed is legal you typically cant grow without a permit and even if you can you're limited to a very small number of plants.
I believe it is up to six per adult with a max of 12 in AZ for Rec use. Even if you are cultivating autoflowers, you could have a substantial yield.
My wife watches YouTubers that have 5+ acres and have large gardens and tons of farm animals. I think to myself - why do the feds allow this info to be shared so freely? Maybe the agenda is to allow the farming to occur so they can get everyone registered. Once registered- you can be controlled.
Homestead does seem like a great idea. If you have residual income to pay taxes and buy stuff that you can't grow or build, you'd be set for life. Plus you have vastly superior food to eat every day, as well as getting regular exercise tending to your land. I'd be plenty happy with 1/3 acre, as it's just me. Do some small scale farming, dig a well, use a geothermal A/C unit, and use solar and hydro with plenty of batteries, and you're completely off the grid.
This is interesting too - earth ships. https://www.earthshipglobal.com/
If all you need is 1/3 acre, why aren't you doing it right now? Serious question.
You could collect rain water and just not tell anyone. If there's a water table a reasonable distance down, you can dig/drill a well.
Decent property around where I'm at is not that expensive yet. Unfortunately I currently can't afford it.
I've got family members who want to do a business together. .y suggestion is a family food production farm that sells the over production locally.
At this stage, stopping the relatively small number of people who can sustain themselves really isn't important to them. Besides, even these people surely rely on the system for at least some components of their lifestyle.
The information being out there isn't really affecting their plan. You can plainly see this by just looking at the number of people who don't grow their own food...
That's true, but my main point was that even the tiny minority of people who have the space and knowledge to grow their own food and actually do it are still controlled sufficiently through other means. Hardly anybody is actually free.
SHTF isn't a binary. It won't just happen one day. They know that's not effective, because if people are set on fighting back, they can. Instead, it happens slowly so nobody knows when to fight back, and those who decide it's time are individualized.
True. It takes some work to run a small farm
I didn’t say that people are currently being forced to register, but with the direction we’re headed in, would you be at all surprised to see it happen in the near future?
Farms are being required to register if they participate in any federal contract. We obtained our high tunnel through a USDA federal contract, and as part of that agreement we had to obtain water rights and register our 1/2 acre farm. Our 5-year contract ended last month, but I'm sure they still have the information on us. Our thought at the time was that having a registered farm would help us to prove that land was being commercially farmed if the local tax man wanted to tax us for earning income from it.
Why would it matter, you're still dependant on outside supply chains and most don't and will never have the land to grow anything of reasonable quantity.
A roadmap for the horde when the infrastructure collapses.
You aren't kidding.
No thanks, Would be great info for chem trail runs too.
Because all the satellite images wouldn't be enough to tell who has a garden?
Three words come to mind, but two of them are profanity and I'm trying to cut back on that, so I'm just going to go with NO.
KEK
People's Garden? Sounds very communist-like.
Next they’ll be calling a rose garden an assault garden because it has thorns 🤣
Surround your house with yucca plants! Ouch!
Register your safe deposit box that contains gold for a tax credit.
Register your solar panels for a tax credit.
🖕
https://archive.ph/lLeZ3 It's not a program for registering your personal garden. But think about the intended/unintended consequences of things like this.
Mmmmm one more government edict that I can ignore. Did you guys have on your bingo card gardening without government permission becoming the new punk rock scene?
A garden? I have weeds...with a few tomatoes, peppers and corn popping up between them.
Don't Fall for the Trap, keep your home garden as private as ALL your valuable possessions.
They want/may force you to share that food.
After you register [don't!] they are going to tell everybody where you are:
Affiliate People’s Garden locations will be indicated on a map on the USDA website, featured in USDA communications, and provided with a People’s Garden sign.
The hungry horde will descend on you like locusts when this thing we are living through goes sideways.
I am seeing panicked responses from people who have already registered and realize they've just given the gvt permission to rob them.
Who would sign up to make anything they own "the people's"?
I received a survey/census last year saying, BY LAW, I have to tell the USDA if I've done anything on my land that could be categorized as farming. Piss off government.
You realize they already know what you have if its visible from the air right?
Learn how to save seeds. This will come in handy when the tyrants cut off everyone's access to non-gmo seed sources.
Craving power…
"It's just two weeks to slow the spread"
It always starts small.
small-scale agriculture projects in rural, suburban and urban areas can be recognized as a “People’s Garden”
definition of small-scale agriculture projects:
what is small-scale farming? Small-scale farming describes a farming method using very little land (usually around 1-10 acres) and often using very little to no expensive technologies. Small-scale farming is closely tied with more sustainable agricultural methods including Hobby, organic, biodynamic and permacultural (etc.) farms.
https://freespoke.com/search/web?q=definition+of+small-scale+agriculture+projects
Preparing us for the coming famine.
Need to have something similar but decentralized and anonymous.
Yes.
Small scale farming can save the world...but not if the gvt is involved.
While I agree it’s stupid to register your garden with the govt, the actual write up you linked seems quite positive (of course they can and will turn around and use this against us). The article says USDA supports diversified food supply and local gardening and educating people to grow their own food. Also near the end it had the number 17 🤔
There's a reason pills are candy coated.
You know what else has #17? The UN SDGs..
I don't tell the government anything. They don't even know how big my house is now or how many outbuildings I have. With evergreens, most of my yard doesn't show up on Google maps. I built my own huge greenhouse myself, and didn't get permission from anyone.
There is also stealth gardening. You can plant things along the edges of woods and ditch banks along roads. Most people can't recognize food plants if they aren't planted in neat rows. That's why a food forest is a good idea. Make your back yard look like an unkempt jungle. Most people don't know I have figs, blueberries, and grapes in the backyard.
You can also plant decorative food plants in front of your house. People don't know that you can eat those decorative lettuce type plants or those bright colored peppers. Rose hips are full of vitamin C. The yaupon bush is the only native American source for caffeine. Just don't drink too much of the tea at one time (scientific name Ilex vomitoria).
My bet? They are going to try and offer money for community gardens and urban farms as some kind of food initiative "for people of color" or "disadvantaged communities" so on. Which there is probably a LOT of money to grab if you know how to do their paperwork.
The trade off, they know about your garden, so if they decided you have to suddenly meet commercial USDA criteria, or pay taxes, yah...
So this one is on you. Do you want federal money to grow your garden in exchange to being subject to their dominion. Probably not for a private garden.
That said, absolutely yes get permits from your local county or city if you do go about making a private, personal food garden. Too many horror stories out there about pencil-neck bureaucrats sending bulldozer teams to raze somebody's suburban garden because Karen down the street complained it will ruin their property value to have anything but lawn behind your house. But if you got a permit from the local authority, they will enjoy telling Karen to pound sand, see permit, she can go fuck herself, to honor her request would be work they don't wanna do, like going to court to challenge your permit. Because the inverse is true if you don't have a permit, you become the easier one to fuck over because calling the city workers to rip up your garden is easier than putting up with that bitch Karen calling in, or walking in, every Thursday after she gets her nails done to bitch about you.
They can KMA.
They already have a map of it.
After Covid, why would I do this for any agency? I wouldn't have done this before...but after? All these groups were warned that the Covid Op would come with a big price.
Fortunately none of our gardens meet the communist requirements for the program.
More than 25 food processing plants burned down because they knew where they were. Naturally, the next step is to know where the gardens are. In the end, you will eat the Bugz.
ie, GMO.
here's an acronym for you, USDA: GFY
Confiscation maps. That's all.
Well stated. 🎯
"If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet."
"Taxman" by The Beatles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0zaebtU-CA
Do you have a loicense for that garden?
You realize the vast majority of GMO seeds aren't even available to consumers right?
Yeah, but GMO seeds are kept under lock and key to protect IP.
Did you know the first gmo is corn?
This program is for group, community public gardens, not individual private gardens, but knowing that would require reading the article and not just the headline before jumping to conclusions.
Still wrong