This was hugely helpful as I am always around 230 on my cholesterol and have argued with my doc for years about not taking statins. Now I know my cholesterol is essentially in the normal range. These lying sob medical people. It's all about the $
When I worked for a corporation we had periodic health screenings. My numbers were high. I consulted a doctor and over the phone without EVER seeing me AND without asking me a single lifestyle question he wanted to prescribe me statins. This was several decades ago before we knew much about them. My question was how long would I have to take them? His answer; for life. I said no thank you. So very, very, very glad that I knew better.
Statins are one of the more horrible drugs out there, and like more recent examples (clotshots of course come to mind now), seemingly have had an uptick in bad health outcomes in perfect correlation with their use.. statistically undeniable that their use goes hand in hand with dementia, alzheimers, and other degenerative brain illnesses.
Since statins dissolve cholesterol, and the brain is largely made up of cholesterol.. what other outcome could really have been expected, given a huge proportion of blood flow goes to that organ? Its not as though it can selectively dissolve only from specific areas. And look at all the additional drugs and pharma profits that then flow from all the brain-related treatments! A disgusting industry.
To get back on topic, more meat-based fats, full milk and none of the 'diet' brands of cheese, yogurt, and other dairy based products. Cutting out rubbish grain-based carbs that arent needed, seed oils, sugars as much as possible are the things to get rid of. And then of course, daily exercise to go hand in hand with this.. the ketogenic approach.
Interesting, so if we go away from just checking the mg/dl cholesterol levels towards a WHO given threshold, what else can we look for to see if someone actually has too much cholesterol?
As far as thresholds, those are manipulated. Same with weight, same with blood pressure. Steadily changed to classify more people as being at risk and in need of their drugs. You cannot trust any part of the Medical Industrial System.
High cholesterol protects your heart...it is known it's people with low cholesterol that have heart attacks.
Believe nothing big pharma or governments say.
We need animal fats ..butter lard beef dripping etc. This protects the myleine sheath covering our nervous system...once it is gone through vegan or other wrong eating you cannot get it back.
Carbohydrates and other pro-inflammatory agents such as soybean and corn oils are what destroys your arteries. Cholesterol is simply your body’s way to try and repair the damage.
Makes sense!
What kind of oil do you use for frying meet or veggies in a pan?
Hey, dietician here. Be more worried about inflammation and sugar. Our body makes 4000mg cholesterol a day, its in our lipid bilayers, its the basis of our sex hormones. You want to avoid inflammation and sugar so they dont get too small and dense and clog up.
We recently changed doctors due to distrust in the medical field. Found a DO who accepts our views on vaccinations. He did a full work up on all of us. He kept commenting on how healthy we were compared to other 30 somethings he sees. Blood work came back. Spouse who’s a 34 year old male, healthy as an ox, hasn’t gained a pound in 10 years gets a call that his cholesterol is “high.” They like you to be at 100 or less, he’s at 137! The other is pregnant and also got the call regarding “high”‘cholesterol. I guess they have to find something, huh... we eat the good stuff, real
food, real fats. Statins are terrible, it’s all a joke in my eyes. I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
Oatmeal, celery, any legumes, onions and prunes. Eat one of these once a day and watch the miracle happen almost immediately. Worked for my 85 year old family member. They no longer need blood pressure medications either.
All the praise for cholesterol is correct, however if it builds up in the blood this might indicate that its not converted into the steroid hormones which is often caused by low thyroid.
I'm not really sure I understand what you mean by building up in the blood. Do you mean having two blood tests a month apart and seeing whether it went up? Or do you mean, builds up in the blood as opposed to somewhere else in the body?
"High" cholesterol levels are not necessarily bad and there is certainly nothing bad about cholesterol itself. Almost all of our cells produce it and no matter how much we consume our body will compensate by adjusting it's own production. It's better to consume more then less.
However, if your blood cholesterol get's "very high" something is wrong.
The cholesterol in your blood is supposed to be used, among other things for the conversion into steroid hormones.
If you have a traffic jam and cars pile up on the road you can't just say "cars are good" and leave it at that, you have to fix the cause for the jam.
Also, if the conversion is not working properly, your body will release even more cholesterol into your blood to enforce the conversion which will lead to even higher blood cholesterol levels. The problem is not the cholesterol, it's the jam.
This is often happening in low carb and keto diets (which i did myself for 10 years) and it is - as far as i understand it - caused by high cortisol levels because the lack of sugar is stressfull in the long run, but there are many other factors.
Cortisol blocks thyroid hormone and thyroid hormone is the regulator for the conversion of cholesterol.
Basically thyroid hormone is (again, as far as i understand) the master regulator for our metabolism.
If you have good thyroid levels you will have more energy, and even better, you will have good health because many health issues are related to a disfunctional energy-metabolism.
People who don't get fat have a higher metabolic rate and the best example are kids. Kids have 3-4 times the metabolic rate of adults and it's quite obivous what the results are. Boundless energy and happiness.
Things that can be detrimental for your thyroid levels are a lack of sugar because it's a stressor to rely on fat-oxidation in the long run (it's supposed to get us through the winter and not through the rest of our lives), a lack of sunlight / Vitamin D or PUFAs (polyunsaturated fatty acids) which damage our energy metabolism (PUFAs are supposed to be in cold animals / plants and not in warm ones).
If you have a serious problem with this, more knowlegeable people then me would probably suggest to get a blood test for your hormone levels and continue from there, but that's about as far as i can talk about it with any level of confidence that it might be mostly correct.
Thanks a lot for this interesting read, especially the point about relying on fat-oxidation in the long run.
I wonder though why some UFC fighters or Joe Rogan for example are having mostly exclusively carnivore diets... do they eventually run into issues with high cortisol?
I personally have no issues, it's a family member who was given a test by the doc and told to do something about it (the doctor actually didn't wanna prescribe anything). So having read this thread I am not concered about high cholesterol, but will tell the family member to also eat foods that lower cholesterol (for example oatmeal for breaky).
Good that you do not trust pharma. The whole cholesterol debate is about profits. You need cholesterol. I suspect you will find this video interesting.
Balanced diets are far more beneficial than any biased diets. Periods of cyclical fasting and cleansing is also of huge benefit. The biggest key is to avoid heavily processed foods. Homegrown is best and most assured. Any diet that is "universal" is questionable. I personally believe that blood type, activity level and environment are the best directors of dietary requirements and should be tailored for the individual.
I wouldn't want low cholesterol at any age, it's what your brain uses to fire those neurons.
But surely something like too high cholesterol exists?!
Too small and too dense cholesterol is a problem. Too much cholesterol isn't.
Well, if it was over 400, maybe, but then I'd get the test to see which percentage are the large cholesterol bits.
I'll try to find out the value!
Why?
https://deeprootsathome.com/is-your-cholesterol-really-high-tearing-down-the-cholesterol-myth/
This was hugely helpful as I am always around 230 on my cholesterol and have argued with my doc for years about not taking statins. Now I know my cholesterol is essentially in the normal range. These lying sob medical people. It's all about the $
When I worked for a corporation we had periodic health screenings. My numbers were high. I consulted a doctor and over the phone without EVER seeing me AND without asking me a single lifestyle question he wanted to prescribe me statins. This was several decades ago before we knew much about them. My question was how long would I have to take them? His answer; for life. I said no thank you. So very, very, very glad that I knew better.
Well done honestly!
Statins are one of the more horrible drugs out there, and like more recent examples (clotshots of course come to mind now), seemingly have had an uptick in bad health outcomes in perfect correlation with their use.. statistically undeniable that their use goes hand in hand with dementia, alzheimers, and other degenerative brain illnesses.
Since statins dissolve cholesterol, and the brain is largely made up of cholesterol.. what other outcome could really have been expected, given a huge proportion of blood flow goes to that organ? Its not as though it can selectively dissolve only from specific areas. And look at all the additional drugs and pharma profits that then flow from all the brain-related treatments! A disgusting industry.
To get back on topic, more meat-based fats, full milk and none of the 'diet' brands of cheese, yogurt, and other dairy based products. Cutting out rubbish grain-based carbs that arent needed, seed oils, sugars as much as possible are the things to get rid of. And then of course, daily exercise to go hand in hand with this.. the ketogenic approach.
Interesting, so if we go away from just checking the mg/dl cholesterol levels towards a WHO given threshold, what else can we look for to see if someone actually has too much cholesterol?
As far as thresholds, those are manipulated. Same with weight, same with blood pressure. Steadily changed to classify more people as being at risk and in need of their drugs. You cannot trust any part of the Medical Industrial System.
High cholesterol protects your heart...it is known it's people with low cholesterol that have heart attacks.
Believe nothing big pharma or governments say.
We need animal fats ..butter lard beef dripping etc. This protects the myleine sheath covering our nervous system...once it is gone through vegan or other wrong eating you cannot get it back.
There's that INVERSION again!
Makes sense! What kind of oil do you use for frying meet or veggies in a pan?
Avocado oil, animal fat, or grassfed butter
Lard. Pure animal protein. Very good for you.
Hey, dietician here. Be more worried about inflammation and sugar. Our body makes 4000mg cholesterol a day, its in our lipid bilayers, its the basis of our sex hormones. You want to avoid inflammation and sugar so they dont get too small and dense and clog up.
Thanks!
Summit three peaks over 28,000 ft in the Himalayas in 6 months.
Wrong thread
No, it will help like a champion with high cholesterol and will slim you right down and build insane core strength to boot !
Try and avoid K2, too many deaths.
oh lol went completely over my head!
Kek !
Oatmeal.
I have to do the same though not a woman. Went on a med my dermatologist prescribed and my triglycerides went from 191 to 498 in a month.
I'm sticking with natural treatments from here on out.
Oatmeal for every breakfast I'm guessing?
Yeah, supposed to help quite a bit. My brother has been doing that for a while with a lot of success.
We recently changed doctors due to distrust in the medical field. Found a DO who accepts our views on vaccinations. He did a full work up on all of us. He kept commenting on how healthy we were compared to other 30 somethings he sees. Blood work came back. Spouse who’s a 34 year old male, healthy as an ox, hasn’t gained a pound in 10 years gets a call that his cholesterol is “high.” They like you to be at 100 or less, he’s at 137! The other is pregnant and also got the call regarding “high”‘cholesterol. I guess they have to find something, huh... we eat the good stuff, real food, real fats. Statins are terrible, it’s all a joke in my eyes. I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
Yeah, it's a family member who told me her doc gave her the news. I just explained her all the info from this thread and now everyone's happy :)
I trust medical info on GAW waaaay more then the medical experts inside the system.
Oatmeal, celery, any legumes, onions and prunes. Eat one of these once a day and watch the miracle happen almost immediately. Worked for my 85 year old family member. They no longer need blood pressure medications either.
Great!
All the praise for cholesterol is correct, however if it builds up in the blood this might indicate that its not converted into the steroid hormones which is often caused by low thyroid.
I'm not really sure I understand what you mean by building up in the blood. Do you mean having two blood tests a month apart and seeing whether it went up? Or do you mean, builds up in the blood as opposed to somewhere else in the body?
"High" cholesterol levels are not necessarily bad and there is certainly nothing bad about cholesterol itself. Almost all of our cells produce it and no matter how much we consume our body will compensate by adjusting it's own production. It's better to consume more then less.
However, if your blood cholesterol get's "very high" something is wrong. The cholesterol in your blood is supposed to be used, among other things for the conversion into steroid hormones. If you have a traffic jam and cars pile up on the road you can't just say "cars are good" and leave it at that, you have to fix the cause for the jam.
Also, if the conversion is not working properly, your body will release even more cholesterol into your blood to enforce the conversion which will lead to even higher blood cholesterol levels. The problem is not the cholesterol, it's the jam.
This is often happening in low carb and keto diets (which i did myself for 10 years) and it is - as far as i understand it - caused by high cortisol levels because the lack of sugar is stressfull in the long run, but there are many other factors. Cortisol blocks thyroid hormone and thyroid hormone is the regulator for the conversion of cholesterol. Basically thyroid hormone is (again, as far as i understand) the master regulator for our metabolism. If you have good thyroid levels you will have more energy, and even better, you will have good health because many health issues are related to a disfunctional energy-metabolism. People who don't get fat have a higher metabolic rate and the best example are kids. Kids have 3-4 times the metabolic rate of adults and it's quite obivous what the results are. Boundless energy and happiness.
Things that can be detrimental for your thyroid levels are a lack of sugar because it's a stressor to rely on fat-oxidation in the long run (it's supposed to get us through the winter and not through the rest of our lives), a lack of sunlight / Vitamin D or PUFAs (polyunsaturated fatty acids) which damage our energy metabolism (PUFAs are supposed to be in cold animals / plants and not in warm ones).
If you have a serious problem with this, more knowlegeable people then me would probably suggest to get a blood test for your hormone levels and continue from there, but that's about as far as i can talk about it with any level of confidence that it might be mostly correct.
Thanks a lot for this interesting read, especially the point about relying on fat-oxidation in the long run.
I wonder though why some UFC fighters or Joe Rogan for example are having mostly exclusively carnivore diets... do they eventually run into issues with high cortisol?
I personally have no issues, it's a family member who was given a test by the doc and told to do something about it (the doctor actually didn't wanna prescribe anything). So having read this thread I am not concered about high cholesterol, but will tell the family member to also eat foods that lower cholesterol (for example oatmeal for breaky).
Ceylon cinnamon
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391
Please read this link. It may alter your view of cholesterol.
Good that you do not trust pharma. The whole cholesterol debate is about profits. You need cholesterol. I suspect you will find this video interesting.
https://youtu.be/Ga-LtObrFXs
cholesterol ONLY comes from animal products.
more plants + less animals
but agree w a lot of the posters here that cholesterol isn't actually all that bad
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=622310521998038
This is great, thanks.
Red yeast rice pills for LDL and Fish Oil for triglycerides. Eat in a calorie deficit for a few months. Keep total fat under 65 grams a day.
change diet toward plant-based, eat less red meat. poultry and fish are ok
Balanced diets are far more beneficial than any biased diets. Periods of cyclical fasting and cleansing is also of huge benefit. The biggest key is to avoid heavily processed foods. Homegrown is best and most assured. Any diet that is "universal" is questionable. I personally believe that blood type, activity level and environment are the best directors of dietary requirements and should be tailored for the individual.