Imagine the embarrassment for the Biden admin if the US loses this proxy war
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Ukraine already lost.
They lost within 30minutes of the war starting because that is how long it took Russia to take out Ukraine's air support.
I love when I hear normies say "Ukraine is winning!"
Russia is a global superpower that can challenge the USA, and what's Ukraine? Some corrupt ass nation that's been killing its own citizens since 2014. I'll take my chances betting on Russia winning.
It's taking all of the collective west to even slow down Russia's annihilation of the Ukrnazis. The west can't say they're not directly involved when they've waged economic war through sanctions, and have sent billions of dollars and weapons to Ukraine.
(And of course by "collective west" I mean the cabal-occupied governments)
You can unfortunately see that for yourself on Free Republic. So many supposed "conservatives" are absolutely convinced that Ukraine is winning, and that they'll actually push Russia back all the way and start their own invasion of Russia. They're fucking retarded.
Free Republic is filled with paid shills and disruptors. It's nowhere near as good as it used to be.
It really is sad, it seems like old accounts are sucking Zelensky's dick.
There's an army veteran who post on tic tok. He thinks he is brilliant yet he is cemetery on the wrong side. This guy used to analyze Intel for the u.s. military and he cant figure this simple thing out
Money comes out of the Treasury. It's paid back to the Treasury. So the risk of lending is shouldered by the taxpayer. If things go right, the taxpayer gets his money back decades later. In the meantime, they're still embezzling it all and laundering the proceeds back into their own pockets.
True, how do we get it back? We won't. As far as I'm concerned it's the deep states debt to pay.
100% correct. Also, consider this: which ‘bank’ will ‘facilitate’ that loan. It will not be Govt to Govt. Cant do that … by law.
Just like we loaned the Taliban!
Conveniently, most of Ukraine is either Russian, pro-Russian, or doesn't give a fuck, just trying to live life
Haha! Good one. Yeah, the US really needs those tens of billions back or it's doomed! Oh my.
Now spend a few hundred billion on a bill to fight inflation. And a few thousand billion before that.
Stick to eating too much, Kim nom nom.
Almost 100 billions was sent to Ukraine. Your main argument is invalid and feelings based.
No, the peanuts sent to Ukraine are nothing compared to the trillions spent on nothing in the last two years.
Here's a handy "feelings" chart that even you can understand. Maybe.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt
Your original statement you says tens of billions and now it’s trillions? You are all over the place. That’s quite undereducated
You don't read very well, do you? Try again.
I did. In my opinion your reply is undereducated.
How so, Mr. Smarty pants?
Seems like you could have lead with a counterpoint instead of insults.
But I'm not educated like you.
I don’t need to provide an opinion to evaluate yours.
Lol... I can see the Kenyan, Pelosi, Schumer & team try something like this... claiming their money laundering scheme is a loan, and make citizens repay it. Peak democrat Malarkey.
Russia already won despite what MSM keeps saying, including Greta on Newsmax (formerly of FOX and a total Leftist). A loan? Ukraine will never repay it because part of it has been laundered out of Ukraine.
Ohhhh great reasoning here.
Ukraine cannot ever pay back that massive loan even if they were to win. The debt means the US would own everything.
The US is fighting for ownership of Ukraine.
Ukraine has dozens of trillions of dollars worth of natural resources and the most fertile land in all of Europe.
Germany has been trying to get at them for literal centuries, for example. Nazis literally sent trainloads of Ukrainian topsoil back home.
Monsanto, Vanguard and Blackrock bought up 70% of the Ukraine farmland after they pushed through a change in the law allowing it. I think Zelensky was the president that signed it.
Yep.
And now the best bit of that land is under Russian control.
The US ruined the Soviet investment in Afghanistan, and now the Russians are trying to do the same in Ukraine
It’s pretty embarrassing already
Quit while we are ahead.
If?
Our currency is already a form of a loan. The billions Biden sent over there are, like many political contributions; gifts with strings.
I’m a simple man. I see Kim Dotcom, I downvote.
Imagine the embarrassment if Russia collapses as a result of the war and their thousands of nuclear missiles end up in the hands of random nutters.
Very unlikely that Russia will "collapse." It has food and fuel, which Europe (and now the U.S.) do not. They lack trinkets, McDonald's, and Starbucks. Meanwhile, they are making more profit on selling less oil. Backing the ruble with gold and making arrangements with the REST OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD to continue trading. You know, tiny places like China, India, Brazil, and Africa. The unipolar world is coming apart at the Ukrainian seams.
Add onto the fact that Russia still maintained its industrial base while the West has outsourced all of theirs to SEA and China, and things look very different. You can't just shut down factories and industry and start it up again like a car engine which is what most Western politicians believe. You need to maintain supply line of raw materials and a revolving door of journeymen and apprentice workers, something the West has not done for decades.
Europe and to an extent the US is going to be in for a world of financial hurt.
I think "going to be" needs to be replaced with "now experiencing the leading edge."
That is very highly unlikely.
Russian opposition has proved itself to be completely incapable of anything, they literally all ran away to the West as soon as the war started.
The only opposition Putin has now are Russian patriot nationalists who want to escalate the conflict into a full out war with NATO and to stop pussyfooting around like Putin has been doing, while Russia still holds the hypersonic advantage.
Putin is literally the most tolerant and moderate version of this conflict.
^^^ This