I'm not sure about DeSantis. We do need more unifying forces, but if a unifying force divides with the same side's unifying force, then it's not a unifying force.
DeSantis has no hope of winning a legitimate election against Trump.
He should focus on making Florida the best it can be.
The only problem I see with your original post is you did it with less than 2 weeks until election day like it was a political hit piece. What is a Floridian's alternative? Crist, the verified liberal? So we should send DeSantis a message by kicking him out for being a rino? Do the hit pieces if he decides to be a contender against Trump, by all means.
Crist scares me. So much so that given a choice between him and Mitt Romney, I would have to hold my nose and vote for Romney, Crist is that bad. Actually I would just stay home on election day and get my final affairs in order. Florida cannot fall under liberal control or 2024 is gone for us.
DeSantis can stay in Florida, land of RINOs. The Deep State apparently has some kind of dirt on him, but if he continues on the path he's on then he will not have much of a political career left at the end of it all. By 2024 nobody is going to still think he is MAGA or on Trump's side.
The only problem I see with your original post is you did it with less than 2 weeks until election day like it was a political hit piece.
Dont be a dumbass. Just because I use a new video of Jeb gloating about DeSantis doesn't make it a hit piece. It doesn't make the money trail between the two any less relevant.
Does seeing it today make it a 3 day hit piece?
Think, man. Think!
I'm not here to lie to you, I'm here to dig up the truth and follow the money like Q says.
Did you bother seeing my comments that I would still vote DeSantis over Crist?
If you think we don't need a unifying force when conservatives are the most individualist people in the world, then you should get used to losing.
Trump unified conservatives and classical liberals and wiped the floor with the left in 2016 despite an incredible propaganda machine that is worse than any before it, and then came back and forced them to cheat so outwardly that only fools believe it was a legitimate election.
You can only pull the numbers Trump does by being a unifying force.
You should absolutely care about the other people we have as options moving forward after 2024.
The point is that real conservatives shouldn't unite with RINOs. That's actually how we lost 2024 (Pence).
Are you being a dimwit? I'm talking about uniting the voter base, not politicians. Trump is a unifying force for voters, due to his charisma, blunt honesty and transparent record of integrity. We do not have any other people for a time after Trump right now.
Conservatives are not "the most individualist people in the world", we're actually united with each other. You're just throwing out random words that you think will support your point, but think about what you say before you speak.
So.. you're retarded. Okay. You could have said that from the start, that would have been a lot easier.
Conservatives have trouble unifying behind a candidate and have very different preferences for what they will vote for. We are far more complex than the left, who will vote exclusively on party lines for single issues.
Conservatives are split between a lot of different ideologies, and we source our base from far more than the US left does. That requires someone to unify, or else the vote is split like 4 different directions. Conservatives are also more likely to vote across the aisle, a la Obama in 2008.
If you don't understand how variable the conservative base is compared to the left, I would go research how varied conservatives tend to vote, how our track record falls right in line with the "don't bother me and I will keep my head down" stereotype we are known for, and then compare that to the Trump era where we got our asses out and got excited, riled up and involved because of Trump.
Trump's energy inspires this base like not even the tea party did. He reignited the American flames in our blood, and he carried that flame to people who don't even have that American blood or heritage.
Even Ron Paul couldn't do that, and he's one of the most clean, stable and is of the highest of integrities that we've ever seen in a candidate. But he didn't have Trump's energy to beat everything back.
To say we have been united as strongly as we are now under Trump would be a hilarious lie full of such denialism it'd actually bring me to tears from laughing.
We can't even always agree on core issues.
Edit: Lol you downvoted immediately after I posted. You will not argue your point with any point of good faith, because you don't want to be challenged to defend your points. And we say, buh bye. Not worth my time to continue engaging with someone who doesn't want to sit down and chat.
Trump and DeSantis are not on the same side. They don't like each other and Trump and his team have repeatedly scolded DeSantis for refusing to say he wouldn't run against Trump. So there is no way Trump would ever consider having DeSantis as a running mate. People are fooled because DeSantis is doing things Trump would have done, because that is how DeSantis intends to steal the nomination. My uncle supported Trump but he watches Fox News so he thinks Trump is done because of those horrible J6 insurrection he supposedly caused, but he sure thinks DeSantis is a great guy. They're setting it up so DS will have just enough support that they can steal the primary for him.
I'm not sure about DeSantis. We do need more unifying forces, but if a unifying force divides with the same side's unifying force, then it's not a unifying force.
DeSantis has no hope of winning a legitimate election against Trump.
He should focus on making Florida the best it can be.
I agree.
The only problem I see with your original post is you did it with less than 2 weeks until election day like it was a political hit piece. What is a Floridian's alternative? Crist, the verified liberal? So we should send DeSantis a message by kicking him out for being a rino? Do the hit pieces if he decides to be a contender against Trump, by all means.
Crist scares me. So much so that given a choice between him and Mitt Romney, I would have to hold my nose and vote for Romney, Crist is that bad. Actually I would just stay home on election day and get my final affairs in order. Florida cannot fall under liberal control or 2024 is gone for us.
DeSantis can stay in Florida, land of RINOs. The Deep State apparently has some kind of dirt on him, but if he continues on the path he's on then he will not have much of a political career left at the end of it all. By 2024 nobody is going to still think he is MAGA or on Trump's side.
Dont be a dumbass. Just because I use a new video of Jeb gloating about DeSantis doesn't make it a hit piece. It doesn't make the money trail between the two any less relevant.
Does seeing it today make it a 3 day hit piece?
Think, man. Think!
I'm not here to lie to you, I'm here to dig up the truth and follow the money like Q says.
Did you bother seeing my comments that I would still vote DeSantis over Crist?
https://files.catbox.moe/qwj4k9.mp4
Why take Bush money if you're simply putting on a show?
We don't need "unifying forces". Anyone who's down with RINOs can go fuck their gay selves.
If you think we don't need a unifying force when conservatives are the most individualist people in the world, then you should get used to losing.
Trump unified conservatives and classical liberals and wiped the floor with the left in 2016 despite an incredible propaganda machine that is worse than any before it, and then came back and forced them to cheat so outwardly that only fools believe it was a legitimate election.
You can only pull the numbers Trump does by being a unifying force.
You think Jeb could do that?
I love our gov
Something tells me any reason I could give would be labeled suspiciously inexplicable
You should absolutely care about the other people we have as options moving forward after 2024.
Are you being a dimwit? I'm talking about uniting the voter base, not politicians. Trump is a unifying force for voters, due to his charisma, blunt honesty and transparent record of integrity. We do not have any other people for a time after Trump right now.
So.. you're retarded. Okay. You could have said that from the start, that would have been a lot easier.
Conservatives have trouble unifying behind a candidate and have very different preferences for what they will vote for. We are far more complex than the left, who will vote exclusively on party lines for single issues.
Conservatives are split between a lot of different ideologies, and we source our base from far more than the US left does. That requires someone to unify, or else the vote is split like 4 different directions. Conservatives are also more likely to vote across the aisle, a la Obama in 2008.
If you don't understand how variable the conservative base is compared to the left, I would go research how varied conservatives tend to vote, how our track record falls right in line with the "don't bother me and I will keep my head down" stereotype we are known for, and then compare that to the Trump era where we got our asses out and got excited, riled up and involved because of Trump.
Trump's energy inspires this base like not even the tea party did. He reignited the American flames in our blood, and he carried that flame to people who don't even have that American blood or heritage.
Even Ron Paul couldn't do that, and he's one of the most clean, stable and is of the highest of integrities that we've ever seen in a candidate. But he didn't have Trump's energy to beat everything back.
To say we have been united as strongly as we are now under Trump would be a hilarious lie full of such denialism it'd actually bring me to tears from laughing.
We can't even always agree on core issues.
Edit: Lol you downvoted immediately after I posted. You will not argue your point with any point of good faith, because you don't want to be challenged to defend your points. And we say, buh bye. Not worth my time to continue engaging with someone who doesn't want to sit down and chat.
Trump said vote for the RINOS anyway, we'll deal with them later
Seems reasonable to go along with his judgment, which has been highly astute all along
He doesn't have to win the election, GOP cheats and steals the nomination from Trump, and then DS is the candidate.
What about a 2024 Trump - Desantis ticket. This would give Trump four years to clean out the swamp, and then DeSantis could have the next eight years.
It will take a war time leader like Trump to clean things up. No one else is suited to that task.
Trump and DeSantis are not on the same side. They don't like each other and Trump and his team have repeatedly scolded DeSantis for refusing to say he wouldn't run against Trump. So there is no way Trump would ever consider having DeSantis as a running mate. People are fooled because DeSantis is doing things Trump would have done, because that is how DeSantis intends to steal the nomination. My uncle supported Trump but he watches Fox News so he thinks Trump is done because of those horrible J6 insurrection he supposedly caused, but he sure thinks DeSantis is a great guy. They're setting it up so DS will have just enough support that they can steal the primary for him.
Desantis would be too much like Pence.
Agreed. DeSantis is a Freemason and possibly a member of Skull and Bones- just like the Bush’s. That’s some serious anti-conservative stuff if true.
He's part of the Yale fraternity St Elmos.
Still an old Yale fraternity, but not Skull and Bones.
Take a look at this picture and tell me if it makes you more comfortable: https://files.catbox.moe/2ruykk.jpg