I doubt that these parasites leaving will have any effect over the quality of the site other than less censorship. Like all libtards, they think they're irreplaceable.
Haha. They're acting like they can't be replaced. And like the richest dude in the world would never have guessed or planned for this. Baha. They're amusing.
Eh, "operating at such high scales" is relevant only to developers that need to worry about that part of the system. E.g. I'm a front-end guy so I'm good (not "just average") at UI/UX stuff (now, to your point, 80% of front-end people - at least - are not, don't care about the little details that make the difference, etc, but anyway) but have very little knowledge/experience dealing with making the back-end performant.
Now, that said, Twitter's UI is more or less baked so yes the priorities for improvement (as Elon has posted) are on the back end - I wouldn't have anything to do at Twitter obviously.
Frontend can easily have big scale problems especially in a SaaS business. I do full stack development, we use micro frontends and serve dozens of fortune 500 companies. Our backend architecture is massive, with 30+ microservices that are monoliths in their own right. My company is nowhere near the size of Twitter. With all these firings, it's going to be difficult to fill up those spots. Twitter operates at a gargantuan scale.
I like to differentiate between developers (traditional websites) and engineers (web apps). People assume they're firing the former when the latter (which is much harder to find competent talent in) is who they are actually firing. I can guarantee every engineer (key word being engineer, not diversity HR) fired from Twitter will find a job within 2 weeks. Industry still needs talent even with the recession going on.
All true but my point is (as a full-stack myself, though one that has basically gravitated to front-end, and one who hasn't really had to deal with big data/scaling issues even when doing the full-stack part) that your differentiation about what makes a good vs average developer/engineer only looks at one aspect of the problem.
I'd also argue that there's no such thing as an expert full-stack developer/engineer (whatever you want to call it) as it's a very big ask to expect people to be experts at all levels of the stack, there's way too many nuances to each. The wish lists for dev/engr jobs for full-stacks are often eye-rolling. E.g. advanced SQL skills are something I'd not expect from anyone but dedicated SQL developers.
Edit: If your microservices are "monoliths in their own right" I'm not sure I'd ride as high a horse as you are.
Its not that there isn't such a thing as expert full stack developers, it's just exceedingly rare. I work with several. Most front end engineers are required to have strong grasp of their backend. I wouldn't expect someone to have advanced SQL skills but I'd expect them to be competent enough to know what to do.
The code I write effects about 10% of Americans in a major economic sector. Some of the singular services we offer would be another companies entire product. We are operating at a large scale but nowhere near Twitters size. To give you a rough estimate, 1 of our 30 services costs about 500k per month to host on AWS. We regularly close 25m+ contracts and are consistently gaining market share.
Edit: If your microservices are "monoliths in their own right" I'm not sure I'd ride as high a horse as you are.
Without showing you any code, it's hard to tell you why. We aren't making to-do apps :). One man's microservice is another man's monoliths. It depends on the size and scale of your product.
I don't know what type of company you're with or how long you've been in industry, but when you do hit those big data/scale problems you'll see what I mean.
They went from shitting on the streets, to getting their "degrees" and "certifications" out of Cracker Jack boxes, to working for one of the greatest brainwashing tools ever put out by the government. They also bathe maybe once a month.
They work on embedded, which is quite different (harder to write code since they use low level languages like C). So whatever language Twatter code base is they should have no problems.
Much like a Republican president entering into an ex-Dem White House, Elon needs to clean house. Honestly, even the ones that don't quit should probably be replaced. Snakes in the grass.
What the FUCK is there to design? These people act like they're working on the Space Shuttle or something. Elon could "design" what he wants for this on a napkin in 5 minutes.
When i read stuff like this, I hear my kid saying "I havent changed my oil in 25,000 miles. Its just a big scam by the car companies."
Technology is built by people. People are idiots. Therefore, its only a matter of time before two things written by two different idiots interact and burn everything to the ground.
It doesn't take 70,000 employees to fix some bad code..and witj employees in time zones around the world a repair can passed around and worked on 24 hours a day vs 4 hours a week as many of the employees were doing... beside Musk is driving a serious improvement program driven by employees who are willing to put in long hours...
I couldn't say what it would take to run Twitter. My experience with software stacks caps at about 5000 users. To maintain those 5,000 users, it took about 25 full people worth of manhours and we didnt have developers on staff.
Scaling that up says 5 million people to serve 1 billion users. Twitter was doing that with 70k people. Seems not crazy, especially when some of that goes to legal overhead in each of those places (interpreting laws across the US' jurisidictions alone can take several people depending on your app's target sector).
Reducing to 10k sounds like a plausible target by someone who knows twitter better (e.g. an Elon). Going down to 50, as I saw somewhere in this thread, seems like tossing out the baby with the bathwater.
But aside from all the censoring, shadowbanning and promoting algos twitter is a pretty simple bit of software....( 126 characters dropped in at a time) it is really just a glorified billboard system. . The earliest of which were (I believe) Unix dial in servers with less computing capacity than your grandmothers PC.... I wouldn't be surprised if Elon takes it back to the pre 2016 clock tome feeds with minor tweeks for highly popular tags.... Remember that he outlined what a $8 check mark would get you and it is mostly reduced marketing in your feed and the ability to attach files.
I doubt that these parasites leaving will have any effect over the quality of the site other than less censorship. Like all libtards, they think they're irreplaceable.
less censorship is good. Also more bots will be gone
And the tweet is gone!
Haha. They're acting like they can't be replaced. And like the richest dude in the world would never have guessed or planned for this. Baha. They're amusing.
Right?!?!?
That fucker launches rockets into space….which if that wasn’t enough for you he also lands ‘em back here on earth!!!
But yeah Dimtards, tell me how he has no idea how to work some silly social algorithms and computer code…
Absolute dipshits!
I doubt he's the programmer lol, he's prob got tons of engineers ready
And it's possible that he has the entire military behind him.
absolutely, all the actors/players working for WHs are protected.
Er... the military made Twitter and FB, these were mostly no show and censorship people.
they don't even know their own gender.. haha
Well, ffs, they’re not BIOLOGISTS!
Or what bathroom to use
altho i agree, we have to be cautiously optimistic, we really dont know what side elon is on for certain
Dude, we have so many coders out there…bye Felicia! ☘️
Coal miners should learn to code and coders should learn to mine coal.
😂😂😂☘️
80% of programmers are just average. Very few can operate at such high scales. Good thing for Elon is that he has the best engineers on tap
True of all occupations actually
Teachers at the low end...
Eh, "operating at such high scales" is relevant only to developers that need to worry about that part of the system. E.g. I'm a front-end guy so I'm good (not "just average") at UI/UX stuff (now, to your point, 80% of front-end people - at least - are not, don't care about the little details that make the difference, etc, but anyway) but have very little knowledge/experience dealing with making the back-end performant.
Now, that said, Twitter's UI is more or less baked so yes the priorities for improvement (as Elon has posted) are on the back end - I wouldn't have anything to do at Twitter obviously.
Frontend can easily have big scale problems especially in a SaaS business. I do full stack development, we use micro frontends and serve dozens of fortune 500 companies. Our backend architecture is massive, with 30+ microservices that are monoliths in their own right. My company is nowhere near the size of Twitter. With all these firings, it's going to be difficult to fill up those spots. Twitter operates at a gargantuan scale.
I like to differentiate between developers (traditional websites) and engineers (web apps). People assume they're firing the former when the latter (which is much harder to find competent talent in) is who they are actually firing. I can guarantee every engineer (key word being engineer, not diversity HR) fired from Twitter will find a job within 2 weeks. Industry still needs talent even with the recession going on.
All true but my point is (as a full-stack myself, though one that has basically gravitated to front-end, and one who hasn't really had to deal with big data/scaling issues even when doing the full-stack part) that your differentiation about what makes a good vs average developer/engineer only looks at one aspect of the problem.
I'd also argue that there's no such thing as an expert full-stack developer/engineer (whatever you want to call it) as it's a very big ask to expect people to be experts at all levels of the stack, there's way too many nuances to each. The wish lists for dev/engr jobs for full-stacks are often eye-rolling. E.g. advanced SQL skills are something I'd not expect from anyone but dedicated SQL developers.
Edit: If your microservices are "monoliths in their own right" I'm not sure I'd ride as high a horse as you are.
Its not that there isn't such a thing as expert full stack developers, it's just exceedingly rare. I work with several. Most front end engineers are required to have strong grasp of their backend. I wouldn't expect someone to have advanced SQL skills but I'd expect them to be competent enough to know what to do.
The code I write effects about 10% of Americans in a major economic sector. Some of the singular services we offer would be another companies entire product. We are operating at a large scale but nowhere near Twitters size. To give you a rough estimate, 1 of our 30 services costs about 500k per month to host on AWS. We regularly close 25m+ contracts and are consistently gaining market share.
Without showing you any code, it's hard to tell you why. We aren't making to-do apps :). One man's microservice is another man's monoliths. It depends on the size and scale of your product.
I don't know what type of company you're with or how long you've been in industry, but when you do hit those big data/scale problems you'll see what I mean.
I didn't see an argument only a discussion. Juniors get so sensitive.
I find twatter to be horrible to use.
I doubt they were hired based on their actual skill & abilities if you know what I mean.. so this is a good thing.
They went from shitting on the streets, to getting their "degrees" and "certifications" out of Cracker Jack boxes, to working for one of the greatest brainwashing tools ever put out by the government. They also bathe maybe once a month.
Perfect!
This was what I was thinking. He's probably got access to top military
Birdbath flair is hilarious.
Elon brought in his top software engineers from Tesla on day one.
They have examined the code base and they are the ones who likely found the timeline issues with the Android client Elon Tweeted about.
They work on embedded, which is quite different (harder to write code since they use low level languages like C). So whatever language Twatter code base is they should have no problems.
Much like a Republican president entering into an ex-Dem White House, Elon needs to clean house. Honestly, even the ones that don't quit should probably be replaced. Snakes in the grass.
"The designers leading...verified project"
What the FUCK is there to design? These people act like they're working on the Space Shuttle or something. Elon could "design" what he wants for this on a napkin in 5 minutes.
"Maintained critical infrastructure" - again, what?
"Lead web engineer" - yeah probably a guy who got free wine and went in meditation room to pull his pud most of the day. BFD.
I was just on Twitter for Zuby thread from another post and shockingly enough it seems to be up and running just fine.
What are Zoe's pronouns anyway?
Boom. No severance pay, no unemployment payments
I was going to say that, quite a brilliant way to save some money, let the trash take itself out
But then I remembered they were offered severance in that "work hard or GTFO!!!" email, at least that was what was reported.
One engineer working 40 hours can replace 10 working 4. About time someone showed those trophy children to the door. Good luck in the real world…
I’m sure employing one person with decent work ethics that does not identify as a retard is equivalent to one hundred gender fluid faggot.
Land lords dream of being able to do this to tenants at times...
If it crashes, that's $44 billion well spent.
I won't notice a thing. What's twitter?
Lolz, Elon got em by the balls and showing the world ...
Twitter can be literally run… as a company… on 250 employees… probably less
It's gonna look like a different company?!?!?
What oh what on earth ever shall we do
Daniel Johnson said the company would look very different in a week. He was bang on the money...
how many are gone and still functionality has not been impaired??? Sorry bitter kitty....you will not be missed.
When i read stuff like this, I hear my kid saying "I havent changed my oil in 25,000 miles. Its just a big scam by the car companies."
Technology is built by people. People are idiots. Therefore, its only a matter of time before two things written by two different idiots interact and burn everything to the ground.
Having (good) staff is necessary.
It doesn't take 70,000 employees to fix some bad code..and witj employees in time zones around the world a repair can passed around and worked on 24 hours a day vs 4 hours a week as many of the employees were doing... beside Musk is driving a serious improvement program driven by employees who are willing to put in long hours...
I couldn't say what it would take to run Twitter. My experience with software stacks caps at about 5000 users. To maintain those 5,000 users, it took about 25 full people worth of manhours and we didnt have developers on staff.
Scaling that up says 5 million people to serve 1 billion users. Twitter was doing that with 70k people. Seems not crazy, especially when some of that goes to legal overhead in each of those places (interpreting laws across the US' jurisidictions alone can take several people depending on your app's target sector).
Reducing to 10k sounds like a plausible target by someone who knows twitter better (e.g. an Elon). Going down to 50, as I saw somewhere in this thread, seems like tossing out the baby with the bathwater.
But aside from all the censoring, shadowbanning and promoting algos twitter is a pretty simple bit of software....( 126 characters dropped in at a time) it is really just a glorified billboard system. . The earliest of which were (I believe) Unix dial in servers with less computing capacity than your grandmothers PC.... I wouldn't be surprised if Elon takes it back to the pre 2016 clock tome feeds with minor tweeks for highly popular tags.... Remember that he outlined what a $8 check mark would get you and it is mostly reduced marketing in your feed and the ability to attach files.
good
Ha! Playing right into his hands.
Yay!