Yeah I used to believe that crap, then I went out into the real world only to learn that "sin" is about personal struggle and to make laws around it goes against EVERYTHING Christ taught. Most people are just trying to live their lives in peace. Less than 1% of the human population is actually evil and yes there is a difference between sin and evil. Learn it.
You aren't required to be open minded, but why do you get to decide how consenting adults are supposed to behave? Are you better than all of us? Why are your morals the correct morals?
Christ says we are all equal. And He's right. He also preaches a message with heavy emphasis on individual choice and consequence. He's also pretty clear about selling all your possessions, picking up your cross and follow Him. No, you're too much of a coward to do that too? So again, what authority do you speak with to decide how everyone is supposed to live their lives?
There's a reason we have a Constitution and NOT the Bible as the law of the land. It is not yours or anyone's place to decide how people are supposed to behave. We aren't going back to the 90's and early 00s era of Christian thought policing. If you want that for yourself, you are free to subject yourself. Stop telling the rest of us how we're supposed to live.
Endorsing this action by Istanbul is extremely anti-American.
All the things God calls sin have a detrimental impact to the individual and to the society. This is one way, I find, to identify if something is sinful when the Bible is less than clear, as it sometimes is.
Further, sin is always evil. How could it be anything else? God is the basis of moral good. Good doesn't describe God, God describes good. As such, sin is the antithesis of God and is therefore evil.
There is no Biblical basis for differentiating between sin and evil. Sin is to miss the mark. God's Word is the mark. God's Word is perfect and good. To miss that mark would mean to be imperfect and not good. If something is not good, it is evil, as it is not of God who is the very concept of good.
Maybe instead of making snide and snarky comments like "learn it" while exuding an air of superiority while accusing people of acting better than others, you could actually present your view on sin vs evil? Revolutionary idea, I know...
As for consenting adults, they can have their gay butt sex in their own beds. They don't need to be parading around in public acting like they're so amazing for putting their dicks in ass or for cutting their dicks off.
Constitutional principles apply to the Biblical principles. For instance Muslims and sharia law. The first action of Sharia law is to kill LGBT people. That goes against Christianity and our Constitution.
Christian’s say repent but eventually if no repentance than action is required.
Muslims do not require repentance. They require their Sharia Law.
The separation of Church and State does not mean separate God. It is a wise move to separate the powers of government and the powers of Religion.
Christ was not religious is what you mean. The does and do nots of a religion is boring stuff. If a person is for Christianity they will desire to be against abortion and against sin by natural internal mechanisms.
Consider this verse. I like to see the leaders being responsible for the sheep.
Jeremiah 23:1
Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
Woe is what we shall see. The ones who knowingly confuse the innocent into doing sinful and harmful things to themselves like self mutilation, self sacrifice, bowing to idols because others say you are racist.
Those who do that will be held at a much higher offense. It is very exciting times.
""The first action of Sharia law is to kill LGBT people. That goes against Christianity and our Constitution.""
No it doesn't go against Christianity, most or many of them are Satanists, Practice Black Magic as WITCHES and such, are Pedos, and now we even see they Fuck Animals too....
So, Sodom and Gomorrah don't mean anything is what you're saying along with protect Satanists, Witches, and Luciferians, well why not come out and just say we should also place BLM and ANTIFA on pedestals and make Laws protecting them from being Killed or even prosecuted....
Hell, for that matter, lets just shred the U.S. Constitution and make Christianity Illegal, because you're too stupid to understand that the Constitution aligns with the Bible, mainly because the Bible is Historically the same as Vattels Law of Nations, the Books that the Founders used in Creating the U.S. Constitution....
And then you throw in a quote from the Bible???
You are a blasphemer, and don't try to come back at me with the bullshit line of ""You shall not Judge"", the bible was incorrectly translated in that, it should have been You shall not CONDEMN, we have the full Right to Judge, It is Gods domain to Condemn....
Many times through out history people believe they are judging righteousness correctly.
With wisdom we do not need to judge.
Mathew 7:1-3
We know people by their fruit. They judge themselves and we ought to learn how to see it.
Why would I judge any spirit of the devil? The spirit of the devil will use tactics that will only be obvious.
If you chose to judge others that is fine but with you is it possible you are only full of hate and categorize only yourself as righteous.
You do you. I am sure you have good intent. We all have different ways we see the same BS going on. As time goes on in the life we all make adjustments according to our own faith….
And yet our country was and is based on Christian principles and virtues. If evil is not stopped, what is the result? How do we protect our most vulnerable? Are you good with the utter filth in the schools now? Do we sit back and approve of that? Do we allow our wide-open borders to stay open? Are we all equal there? This is what my pastor posted on facehole today: "Through our culture, people have learned to play it safe by being silent. They worked to muzzle us with masks while trying to pass it off as science. They shut down people's businesses and churches, leaving bars and big box stores open. Then they pushed unsafe, medical procedures and shamed people who wouldn’t comply. Now they are after our children! It is time for people to raise one voice against the agenda that would work to destroy society."
The Constitution is as written, period. Do not try to append or interpret based on your personal beliefs or biases, because you are no better than the left when you do so.
The Founding Fathers built this country with personal freedom in mind, and sin was not some new concept that only came around after the establishment of the Constitution.
The Founding Fathers believed in freedom and personal accountability; those who were God fearing believed the judgement would be handed down from God, not by other Americans.
Our roles were to protect freedom, not subvert and pervert it this way or that.
What principles and virtues were we founded upon that are unique to Christianity?
I am so tired of people cherry-picking parts of the Bible or Christianity to suit their behavior.
I've never understood why people get so upset over homosexuality. Every time I ask someone why they dislike homosexuals so much, the answer is inevitably something along the lines of "The Bible says God doesn't like it."
But why pick that one thing out of the long list of things God doesn't like? Because of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? If you go study the Bible, homosexuality isn't the only reason God punished them. They were generally evil people who were also thieves and murderers, adulterers, rapists, and idolaters. Remember that Lot, who God spared, offered up his own daughters to be gang raped to spare the angels. So there were a lot of sins to pick from there, but out of all of them, why pick homosexuals to fixate on?
Out of all the sins there, that's the only one that doesn't affect anyone else. To add modern sensibilities, if they're all consenting adults, who is it harming?
Yeah, I'm sure I'm going to hear several responses concerning grooming but guess what? There are also heterosexuals out there grooming kids.
If you (the general you, not you specifically) are truly concerned about children being sexually abused, then you need to look closer to home.
People don't want to hear it, but around 90% of all child sex abuse is done by family members or someone close to the family (coach, teacher, pastor, family friends, etc...). And the vast majority of those assaults are done by straight men. Pretty much every organization that works with child sex abuse survivors all have similar numbers. So if you're worried about groomers, you need to look at the people around you.
If people spent as much time paying attention to what is going on in their families as they do fretting about some gay people having a parade, there would be far fewer child sex assaults.
But people don't want to face the fact that the biggest threat to their children might be a loved one. Who would? It's heartbreaking and tears families apart.
It's easier to make a bunch of gay people twerking in a parade the Big Bad Boogymen. It might be easier but does virtually nothing to make your kids any safer.
I have read the Bible. There are less than a dozen references to homosexuals in there.
But take adultery for example. I lost count of how many references to adultery I read.
Let's look at what the Bible says should be the punishment for that.
Leviticus 20:10
10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:22
22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.
And of course from the 10 Commandments;
7
“Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
Exodus 20:14
So where is all the hatred for adulterers?
I don't see post after post about how adulterers are ruining the world.
Tell me how it's anything but hypocrisy, how you pick and choose from the Bible what to believe.
You aren't required to be open minded, but why do you get to decide how consenting adults are supposed to behave? Are you better than all of us? Why are your morals the correct morals?“
He also threatened to kill people for behavior that he has deemed “unAmerican” in this linked GAW post where he commented:
If I see anyone of any ethnicity behaving un-American, you risk getting the American boomstick. That's all there is to it. “
The only legal justification for shooting someone is to prevent the person from continuing an ongoing crime that endangers peoples’ lives. For GoingCamaro to assert that he doesn’t need to witness an attempted crime in progress to justify shooting someone but rather just witness behavior that he decides is unAmerican is so dumb that it’s most likely that he’s a cabal plant trying to make us distrustful of each other.
Lol. Get a life. You people take this shit way too seriously like talking here has some effect on the rest if the world.
There are two sides and only two sides: freedom and tyranny. And when you accept that you're capable of being as good as Jesus or being as evil as Hitler/Stalin/Mao, you start to understand that all this conflict is made up bullshit with one purpose and one purpose only: to divide and grind your spirit into dust.
When I understood this, I started spending less time here. Because this is just an interpretation of reality. Anyone of us could be a part of Q or not, but it doesn't matter. If there's a group of secret good guys fighting a silent war and the bad guys are losing, cool. But I realized my focus isn't the war. It's peace. And that's all our focus should be.
I don't judge people by groups anymore. I give individuals the benefit. Since those remarks, I learned of a man named Daryl Davis. He impressed members of the brotherhood and convinced them to leave the KKK through music and civil discourse. That is the evolution of warfare: return to the debate stage. Return to respect.
So no. I don't intend to kill anyone unless they try to harm me or anyone I care about. I'm not fighting any faction's war either. So individuals regardless of background get the benefit until they prove otherwise. Respect my right to exist and have ideas and I'll respect and defend yours.
Stop trying to control people. Live your life and be free. Jesus says to love our enemies... I'm trying. Easier said than done, but worth it so far.
If I see anyone of any ethnicity behaving un-American, you risk getting the American boomstick.“
Shooting people over your perception of unAmericanism is how you focus on peace?
Then you said:
I don't judge people by groups anymore. I give individuals the benefit. Since those remarks, I learned of a man named Daryl Davis. He impressed members of the brotherhood and convinced them to leave the KKK through music and civil discourse. That is the evolution of warfare: return to the debate stage. Return to respect.“
So since your remarks from 7 days ago, you no longer judge and threaten people for being your version of “unAmerican” because you heard of some deprogrammer who uses music and discourse? You had this transformative experience all in the last week?
I’m not the only one who’s on to your con. You tried to act like a violent great white savior, and now the protector of homosexuals, because you are using those types of activist causes as a vehicle for your own self promotion. When you got called out, you lied, and now you’re pretending to be peaceful and above it all. You’re either a self-serving narcissist or a cabal-serving troll.
You don't know who I am. You're just an over obsessed autist faggot contributing nothing of value to an anomymous board.
You're onto nothing. If I was what you pitifully claim u/Catsfive would have zapped me a long time ago. Cats knows I'm just a regular ass human like most everyone else.
So. I reject your baseless claims and you are pitiful person worthy of nothing, not even the dirt beneath your feet to try and defame an anon. There are people on Twitter less pathetic than you more worthy of my time. Good day.
Yeah I used to believe that crap, then I went out into the real world only to learn that "sin" is about personal struggle and to make laws around it goes against EVERYTHING Christ taught. Most people are just trying to live their lives in peace. Less than 1% of the human population is actually evil and yes there is a difference between sin and evil. Learn it.
You aren't required to be open minded, but why do you get to decide how consenting adults are supposed to behave? Are you better than all of us? Why are your morals the correct morals?
Christ says we are all equal. And He's right. He also preaches a message with heavy emphasis on individual choice and consequence. He's also pretty clear about selling all your possessions, picking up your cross and follow Him. No, you're too much of a coward to do that too? So again, what authority do you speak with to decide how everyone is supposed to live their lives?
There's a reason we have a Constitution and NOT the Bible as the law of the land. It is not yours or anyone's place to decide how people are supposed to behave. We aren't going back to the 90's and early 00s era of Christian thought policing. If you want that for yourself, you are free to subject yourself. Stop telling the rest of us how we're supposed to live.
Endorsing this action by Istanbul is extremely anti-American.
Shut up faggot; the overton window is shifting back and people are tired of this gay shit
I was going to say "this is about grooming children for abuse, not personal freedom," but I like how you put it better.
All the things God calls sin have a detrimental impact to the individual and to the society. This is one way, I find, to identify if something is sinful when the Bible is less than clear, as it sometimes is.
Further, sin is always evil. How could it be anything else? God is the basis of moral good. Good doesn't describe God, God describes good. As such, sin is the antithesis of God and is therefore evil.
There is no Biblical basis for differentiating between sin and evil. Sin is to miss the mark. God's Word is the mark. God's Word is perfect and good. To miss that mark would mean to be imperfect and not good. If something is not good, it is evil, as it is not of God who is the very concept of good.
Maybe instead of making snide and snarky comments like "learn it" while exuding an air of superiority while accusing people of acting better than others, you could actually present your view on sin vs evil? Revolutionary idea, I know...
As for consenting adults, they can have their gay butt sex in their own beds. They don't need to be parading around in public acting like they're so amazing for putting their dicks in ass or for cutting their dicks off.
Constitutional principles apply to the Biblical principles. For instance Muslims and sharia law. The first action of Sharia law is to kill LGBT people. That goes against Christianity and our Constitution.
Christian’s say repent but eventually if no repentance than action is required.
Muslims do not require repentance. They require their Sharia Law.
The separation of Church and State does not mean separate God. It is a wise move to separate the powers of government and the powers of Religion.
Christ was not religious is what you mean. The does and do nots of a religion is boring stuff. If a person is for Christianity they will desire to be against abortion and against sin by natural internal mechanisms.
Consider this verse. I like to see the leaders being responsible for the sheep.
Jeremiah 23:1
Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
Woe is what we shall see. The ones who knowingly confuse the innocent into doing sinful and harmful things to themselves like self mutilation, self sacrifice, bowing to idols because others say you are racist.
Those who do that will be held at a much higher offense. It is very exciting times.
""The first action of Sharia law is to kill LGBT people. That goes against Christianity and our Constitution.""
No it doesn't go against Christianity, most or many of them are Satanists, Practice Black Magic as WITCHES and such, are Pedos, and now we even see they Fuck Animals too....
So, Sodom and Gomorrah don't mean anything is what you're saying along with protect Satanists, Witches, and Luciferians, well why not come out and just say we should also place BLM and ANTIFA on pedestals and make Laws protecting them from being Killed or even prosecuted....
Hell, for that matter, lets just shred the U.S. Constitution and make Christianity Illegal, because you're too stupid to understand that the Constitution aligns with the Bible, mainly because the Bible is Historically the same as Vattels Law of Nations, the Books that the Founders used in Creating the U.S. Constitution....
And then you throw in a quote from the Bible???
You are a blasphemer, and don't try to come back at me with the bullshit line of ""You shall not Judge"", the bible was incorrectly translated in that, it should have been You shall not CONDEMN, we have the full Right to Judge, It is Gods domain to Condemn....
Get over yourself Righteousness Clown....
Discernment is interesting.
Intent is unfounded.
Many times through out history people believe they are judging righteousness correctly.
With wisdom we do not need to judge.
Mathew 7:1-3
We know people by their fruit. They judge themselves and we ought to learn how to see it.
Why would I judge any spirit of the devil? The spirit of the devil will use tactics that will only be obvious.
If you chose to judge others that is fine but with you is it possible you are only full of hate and categorize only yourself as righteous.
You do you. I am sure you have good intent. We all have different ways we see the same BS going on. As time goes on in the life we all make adjustments according to our own faith….
discernment dĭ-sûrn′mənt noun
The act or process of exhibiting keen insight and good>> judgment.<<
Keenness of insight and >>judgment.<<
Yeah....
And yet our country was and is based on Christian principles and virtues. If evil is not stopped, what is the result? How do we protect our most vulnerable? Are you good with the utter filth in the schools now? Do we sit back and approve of that? Do we allow our wide-open borders to stay open? Are we all equal there? This is what my pastor posted on facehole today: "Through our culture, people have learned to play it safe by being silent. They worked to muzzle us with masks while trying to pass it off as science. They shut down people's businesses and churches, leaving bars and big box stores open. Then they pushed unsafe, medical procedures and shamed people who wouldn’t comply. Now they are after our children! It is time for people to raise one voice against the agenda that would work to destroy society."
The Constitution is as written, period. Do not try to append or interpret based on your personal beliefs or biases, because you are no better than the left when you do so.
The Founding Fathers built this country with personal freedom in mind, and sin was not some new concept that only came around after the establishment of the Constitution.
The Founding Fathers believed in freedom and personal accountability; those who were God fearing believed the judgement would be handed down from God, not by other Americans.
Our roles were to protect freedom, not subvert and pervert it this way or that.
Well said. 👏👏👏
What principles and virtues were we founded upon that are unique to Christianity?
I am so tired of people cherry-picking parts of the Bible or Christianity to suit their behavior.
I've never understood why people get so upset over homosexuality. Every time I ask someone why they dislike homosexuals so much, the answer is inevitably something along the lines of "The Bible says God doesn't like it."
But why pick that one thing out of the long list of things God doesn't like? Because of the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? If you go study the Bible, homosexuality isn't the only reason God punished them. They were generally evil people who were also thieves and murderers, adulterers, rapists, and idolaters. Remember that Lot, who God spared, offered up his own daughters to be gang raped to spare the angels. So there were a lot of sins to pick from there, but out of all of them, why pick homosexuals to fixate on?
Out of all the sins there, that's the only one that doesn't affect anyone else. To add modern sensibilities, if they're all consenting adults, who is it harming?
Yeah, I'm sure I'm going to hear several responses concerning grooming but guess what? There are also heterosexuals out there grooming kids.
If you (the general you, not you specifically) are truly concerned about children being sexually abused, then you need to look closer to home.
People don't want to hear it, but around 90% of all child sex abuse is done by family members or someone close to the family (coach, teacher, pastor, family friends, etc...). And the vast majority of those assaults are done by straight men. Pretty much every organization that works with child sex abuse survivors all have similar numbers. So if you're worried about groomers, you need to look at the people around you.
If people spent as much time paying attention to what is going on in their families as they do fretting about some gay people having a parade, there would be far fewer child sex assaults.
But people don't want to face the fact that the biggest threat to their children might be a loved one. Who would? It's heartbreaking and tears families apart. It's easier to make a bunch of gay people twerking in a parade the Big Bad Boogymen. It might be easier but does virtually nothing to make your kids any safer.
Why the Homos???
Sodom and Gomorrah, as you mentioned....
But Jesus said how to punish Pedophiles....
God said Men and Women do not Dress in Clothing that doesn't pertain to the opposite SEX....
Go, read the Bible, You can find other references as to why Homos....
I have read the Bible. There are less than a dozen references to homosexuals in there.
But take adultery for example. I lost count of how many references to adultery I read.
Let's look at what the Bible says should be the punishment for that.
Leviticus 20:10
10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:22
22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.
And of course from the 10 Commandments;
7 “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” Exodus 20:14
So where is all the hatred for adulterers?
I don't see post after post about how adulterers are ruining the world.
Tell me how it's anything but hypocrisy, how you pick and choose from the Bible what to believe.
GoingCamaro says:
He also threatened to kill people for behavior that he has deemed “unAmerican” in this linked GAW post where he commented:
The only legal justification for shooting someone is to prevent the person from continuing an ongoing crime that endangers peoples’ lives. For GoingCamaro to assert that he doesn’t need to witness an attempted crime in progress to justify shooting someone but rather just witness behavior that he decides is unAmerican is so dumb that it’s most likely that he’s a cabal plant trying to make us distrustful of each other.
Lol. Get a life. You people take this shit way too seriously like talking here has some effect on the rest if the world.
There are two sides and only two sides: freedom and tyranny. And when you accept that you're capable of being as good as Jesus or being as evil as Hitler/Stalin/Mao, you start to understand that all this conflict is made up bullshit with one purpose and one purpose only: to divide and grind your spirit into dust.
When I understood this, I started spending less time here. Because this is just an interpretation of reality. Anyone of us could be a part of Q or not, but it doesn't matter. If there's a group of secret good guys fighting a silent war and the bad guys are losing, cool. But I realized my focus isn't the war. It's peace. And that's all our focus should be.
I don't judge people by groups anymore. I give individuals the benefit. Since those remarks, I learned of a man named Daryl Davis. He impressed members of the brotherhood and convinced them to leave the KKK through music and civil discourse. That is the evolution of warfare: return to the debate stage. Return to respect.
So no. I don't intend to kill anyone unless they try to harm me or anyone I care about. I'm not fighting any faction's war either. So individuals regardless of background get the benefit until they prove otherwise. Respect my right to exist and have ideas and I'll respect and defend yours.
Stop trying to control people. Live your life and be free. Jesus says to love our enemies... I'm trying. Easier said than done, but worth it so far.
You’re trying to claim this now:
But you made this comment 7 days ago:
Shooting people over your perception of unAmericanism is how you focus on peace?
Then you said:
So since your remarks from 7 days ago, you no longer judge and threaten people for being your version of “unAmerican” because you heard of some deprogrammer who uses music and discourse? You had this transformative experience all in the last week?
I’m not the only one who’s on to your con. You tried to act like a violent great white savior, and now the protector of homosexuals, because you are using those types of activist causes as a vehicle for your own self promotion. When you got called out, you lied, and now you’re pretending to be peaceful and above it all. You’re either a self-serving narcissist or a cabal-serving troll.
You don't know who I am. You're just an over obsessed autist faggot contributing nothing of value to an anomymous board.
You're onto nothing. If I was what you pitifully claim u/Catsfive would have zapped me a long time ago. Cats knows I'm just a regular ass human like most everyone else.
So. I reject your baseless claims and you are pitiful person worthy of nothing, not even the dirt beneath your feet to try and defame an anon. There are people on Twitter less pathetic than you more worthy of my time. Good day.
Lol. Cute.