🔥⚡ THE DEVIL IS RUNNING THE 🔹 CHURCH 🔹⚡🔥 THE VATICAN PLACES BISHOP JOSEPH STRICKLAND UNDER " INVESTIGATION" -- AFTER-- LEADING THE PRAYER MARCH AT DODGER STADIUM. 🔹 THIS 🌎 IS TRULY GOING NUCKING FUTS!
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This is why i don’t understand people on these boards who staunchly support the church and bible…. Christ never wanted to be idolized or treated as a god… he wanted his message of love and kindness to spread. It was man who corrupted that message. Man who canonized christ in order to control others. It was man who wrote the bible, to be used as a tool to control others, and it is man who have corrupted the church and religion to be the satanic pedo cesspool it is today… you can believe in christ , follow his ways, and spread the way to others without any of the aforementioned…
You are writing like someone who has never studied or read the bible.
You claim that the bible is not inspired by God. Is that claim based on your studies or is it based on what other people say about the bible?
You make this statement as if this was His message...Christ never wanted to be idolized or treated as a god… he wanted his message of love and kindness to spread.
Yet Jesus said, whoever follows me will be persecuted even to death. Do you know people that are being persecuted for being kind or loving to others?
You are called to follow Him. You are not called to follow a church.
No matter the obstacles that are put in your way God has promised that none of them will be too strong for you to overcome if you would just simply trust Him.
From what you have written one of your obstacles is your perception of the way others are walking or not walking with Him. That is hindering you from even looking to God.
I can say this to you because in the past that was me.
If this comes across as a little harsh please understand I am really talking to the old me. That person was lost and a little bitter.
Like I said you have been called to follow Him. Forget about what a church or anybody else says or doesn't say. That has nothing to do with you seeking HIm.
He offers himself to you freely. Just know this up front. What He offers is free but it will cost you everything.
This might not mean anything to you right now but sometime in the future you may remember this.
It is sort of like the Great Awakening. We have been given a gift. We know how this plays out in the end. Can we prove it without question to someone that is not Awakened? No we can't because they do not have eyes to see or ears to hear.
The gospel is exactly the same.
The gospel is free but it is not cheap. If you follow Him your old life will be destroyed. Everything will be made new. When you are ready just seek Him and He will be found.
Similar to the Great Awakening---Now that we know the truth we are "dead" to the old way of thinking. In a sense we have been made new.
You do that and you will have an amazing life. Screw religion, that stuff is worthless. At the same time seek others that are also seeking Him.
There is nothing wrong with going to a church. There is EVERYTHING wrong with replacing walking with God with church.
Amen!
Read the bible many times , grew up Roman Catholic, alter boy from 4th-8th grade… attended convent school to become a priest from 9th and 10th grade…. Decided it wasn't for me …. Still believe in christ… just know those who put their faith in man(book) vs christ is in danger of being misguided…
I am not sure what you mean by putting our faith in a book. Maybe you are saying that you believe that the Bible is not nor ever has been inspired by God. If that is the case I guess we would have to agree to disagree. The bible shows over and over again mans rebellion against God. It also shows over and over that God forgives . It is a repeating cycle.
The entire biblical story points to a redeemer.
Of course people have twisted the bible for their own ends. Others have twisted the bible by not understanding how the people at the time of the writing understood things.
Let's say today someone wrote something inspired about massive rain. That person wrote "it was raining cats and dogs".
Of course we would know what that means. 1000 years from now people would think that it really did rain cats and dogs.
https://bibleproject.com/explore/video/what-is-bible/
Then as a Catholic you should very well know that Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture and the magisterium is what we follow. It was never Bible alone. In fact, tradition and traditional mass was what preceded the Bible.
I really have not seen staunch support of the church here. Hopefully most of us know that the bible is a translation (room for error) and that many parts of the bible been removed and hidden from the people. However, you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater here, imo. The bible has profound instruction about our walk to become Christ-like. Our nation was founded on Christian principles. Therefore we should expect that people would embrace their core faith more profoundly in these challenging times. Reading parts of the Book of Revelation can be hair raising, eye opening and comforting all at the same time. What it tells most of us is that God has not forsaken us.
I agree religion has been for the most part corrupted and used as an instrument of control. People are taught to believe that Jesus is the only son of God. Yet He is quoted to say that we who follow him shall do greater works. Why would God make only one son? Aren't we all made in His imagine? Yet, there is only one Christ way and we are all welcome to walk that path.
I actually agree with this in many ways.
I’m a member of a nondenominational church and I always find it odd that most who attend nondenominational churches worship Jesus before God. Man,,,, was that a loaded statement!
When Jesus was asked “how do I pray?”, He stated “pray to your Father who is unseen”. Obviously, since Jesus was standing right there He wasn’t referring to Himself, but to God who is Heaven.
If interpreted correctly the Bible does say that Jesus said “I and the Father are one”. Yet, He never said He was God and early Christians didn’t say that either.
lol.
Jesus claimed to be God. In the Gospels, Jesus made several statements and took actions that indicated his divinity. While he did not explicitly say the words, "I am God," he made claims and used titles that were understood to be equating himself with God. Jesus saying "I AM" was Him saying He was God however. Jesus claimed to be God was by using the phrase "I AM," which is associated with God's self-identification in the Old Testament. In the Gospel of John, Jesus made several statements using "I AM" to assert his divinity.
For example, in John 8:58, Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I am." Here, he used the present tense "I am" to refer to his eternal existence, identifying himself with the same name that God used when speaking to Moses at the burning bush in Exodus 3:14. By using this phrase, Jesus implied his timeless and divine nature.
Furthermore, in John's Gospel, Jesus used several metaphors with "I AM" to describe himself, emphasizing his divine identity. He said, "I am the bread of life" (John 6:35), "I am the light of the world" (John 8:12), "I am the door" (John 10:9), "I am the good shepherd" (John 10:11), "I am the resurrection and the life" (John 11:25), "I am the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6), and "I am the true vine" (John 15:1). These statements convey Jesus' divine attributes and his central role in providing spiritual sustenance, guidance, and salvation.
By using the "I AM" statements and making these claims, Jesus equated himself with God, asserting his divinity.
One significant instance is found in the Gospel of John, where Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58). This statement echoes the name of God revealed to Moses in the Old Testament (Exodus 3:14) and suggests Jesus' eternal nature and divine existence. Additionally, Jesus referred to himself as the Son of God, which was understood as a claim to deity in the Jewish context of his time.
Furthermore, Jesus forgave sins, which was seen as an exclusive prerogative of God. In Mark 2:5-7, when Jesus forgave a paralyzed man's sins, the religious leaders accused him of blasphemy, as they recognized that only God had the authority to forgive sins.
Moreover, Jesus accepted worship from his disciples and others, which was reserved for God alone. In multiple instances, such as after his resurrection, people worshiped Jesus without him rebuking them or correcting their actions (e.g., Matthew 28:9, John 20:28).
These claims and actions, among others, led his followers to recognize and worship him as the divine Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity in Christian theology.
I could go alot deeper with many more examples but this is sufficient to prove you're wrong.
All early creeds and confessions of the church affirmed this historically. Your position is a classic form of heresy. The primary heresy that denies the divinity of Jesus is known as Arianism. Arianism is named after Arius, a Christian presbyter from Alexandria in the fourth century. Arius taught that Jesus, although a highly exalted being, was not fully God but rather a created being. According to Arianism, Jesus was the first and greatest of God's creations and was subordinate to the Father.
Arius' teachings gained significant attention and caused a major controversy within early Christianity. The Council of Nicaea in 325 AD was convened to address the issue, and it condemned Arianism as a heresy. The council formulated the Nicene Creed, which clearly affirms the full divinity of Jesus Christ, stating that Jesus is "begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father."
The rejection of Jesus' divinity is not limited to Arianism alone. Other heretical movements and groups throughout history, such as Socinianism and Jehovah's Witnesses, have also denied the full divinity of Jesus Christ, offering alternative understandings of his nature and role.
Orthodox Christian belief, as expressed in mainstream Christian denominations such as Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and most Protestant traditions, affirms the divinity of Jesus Christ and considers the denial of his divinity as heretical.
You need to repent. If you believe in a Jesus that is not God then you believe in a different Jesus. A Jesus that cannot save you.
Jesus did say that, but way before that (Exodus 3:14) God claimed that titled when He told Moses ..
Yeah, both are God. That's the point. No one but God uses that title.
God the Father & Jesus, God the Son
Notice Moses, unlike Jesus, didn't say he (Moses) was "I AM"?
HUGE category difference. Come on, you're better than that aren't you? That was either wildly inconsistent or intellectual dishonesty. Either way, not a good look.
Now address everything else because I took the time to slaughter your heretical position and false claims about the early church. I did this so you can be without excuse and hopefully repent or you WILL go to hell my friend. I don't want that and you certainly don't.
This isn't about being right or wrong, it's about alighting with scripture. Set aside your pride. You know you have no real argument at this point.
I agree, and the way i interpreted what you said… jesus said I and the father are one… but he was implying that we are all one with the father…. We are god as god is within us all….