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Vivek Ramaswamy: Not Constitutionally Eligible to be President (thenewamerican.com)
posted 2 years ago by kingbird 2 years ago by kingbird +44 / -0
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– ConspiracyLinks 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Didn't stop Obama

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– GDZeus 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Just gonna say, he probably thinks because Obama did it, he could too.

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– TheVerboten1 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

obama was a democrat.

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– kingbird [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Two very important points addressed in this article:

  1. Natural-Born Citizen Definition:

Book I, Chapter 19, Section 212 of The Law of Nations reads:

Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see, whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. [Emphasis added.]
  1. How this apply to the 14th Amendment?

Senator Jacob Merritt Howard (R-Mich.) was the principal architect of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment.

During the debates on the proposed amendment, Senator Howard insisted that the qualifying phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” be inserted into Section 1 of the 14th Amendment being considered by his colleagues. Howard explained the need for the alteration:

This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, [or] who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
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– Grady_Wilson 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction of" is the reason Indians born in the US were not US citizens until Congress passed the Snyder Act in 1924.

If Indians were denied citizenship, despite being born on reservation land that is overseen by the Feds, why would some anchor baby get instant citizenship?

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– Speak2Truth 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

John Bingham, framer of the 14th Amendment's first section, stated that Sec. 1992 of the Revised Statutes meant "every human being born within the jurisdiction of the US of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of the Constitution itself, a natural born citizen."

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– HenryBowman1984 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yep. Enough of the bleeding heart crap. Dropping spawn on US soil unless subject to jurisdiction of the USA means they’re aliens. Not subject to citizenship unless proper channels are used.

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– deleted 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0
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– Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Oh that's too bad, as I would never vote for him anyways.

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– Halya 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Same with Harris.

Where is Loretta Fuddy when you need her.

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– AmberWins 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Being snatched to the bottom of the sea by a frogman.

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– Dicyanin2C 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

☝️

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– GGRockz 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Didn't stop Obama.

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– raisedright4517 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That is because 90% of Republicans nuts are in a vice being squeezed by Deep State.

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– dougwiser 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

and he is a republican too sorry Vivek

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– kamalas_knees 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's real father, making Barry a national born citizen. Also a giant faggot.

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– kingbird [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

If the allegations are true, Obama was born in Kenya, so not a natural born citizen.

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– Speak2Truth 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, the still can't qualify because of his non-Citizen Father.

The qualification of "natural born citizen" was chosen to ensure that neither birth on foreign soil or to a foreign parent could give the person foreign allegiance by birth.

The purpose is well documented.

"...the term 'natural born citizen' is used and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states." - The New Englander and Yale Law Review, Volume 3 (1845), p. 414

Marco Rubio, Kamala Harris and Ted Cruz also cannot be President or Vice President.

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– MudPuddlePie 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Just try saying President Ramaswamy three times.

Every time I hear his name it reminds me of the scene (in one of the Marvel movies, can’t remember) where RD Jr. asks if anybody wants to go get some shawarma. 😂

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– Fefifofumdrum 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Sorry, but this is borderline absurd. His parents immigrated legally from India to Ohio, where he and his brother were born, making all of them American citizens.

You may not want to vote for him, but enough with the dumb BS already.

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– kingbird [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The Constitution is NOT an absurd document. Liberal democrats can pretend the Constitution does not matter, but not someone who call himself a Republican. We The People have this nation because of that document.

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– blueballs43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Apparently true?

so now what?

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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