I have a close friend who had a fully paid off property in Hawaii. It was a 3K square foot home right on the beach that was bought in the 80's and paid off throughout the years. The family retired and saw the prices of property in the area sky rocket over the years. The value of the home went up to 4M.
That said, this family had no means to cover the property taxes as everything in the area went up 10,000%. They were locals and hated the fact that all the silicon valley people were buying up all the land on the island in what they considered an invasion. They tried to fight the state on the property values and property taxes which they could no longer afford to pay. End result is they lost and unfortunately the Government seized their property before they could sell it.
It should be no surprise to anyone that news is now saying that the Government is going to land grab all of the displaced property on Hawaii. They have been doing it for awhile now. The sad news is that there is going to be no one left on these islands whom can afford to live there and work the jobs that keep that economy alive. Bye bye islands... and to fuckers like Zucherberg - good luck with owning half an island when there is no one on the other half who can afford to maintain it.
Makes me wonder if the taxes increased specifically to force locals out & allow only big money/potential pedos in?
Seems to me property taxes should be based on the value of the home when it was purchased & never go up. Though I am just a a lowly citizen that Government doesn't feel accountable to anymore.
Taxation is theft.
Property taxes only make debt slaves.
Over the years I have been able to get more normies to accept the idea I proposed rather than zero property tax.
The libertarian in me wants a zero tax system in place. Trump has shown tariffs work (which is a type of tax) so I will take any step towards removing government over reach until enough wake up to demand it all stop.
I am salty over property taxes specifically. I busted my ass for years, paid off my house, and was finally able to retire. Now I”m back at work specifically to pay my property taxes, which increased from $6000 to $7500 in the course of a single year.
I understand having to pay a certain amount of taxes for society to function. I have a major problem with the government being able to steal my property if I can’t pay my property tax. What if I fall on hard times? What if I die? Will my wife eventually be homeless? Don’t know how it varies in other states, but in Texas, you don’t really own your house.It’s total bullshit.
To your point, I agree with you. Tariffs were the historical way to go if not abused. Lincoln got greedy with tariffs and the South ended up seceding. There is a sick addiction amongst politicians who salivate over spending other people’s money.
Well, actually they make so much money with their fiat Ponzi scheme they could easily run the govt on that alone. But yes, if we return to a more fair and actual monetary system, fees & tariffs could fund the govt completely, once all agencies are eliminated & it has been slimmed down to what is actually needed.
They don’t specifically need to tax us directly. It’s just useful to get us peasants from getting too uppity.
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It's a tool of oppression which they target specific groups or even individuals and the random nature of getting audited is the perfect cover
I couldn't agree more. I figure between 0.5%-1% flat tax set at the time the home sells. Prices drop, too bad, prices go up, your tax burden does not.
Taking any home due to tax loss is despicable.
People have property taxes because these pedos/criminals have made these laws for their own convenience. Hopefully God intervenes this time.
They did the same thing to properties at Lake Tahoe. Elderly people that had lived there for decades were pushed out of their homes because they could no longer afford to pay the property taxes. Many of the same Zuckerbuck types own properties in Tahoe in more secluded areas.
My aunt is in So CA and the only reason she is still in her home was because of prop 13. She and my uncle purchased their home in 1961. If not for her taxes being capped, there is no way she could afford to live there.
All of us need to take note of this. Property taxes will be one of the ways many of us may be forced out. Major land grab and it is far from over.
Yup. Taxes suck, and is not just blue states. Look at Texas and Florida, it’s criminal.
But Texas has no income tax
Texas has retarded property taxes tho. There is no state income tax but they make up the money in school taxes and property taxes.
They also have an excellent school system compared to other states. I grew up in LA and TX, paid for private school in LA, not much property tax and public in TX, higher property tax.
I live in Florida and yes, the property prices have soared since COVID and there has been no adjustments to the property taxes which have also soared. This doesn't even address the problem of the home insurance which also skyrocketed. DeSantis brags about a budget surplus but has yet to tackle these real issues plaguing Florida citizens.
Desantis is a deep state asset. So far he is moving and acting like a Bush klan inbreed
Not how property taxes work in my town. Periodic reassessments keep the taxes ever increasing.
Either way , I’m in no position to fight for people who have property ocean front in Hawaii. I’ve got my own battles.
You don't own property if you have to pay rent to the government. It's just another form of communism.
Exactly. You don’t own shit if you pay a yearly tax. That’s called a lease. You only pay taxes on a car once….. why is land taxed yearly? Cus you don’t own it.
Small correction to OP, once they drive out the low wage earners they will import their slaves. Much cheaper.
Smart cities meant AI robot, if want depopulation, that won’t be too much slaves needed
There will be shanties out back to house the servants.
They want it for “them”. Like in the movie Elysium, paradise for them and the cattle get to live in waste and filth.
They're using crime and drugs to do this in other cities. If a real estate group cannot afford upkeep with insurance rates skyrocketing and lack of tenants, they turn the keys over to the lender who will sell it to someone like BlackRock. If a homeowner cannot afford to pay the property tax on an overstated value of a home, they're forced out of the neighborhood. It really sucks, but unfortunately without proof of a conspiracy to defraud the citizens- what can you do? In apartment complexes, the way to keep tenants is to rent to illegal immigrants, which many are doing. They operate as baby factories and each single family dwelling stores 3-4 last names.
TL;DR: Land grabs are happening all over the US leveraging local opportunities, depending on political infrastructure.
This is part of how they will turn those places into smart cities. Once they have driven the middle class out, they will fire sale what once was prime expensive real estate on the cheap. Many of the areas are in economic development zones and will be built on the tax payer dime. Once they have built the digital prisons, the flow will be reversed. The homeless, criminals, and drug addicted, will probably be disappeared since they serve no further purpose. Eminent domain, property taxes, environmental condemnation, changed zoning, etc, will be used to displace property owners to force them into the prison zones. The mechanisms are already in place. Very few were paying attention when their counties and cities made the changes to get onboard with Agenda 21 sustainable development.
This is coming fast and furious folks and in many ways we are on the back foot. It will be hard for individuals to fight back on their own against this machine. The fog of war has everyone pulled in different directions and not knowing what the priorities are because there are so many fronts of assault. Keeping our homes is a top priority and the game is already rigged against us. Smarter people than me need to come up with some strategies to fight this and we need to do it soon. What they have done to Lahaina is chilling.
Now the billionaires can rebuild Maui to “THEIR” standards. No middle class allowed only the mega rich. I’ve been to Maui numerous times. First time 47 years ago. Only place that I know that a lower income person (natives) can have a multimillion piece of ocean front property. Take a look of what happen to the Black family beach front property taken away https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/accessibility/547792-black-familys-beachfront-ca-property-seized-during-jim/ Take a look at American Indians in Florida land taken away Which Native American tribe left for Florida after losing their land? There were about 5,000 Seminole Indians who claimed Florida's 32 million acres of land as their own. In 1823 under the treaty of Moultrie Creek, they gave up their claim which resulted in reducing their land to 4 millions acres, with no access to their cultivated lands, game, and either ocean. Take a look at African American slaves land taken away in Florida for condos https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eatonville-florida-residents-fight-over-land/ Fake President (F) Joe Biden wants another 24 billion for Ukraine what’s so IRONIC is Maui is a democrat town.
Your last sentence about Maui being a Democrat town. I watched the interview of RFK Jr with Tucker last night. GOP has the rap of "party of the rich' traditionally, but now it has flipped. It is a 70/30 split. Ultimately, IMHO, it is all uni-party, but there are quite a few people that need that shit hammered into their heads that the this is not your father's party.. Matyve Maui will wake a few more up, but tragically. what a cost...
Time to unite and kick billionaire whitey out of Hawaii islands. Island’s should have never became statehood.
I’ll be doing a write up including this subject. So good warm up Anon! I’ll mention this in my info as well and link this.
They burn it and deem it inhabitable. Then it’s theirs automatically. 👀👀👀
Give up your right to own guns and DO WHAT I SAY “BITCH”
Its not the government...its cash rich private businesses buying up the land. Investors.
Government and business are one and the same. Fascism.
If you look around, it's starting to happen everywhere. This is likely why blackrock was buying up all that property at over value prices. That way property tax is pushed up.
Property taxes assure you that you never own your home.
Exactly THIS! 👆
I think a good start would be removal of the income tax, property tax, and federal tax. Property taxes make no sense, you pay for 15-30 years to finally own your home outright but if you’re behind on taxes the government can take it? Baloney.
They will always have their minions. Look at Washington's minions.
I'm truly sorry for your friends... heartbreaking! 💔
Just imagine how many others have experienced this very same or similar thing. What on earth are the locals doing?
"...to fuckers like Zucherberg - good luck..." They'll just import their own illegal serfs who will own nothing and slave their asses off.
I believe in Capitalism in a free and fair market, but I believe there should be a cap on the amount of property 1 person can own. Oprah and others should not be able to own so much land. Also there should be a cap on amount prop tax can raise on a person if they don't refinance. People should be getting discounts on prop tax if they live in same house for decades not the opposite.