Such a weird story all the way around when you jump into that rabbit hole.
IF there was anyone in the world that can pull off faking their own death with their wife... Would not the son of an assassinated POTUS by the same people said President who both come from a wealthy and prestigious family be one such person. Who's mother, the widow-witness to the assassination, then married a man who was one of the wealthiest men in the world?
I don't know one way or the other if he did such a thing.... but I still think it would make a helluva legendary tale to share with the people for many centuries.
Exactly! I cannot believe an intelligent man who had access to money would simply wait to be killed. There was purportedly a Million dollar hit put out on him. It seems to me, the easiest and best way to save his life was to fake his death.
My thoughts exactly. He first spoke out that he was bringing his father's killers to justice if he had to take down the whole government. Then he named his Magazine George and it wasn't George Washington.....just another way he was warning them that he "KNEW". then he announced his bid for the NY Senate seat that HRC wanted. He would have had to be dumb as a ROCK to do all of that and expect that they would not come for him, after all he had seen his dad killed, his uncle killed and Martin Luther King. He KNEW what he was up against and to wave the red flag in the face of the bull would have been stupid and I don't think he was a stupid man. I believe he was a "man with a plan" and I have a feeling that he is probably the main one on the Q teams. We were told 3 civilians and 6 military. And I believe it all loops back and connects to his friendship with DJT. You are correct, HardworkinPatriot
JFK Jr was not her opponent because JFK Jr was not running for any office. The NY Democrats had lined up behind Congresswoman Nita Lowey from Westchester. She was the front runner if Clinton didn't step in.
Source I lived in NY at the time and remember discussing this on Summer vacation at the lake. The folks in the cabin next door were from Westchester. People were sitting around the campfire talking about the carpetbagger Clinton.
JFK Jr was not yet capable of winning a statewide race in nyc
And does this mean he is really dead and not going to pop up at some time to become Trump's VP? Because that is still being said by some people. Which I've never understood, because JFK, Jr. was a lifelong liberal and Democrat.
PS- I wanted to add that he had not even officially entered the race. There was a lot of speculation about him running for Senate and his name was mentioned all the time when political pundits talked about the vacancy, but he never formally announced he was running.
He was known as a hot guy who liked to roller skate shirtless in Central Park.....which the tabloids loved....the guy who almost lost a job with the District Attorney because he couldn't pass the bar exam and then a guy who had an unsuccessful magazine.
This stuff about him actually running for office was only talked years later.
Yeah, I realized after I read through that article that he never ran at all. It's crazy how things like that works its way into your head. Even though I remembered all that stuff from when it happened, I've seen so many people here say he ran for that office, it just got stuck in my head.
I still don't understand why anyone would think he would be a good VP for President Trump. I know there was that whole weird thing going around about him not really being dead and was going to come back and Trump was going to make him his VP.
Why would anyone want him as a VP? He was a liberal. I just don't get it.
It came from Liz Crokin. She did a video where basically she got horny for JFK Jr.. ..(I guess I might do the same if I was a woman, he's a good looking dude.) and it took off from there.
You're right that it didn't come from Q, but I know there were a lot of Anons who believed it and went a little overboard about it. And there are still a few people here who seem to still think it's true.
I also remember when it happened. There was a lot of gossip about Carolyn not wanting him to go into the Senate right then. They had just gotten married and she was having a lot of trouble adjusting to being in the spotlight and their relationship was being strained because of that. She didn't want to become even more of a public figure, which is what would happen if Jr. had become a Senator.
But that's just my memory, sooo...
I think there might be a paywall to the article, so here it is:
"John F. Kennedy Jr. was sought out as a possible candidate for a Senate seat from New York but declined to run even before Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed interest in the race, according to a Senator who spoke with him.
Senator Robert G. Torricelli, the New Jersey Democrat who is chairman of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, said he called Mr. Kennedy after Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan announced last November that he would not seek re-election in 2000.
Senator Torricelli said Mr. Kennedy told him he might be interested later but the timing was not right and he would not seek the seat. This was more than a month before Mrs. Clinton's name emerged as a possibility.
''The speculation that John Kennedy was not a candidate for the U.S. Senate because of Hillary Clinton is not accurate,'' Senator Torricelli said in an interview today.
''John Kennedy was an obvious possible choice,'' said Senator Torricelli, who helps to recruit Senate candidates and raise money for them and who was among the first to mention Mrs. Clinton's name publicly in February. He said he also spoke with Mr. Kennedy's cousin, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an environmental lawyer in New York, as well as with Andrew M. Cuomo, the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and the son of former Gov. Mario M. Cuomo, and with H. Carl McCall, the State Comptroller, but they were cool to the idea.
Of John Kennedy, Mr. Torricelli said: ''He listened carefully, he was attentive to the suggestions, he approached it thoughtfully and seriously. But his response was, it might be an interest he had in his life but the timing wasn't right, that it was something to be approached again in a matter of years.''
Senator Torricelli said he called Mr. Kennedy twice about the matter, but then dropped it because he was clearly not interested. But the Senator also said that Mr. Kennedy appeared to be using his magazine, George, as a vehicle to become more familiar with public policy issues and that this was perhaps a way to lay the groundwork for a future run for office."
OK, while I'm fascinated with the fact that he hadn't thrown his hat in the ring, I realize this is the NYT. I'm off to search for a second source on this.
It might be a better use of your time looking for evidence he ever entered the race in the first place.
You could start with the DNC records concerning that election. It's an official process to enter as a candidate in a political party. And they keep records of that.
Well, perhaps I could find some random person on Twitter who just says it and post that for you.
That seems to work well enough as evidence here.
Do you think the Kennedy family, one of the most prestigious and powerful families in the US wouldn't have made it known that this NYT article was lying about JFK Jr not running for Senate if he had been?
You seem upset that a researcher on a research board would be inclined to research a topic you posted evidence for from a known source of disinformation.
I'm not upset about that at all. But considering this is supposed to be a research board, perhaps we should have a higher standard of evidence than randos on Twitter just claiming something and it being taken as the truth?
Why is it that people are so ready to believe something just because a Twitter post is linked here? This is not the first time I've seen this happen. Or even the 50th.
My point was that what people deem as acceptable sources varies wildly here. Anonymous, badly pieced together video found on Twitter is enough to convince someone, while a DSCC official making a statement in a top newspaper is met with doubt.
And yes, I know it's the NYT, and most people here think they're liars....until the NYT says something they like, and only then are they deemed credible. But only for that one article.
If you're looking for more evidence, I'd just suggest that it's easier to prove a positive than it is to prove a negative. By this, I mean that it would be easier to find evidence that he was running for Senate before he died, if that was true.
To run for Senate as a Democrat, he would have to jump through all kinds of hoops with the DNC. They keep records of that sort of thing. So you can look there.
Or even do a web search for any news of him announcing he was going to run. That would 100% have made the news at the time, if it had happened.
BTW - Funny what you say about the DNC. They are doing that exact thing to RFK right now. He probably has to go independant or onto Trumps ticket.
I still think Hillary is evil of course. lol
And in a way, I do think JRK Jr. was destined for President someday and was a problem to those who took out his father.
Yes, I corrected myself on that. If you read the entire conversation, you will see why.
Just to save you the time and trouble of finding the post I'm talking about, here is where I corrected myself.
Yeah, I realized after I read through that article that he never ran at all. It's crazy how things like that works its way into your head. Even though I remembered all that stuff from when it happened, I've seen so many people here say he ran for that office, it just got stuck in my head.
He hired an exploratory committee on running for New York governor. It was no secret he would have been the frontrunner by a mile. Polls are often done long before a candidate throws official hat in ring.
I dont think you know the body politic in ny back then. He was as famous and well known as ever. Forming an exloratory committee is throwing hat in ring, except legally. Anyone in politics knows this. Its like kneecapping a runner in a foot race before it officially starts. They say "runners, on your marks, get set..." but he is beat up before they say "go," And then claiming, "well he didnt technically enter the race yet." Saying he wasnt running is a destraction. Hillary didnt spontaneously announce her candidacy either. She too had her exploratory set up. Officially announcing has legal advantages and other ramifications.
Not as well known, Caroline Kennedy also later explored ny senate (against hillary) but bowed to pressure, instead taking some ambassador position years later.
Exactly. Sometimes I wonder how young most Anons are and how long they've been following politics. Or even gossip.
I remember when all this happened. It was well known that Carolyn didn't want him to go into the Senate then because she was not happy with all the attention she was getting for marrying Jr. She didn't want any more attention, which is what would happen if he ran for Senate.
It is facts like this that reinforces my belief that HRC is not walking free. I truly believe the HRC we see on occasion today is AI generated or pre-recorded for future use. To allow a monster like her roam free is a risk to public safety.
President Trump calls her beautiful Hillary today, perhaps a hint that she has been planted in the ground as worm food.
ONE CORRECTION:
Seth died at the hospital.
Ask Donna Brazille
Did he die? His room had been cleared out. Could he have been taken into witness protection? IDK
Scratch your nose?
"Reportedly died"
Such a weird story all the way around when you jump into that rabbit hole.
IF there was anyone in the world that can pull off faking their own death with their wife... Would not the son of an assassinated POTUS by the same people said President who both come from a wealthy and prestigious family be one such person. Who's mother, the widow-witness to the assassination, then married a man who was one of the wealthiest men in the world?
I don't know one way or the other if he did such a thing.... but I still think it would make a helluva legendary tale to share with the people for many centuries.
Exactly! I cannot believe an intelligent man who had access to money would simply wait to be killed. There was purportedly a Million dollar hit put out on him. It seems to me, the easiest and best way to save his life was to fake his death.
My thoughts exactly. He first spoke out that he was bringing his father's killers to justice if he had to take down the whole government. Then he named his Magazine George and it wasn't George Washington.....just another way he was warning them that he "KNEW". then he announced his bid for the NY Senate seat that HRC wanted. He would have had to be dumb as a ROCK to do all of that and expect that they would not come for him, after all he had seen his dad killed, his uncle killed and Martin Luther King. He KNEW what he was up against and to wave the red flag in the face of the bull would have been stupid and I don't think he was a stupid man. I believe he was a "man with a plan" and I have a feeling that he is probably the main one on the Q teams. We were told 3 civilians and 6 military. And I believe it all loops back and connects to his friendship with DJT. You are correct, HardworkinPatriot
I fully agree with your assessment! Thank you!
JFK Jr was not her opponent because JFK Jr was not running for any office. The NY Democrats had lined up behind Congresswoman Nita Lowey from Westchester. She was the front runner if Clinton didn't step in.
Source I lived in NY at the time and remember discussing this on Summer vacation at the lake. The folks in the cabin next door were from Westchester. People were sitting around the campfire talking about the carpetbagger Clinton.
JFK Jr was not yet capable of winning a statewide race in nyc
But, but, there's a TWITTER video with some stranger saying he did! How can you argue against such compelling evidence as that?
This was sarcasm, for those that didn't catch on to it.
Wouldn't need a rope for her if he is alive and walked through the door. Live stream!
JFK Jr. dropped out of the race before he died.
And does this mean he is really dead and not going to pop up at some time to become Trump's VP? Because that is still being said by some people. Which I've never understood, because JFK, Jr. was a lifelong liberal and Democrat.
PS- I wanted to add that he had not even officially entered the race. There was a lot of speculation about him running for Senate and his name was mentioned all the time when political pundits talked about the vacancy, but he never formally announced he was running.
It's not even that he dropped out.
He was never in the race. He just wasn't viable candidate at that point in his life.
https://www.deseret.com/1990/5/1/18859239/john-kennedy-jr-fails-bar-exam-2nd-time-says-he-ll-take-it-again
He was known as a hot guy who liked to roller skate shirtless in Central Park.....which the tabloids loved....the guy who almost lost a job with the District Attorney because he couldn't pass the bar exam and then a guy who had an unsuccessful magazine.
This stuff about him actually running for office was only talked years later.
Yeah, I realized after I read through that article that he never ran at all. It's crazy how things like that works its way into your head. Even though I remembered all that stuff from when it happened, I've seen so many people here say he ran for that office, it just got stuck in my head.
I still don't understand why anyone would think he would be a good VP for President Trump. I know there was that whole weird thing going around about him not really being dead and was going to come back and Trump was going to make him his VP.
Why would anyone want him as a VP? He was a liberal. I just don't get it.
The JFK Jr thing did not come from Q.
It came from Liz Crokin. She did a video where basically she got horny for JFK Jr.. ..(I guess I might do the same if I was a woman, he's a good looking dude.) and it took off from there.
You're right that it didn't come from Q, but I know there were a lot of Anons who believed it and went a little overboard about it. And there are still a few people here who seem to still think it's true.
Sauce on him dropping out? I have never heard that. Thx
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/07/20/us/kennedy-s-plane-lost-politics-kennedy-rebuffed-overture-senate-race-torricelli.html
I also remember when it happened. There was a lot of gossip about Carolyn not wanting him to go into the Senate right then. They had just gotten married and she was having a lot of trouble adjusting to being in the spotlight and their relationship was being strained because of that. She didn't want to become even more of a public figure, which is what would happen if Jr. had become a Senator.
But that's just my memory, sooo...
I think there might be a paywall to the article, so here it is:
"John F. Kennedy Jr. was sought out as a possible candidate for a Senate seat from New York but declined to run even before Hillary Rodham Clinton expressed interest in the race, according to a Senator who spoke with him.
Senator Robert G. Torricelli, the New Jersey Democrat who is chairman of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, said he called Mr. Kennedy after Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan announced last November that he would not seek re-election in 2000.
Senator Torricelli said Mr. Kennedy told him he might be interested later but the timing was not right and he would not seek the seat. This was more than a month before Mrs. Clinton's name emerged as a possibility.
''The speculation that John Kennedy was not a candidate for the U.S. Senate because of Hillary Clinton is not accurate,'' Senator Torricelli said in an interview today.
''John Kennedy was an obvious possible choice,'' said Senator Torricelli, who helps to recruit Senate candidates and raise money for them and who was among the first to mention Mrs. Clinton's name publicly in February. He said he also spoke with Mr. Kennedy's cousin, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an environmental lawyer in New York, as well as with Andrew M. Cuomo, the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development and the son of former Gov. Mario M. Cuomo, and with H. Carl McCall, the State Comptroller, but they were cool to the idea.
Of John Kennedy, Mr. Torricelli said: ''He listened carefully, he was attentive to the suggestions, he approached it thoughtfully and seriously. But his response was, it might be an interest he had in his life but the timing wasn't right, that it was something to be approached again in a matter of years.''
Senator Torricelli said he called Mr. Kennedy twice about the matter, but then dropped it because he was clearly not interested. But the Senator also said that Mr. Kennedy appeared to be using his magazine, George, as a vehicle to become more familiar with public policy issues and that this was perhaps a way to lay the groundwork for a future run for office."
OK, while I'm fascinated with the fact that he hadn't thrown his hat in the ring, I realize this is the NYT. I'm off to search for a second source on this.
It might be a better use of your time looking for evidence he ever entered the race in the first place.
You could start with the DNC records concerning that election. It's an official process to enter as a candidate in a political party. And they keep records of that.
Much, much simpler is Google news lets you do searches for specific times. Super helpful for research.
So you can search for news articles from back then with out getting flooded with search results from now
Here's what That Senate race looked like
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/keyraces2000/stories/lowey030299.htm
https://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/05/25/lowey.hillary/
A Democrat Exits for the Undeclared Clinton
This is a great tip! Thanks so much for sharing it.
Well, perhaps I could find some random person on Twitter who just says it and post that for you.
That seems to work well enough as evidence here.
Do you think the Kennedy family, one of the most prestigious and powerful families in the US wouldn't have made it known that this NYT article was lying about JFK Jr not running for Senate if he had been?
You seem upset that a researcher on a research board would be inclined to research a topic you posted evidence for from a known source of disinformation.
Calm down, fren. The truth will out.
I'm not upset about that at all. But considering this is supposed to be a research board, perhaps we should have a higher standard of evidence than randos on Twitter just claiming something and it being taken as the truth?
Why is it that people are so ready to believe something just because a Twitter post is linked here? This is not the first time I've seen this happen. Or even the 50th.
My point was that what people deem as acceptable sources varies wildly here. Anonymous, badly pieced together video found on Twitter is enough to convince someone, while a DSCC official making a statement in a top newspaper is met with doubt.
And yes, I know it's the NYT, and most people here think they're liars....until the NYT says something they like, and only then are they deemed credible. But only for that one article.
It's ridiculous.
Become a mod. Raise the bar.
Thx. A bit shocking as it is a common thing discussed. I will look for more on this. Thx again.
You're welcome.
If you're looking for more evidence, I'd just suggest that it's easier to prove a positive than it is to prove a negative. By this, I mean that it would be easier to find evidence that he was running for Senate before he died, if that was true.
To run for Senate as a Democrat, he would have to jump through all kinds of hoops with the DNC. They keep records of that sort of thing. So you can look there.
Or even do a web search for any news of him announcing he was going to run. That would 100% have made the news at the time, if it had happened.
Appreciated again and point taken.
BTW - Funny what you say about the DNC. They are doing that exact thing to RFK right now. He probably has to go independant or onto Trumps ticket.
I still think Hillary is evil of course. lol And in a way, I do think JRK Jr. was destined for President someday and was a problem to those who took out his father.
You said he dropped out before he died then you said he never entered the race.
Yes, I corrected myself on that. If you read the entire conversation, you will see why.
Just to save you the time and trouble of finding the post I'm talking about, here is where I corrected myself.
He hired an exploratory committee on running for New York governor. It was no secret he would have been the frontrunner by a mile. Polls are often done long before a candidate throws official hat in ring.
We're talking about the seat in the Senate. Not governor.
I'm not sure how accurate your opinion is that he would have easily won. That just doesn't jibe with the general attitude at the time.
Either way, he never officially entered the race for the Senate seat.
I dont think you know the body politic in ny back then. He was as famous and well known as ever. Forming an exloratory committee is throwing hat in ring, except legally. Anyone in politics knows this. Its like kneecapping a runner in a foot race before it officially starts. They say "runners, on your marks, get set..." but he is beat up before they say "go," And then claiming, "well he didnt technically enter the race yet." Saying he wasnt running is a destraction. Hillary didnt spontaneously announce her candidacy either. She too had her exploratory set up. Officially announcing has legal advantages and other ramifications.
Not as well known, Caroline Kennedy also later explored ny senate (against hillary) but bowed to pressure, instead taking some ambassador position years later.
Here is discussion on JFK Jr:
https://people.com/politics/jfk-jr-would-have-been-president-friend-says/
And even so, he never officially put in for a run for Senate.
Yeah, like the girl who said she was a virgin for only allowing anal and blowjobs.
Fact-checked.
I read somewhere that 7/10 plane crashes are not accidents.
can someone post this on rumble where the rest of us can get it?
Try this. This is a new thing on Twitter called reseeit I don't know if it's going to work but I hope it does work for you so you can see it
https://resee.it/tweet/1707196411199045958
thanks, I'll check it out, but if thats only for X subscribers It may not work. but I will check it out anyway.
Found out this only works if someone registered on X "saves" the file to reseeit. not on X, no go.
hey, resee it worked. neat. the number is the number of the X post I guess. I can download it from resee it.
Probably taken down because the premise, that JFK Jr was running against Clinton, is bogus. He had already dropped out of the race.
Exactly. Sometimes I wonder how young most Anons are and how long they've been following politics. Or even gossip.
I remember when all this happened. It was well known that Carolyn didn't want him to go into the Senate then because she was not happy with all the attention she was getting for marrying Jr. She didn't want any more attention, which is what would happen if he ran for Senate.
Why des this video look like it's from the 80s
It is facts like this that reinforces my belief that HRC is not walking free. I truly believe the HRC we see on occasion today is AI generated or pre-recorded for future use. To allow a monster like her roam free is a risk to public safety.
President Trump calls her beautiful Hillary today, perhaps a hint that she has been planted in the ground as worm food.
With quote marks ;)
Yes and Bush was MIA during that period .