History is Absolute. Every single country that has disarmed The Citizen, has automatically enslaved them by taking their rights and or KILLING Millions at Will. THAT IS The ONLY reason for 'gun control', because Not One elected official in any country, state or city is actually Stupid enough to actually believe, that a single Criminal will disarm and NOT commit crimes, because a new magic law says, he can Not commit his usual Murder. History also Proves that The Armed citizen is NOT the reason for crime and Never has been. When They come for your firearms, they are Now criminals. Shoot them.
I'm pretty sure this is the case in most countries, including the U.S.A. Even if prison is not explicitly written in law, I remember instances where people were left in jail or subject to fines until they coughed up encryption keys. Or at least threatened with the above.
However, how anyone could make the first post with a straight face after COVID is beyond me.
Me and plenty of my family and mates are armed, it's not hard, there's actually a big gun culture in Aus, there's something wrong with you if you don't have guns, where I live anyway.
It's not too many hoops to jump through if you don't mind the state being able to come onto your property, without warrant, at any time. It's also not the norm for the bulk of the population.
Also, there is absolutely no provision to own a firearm for self defense, so if that is your reason you have to spin-shite about hunting or sports shooting. There is no concealed carry unless you are headed to the range or on the way to a hunt. Hanging around on the farm with your personal long rifles does not equal a vibrant gun culture.
This is NOT a consequence of gun control in Australia.
Gun Control issue is something like issue 27 in a run of 40 issues that cumulatively have led from point A to point Q.
For the record, (because some mod stickied this), it's really disappointing, if not discouraging, when people who know basically ZERO (relatively) about the Australian situation make pronouncements based on their lack of knowledge and weak assumptions, simply because all they can see is "gun laws".
I won't belabor the discussion, because its been discussed numerous times here before, but Ausanons and other anons know how flawed and simplistic this sort of view is.
But allow me to illustrate:
One consequence of America having no guns is the existence of the Federal Reserve which essentially owns America. Oh, wrong. America has guns. So, how did the Federal Reserve come into being then? I don't get it. Surely it could not exist because America has guns!!!!??
America has guns. So, how did the Federal Reserve come into being then?
Agreed. The gun control argument is flawed with several bad assumptions.
It assumes that because we have guns, that we can "defend our freedom." This is false. The military has weapons so far above ours, if it really came down to it, the US Govt could win a war against the people so fast it would make our collective heads spin. Of course, the collective would have a whole lot fewer heads that could spin at that point, which is a deterrent (maybe), but there is no way we, with our hunting rifles and hand guns, could defend ourselves against the true levels of the technology of the US Armed forces. And that's just the tech we know about. Who knows what is really out there.
As you reasonably point out, the only thing that us keeping our guns has given us is a more complicated illusion. The Grand Illusion in America is so powerful, we believe that we are free. Nothing could be further from the truth.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Welcome to the land of the "free," and the home of the idiots who think that bravery and a deer rifle will save them from guided Jericho missiles, tanks that can withstand a nuclear strike, tactical nukes, or maybe even Rods from God, or Lasers from Space.
Stand off against a B2 Bomber with your thirty ought six. See how that works out for ya.
This is why Q asks:
How do you capture a very dangerous animal?
Who is best to conduct the attack?
What is the one force necessary to retain control?
Why does the US Military play such a vital role in this global game of RISK?
The military is the only way to win a war against an entity so deeply entrenched.
It was a metaphor. No matter how many submachine guns you or your neighbor may have, if the military comes down on We The People with the full intent to win, the people will be like ants biting an elephant. And I don't mean fire ants, I mean the little black ones you can barely see. The actual hardware discrepancy is far beyond what most people realize or think about.
The first part of winning any war is understanding the reality of the situation. Read Sun Tzu. It will tell you everything you need to know. If you go in with a false belief of the situation, you are guaranteed to lose. That is, I suggest, why we believe in this particular Illusion. It guarantees our loss.
We are guaranteed to lose a hot war. We can however win an information war if the information channels are opened and not themselves controlled. That is exactly what the Q team said they have done; open the communication channels. The real battle is in the minds of men. The real weapon is information. If you understand that, and you work to destroy the illusion (all of the illusions), then you can win the war.
Give up? Hell no, just fight the right battle, and show everyone else what that right battle is, and how to win it.
maybe so but why do you think the military had such a problem in Viet Nam? beyond the political BS...the military was not trained in urban guerilla warfare thats why...take out a few and viola you have many of the same weapons they have...if it came to a throw down it wouldnt be as easy to thwart the people as you think it might be...a hunting rifle lol...yes it can take down a plane if you know where to hit it...drop a cocktail down the hatch of a tank and see what happens.....desperate times would call for desperate measures....so dont be so sure it would be a cake walk for them...there are many patriots with many skills that could do a shitload of damage to a woke military.........just sayin
why do you think the military had such a problem in Viet Nam?
Wars are not fought to be won. We were never intended to win Viet Nam or any other war. Wars are fought to create chaos, fear, death, sow discord, make people believe in certain things. War is nothing but a propaganda piece, a play, with some depopulation and eugenics thrown in as a bonus. They are designed to create the illusion of conflict, or in some cases, those that have any "reality" at all, to install central banks and ensure that a country signs the United Nations treaty, regardless of the victor (which is exactly what happened in Viet Nam when we "lost").
The entire Cold War was one of the greatest scams ever created. The USSR (like the US) was created by Rockefeller and Rothschild, and controlled by them the entire time. It was a boogieman, created by them specifically to set up the wars, to ensure the subjugation of other countries. It didn't matter who won, the Cabal won. Every single war, like Viet Nam, that was done under the auspices of "stopping Communism" was theatre, designed for the purposes I stated. It was never intended to be "won."
There has not been a single war in at least 250 years that was not funded and armed, both sides, by the Cabal. Anything you think you know about any war that does not take that into account is based on false premises.
a hunting rifle lol...yes it can take down a plane if you know where to hit it
Can you take down a B2 bomber flying at 50,000 feet dropping WMDs? And that's just the 30 year old tech we know about. No, there is NO CHANCE, our weapons v. theirs. We are as cave men to the real might of our military. People see the ineffectiveness of our wars and think that has anything to do with the reality.
As I said, wars are intentionally not won, every single one. Just because the prize fighter keeps throwing the fight doesn't mean he doesn't carry a can of Whoop Ass in his pocket if he really needs it.
They have stated, numerous times, that they want to reduce the population to less than a billion. I doubt they would drop nukes, but there are plenty of weapons they can use that don't destroy the planet. In general though, I agree. "If" they go that route we are fucked, which was exactly my point: they can go that route. That assumes that the military would be compliant, but in general people don't think they can. Thinking that they wouldn't is possibly true (the military is our family and neighbors and/or us), but thinking that they can't is an illusion.
My point was we live under an illusion of our prowess when compared to the military. The movie we call "Viet Nam", as your protest itself shows, was designed to create that illusion. It is repeated constantly, in certain circles, with propaganda and memes, to enforce that illusion in the belief systems of the would be "freedom fighters." It is just another form of controlled opposition, controlling those who would fight the system, giving a false hope, perpetuating The Matrix.
The Matrix controls all beliefs, not just "The Left," or "The Right," but the anarchists, the truthers, all the various religions, etc. It's a hard pill to swallow, but what you find when you investigate the control systems (and usually the origins themselves) of every group is the exact same source.
If people stake their real fortunes together they can afford more than what the governments fake money could buy, if the people stop giving up their blood willingly to those vampires. All of a sudden they can't print or borrow anything. That's why they are so desperate to fragment society in as many factions as possible.
The machine would absolutely lose a direct battle with the people. If not they already would have started the war.
Well, no, I think there is much more to it than that. The potential for civil resistance and urban guerrilla warfare is very high in the USA, which is a very good thing, imo. And, to some extent, it has no doubt played a role in inhibiting some actions that the Cabal would like to perform, including invasion, etc.
But my point is, that despite having a massive gun culture, the country has STILL been infiltrated, has still be overtaken and sold to the FED for more than 100 years, and the law cited in the post is both out of context and SUCH LAWS also exist in places in the US.
It's a false equivalency to argue that such laws being in place is a direct result of gun control laws. It's based on ignorance about the situation as Australia.
it has no doubt played a role in inhibiting some actions that the Cabal would like to perform, including invasion
There is no reason to invade. The US is completely, 100% theirs already. I mean, maybe it's not now, but up until very recently it was. If you don't believe me, read my report. It shows quite clearly, that there is a single corporation in the world, and a single body of people that run it. Future sections will show that they control everything else as well. All the stuff you think the Cabal failed on is a contrivance, designed for you to believe it. It has nothing to do with the truth, at least according to the evidence.
Ultimately they don't need to invade us, because we are controlled by beliefs, and they control all the beliefs. "Invasion" is physical. This has never been physical. No war is physical. It is always mental. Once the minds of the people are controlled, the war is already over. Everything else, all the "hot" parts of war, are a contrivance, a play.
has still be overtaken and sold to the FED for more than 100 years
The country was never not theirs. It was "overtaken" at inception. The Constitution of the US is full of Cabal fuckery.
It's a false equivalency to argue that such laws being in place is a direct result of gun control laws.
Fair, but that is not the only argumentative flaw. The worst flaws are in the assumptions that are false, that very few realize are false. The most glaring is the assumption that "America is free," regardless of how that is accomplished (gun laws or otherwise). That literally could not be further from the truth. America is full of pure slaves, 100%, that live in the illusion of freedom.
They are free to choose a thousand different paths, but every single one of them is a path of slavery, created by the Cabal. It's like living in a cave world and thinking that because you can go into any room in the cave that you are "free." There is nothing more insidious than such an illusion.
Some would argue that it's not "real" slavery. I suggest it is the worst form of slavery. If you realize you are a slave, at least you know what the path out of slavery looks like, even if it's effectively impossible to achieve. If you don't realize you are a slave, If you don't even know that there is an "outside" to the cave system you believe is the whole world, you don't even know what a path out might look like, or even why it might be desirable to leave the cave system.
I suggest that it can only be truly appreciated how evil this illusion of freedom has been once the outside world has been exposed as "not something to be avoided at all costs" as we currently believe, and the path out has been revealed. I'm pretty sure that is the next veil in this Great Awakening, and it's gonna be a rough ride for many.
Read my replies to other people in this branch. Perhaps that will elucidate my statements better. If you have further objections, or desire further elaboration, please offer some specific protest or query in response.
All I know is that Australia was really good a few years ago, the prime minister said if you come to Australia, then become Australian, don't try to come here and change us, we don't want you if you don't want to be one of us (or something similar, I didn't use quotes because it is not an exact quote). This was a long time ago, it doesn't seem that long ago though, and it changed, quietly and quickly, lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations were the thing in the early 20's (not 1920's but the 2020's). Oh well, I guess it is America's turn to change, but maybe NCSWIC.
The intl Cabal has been working on underming Australia for many, many decades. Yes, we enjoyed a LOT of benefits and there are still many good things about the country. But EVERYWHERE in the English speaking world is under attack now, and gun control is one factor, but not the only one, or even the most important one.
So, is there any further info on this post about the Aussies phone lock thing? I mean the two seem unrelated but the second headline could do with some explaining.
That thing about the phone unlocking is mainly about criminals like outlaw motor cycle gang members, upper level drug dealers, illicit drug manufacturers and other organised criminals.
It really started when Apple refused to assist law enforcement gaining access to phones and other devices belonging to those serious criminals.
If a serious criminal wants to piss the police around, then they can think about their future in the "Grey Bar Hilton"
If it came to the situation of laws like that being used against the general population, there would be serious political and other consequences.
Australia is not disarmed. That's another of Obama's myths to shame American gun owners. We may not have as many as Americans have, but we have more than enough to stop the Government doing something completely stupid, and the Government knows that very well.
They tried it in 2017. It failed to pass in 2018. But I think it was amended last year and has come to law but requires a warrant. Not 100% sure. As much as it seems nice to scream ‘look what these bastards are doing!’ we need to stick with context and above all, TRUTH.
Wait—you mean to tell me that criminals actually follow and adhere to law there in Australia? Amazing!
Actually, I feel badly for you guys down there. I hope that someday, you all will be able to enjoy the shooting sports as much as we do. Some people can’t wrap their head around that, and think “all gun owners and guns are bad!” Same argument could be said for people for drink and drive and kill people. Are the drinks bad? Are the cars bad? No, it’s the stupid fucking idiots that commit crimes who are the bad ones.
History is Absolute. Every single country that has disarmed The Citizen, has automatically enslaved them by taking their rights and or KILLING Millions at Will. THAT IS The ONLY reason for 'gun control', because Not One elected official in any country, state or city is actually Stupid enough to actually believe, that a single Criminal will disarm and NOT commit crimes, because a new magic law says, he can Not commit his usual Murder. History also Proves that The Armed citizen is NOT the reason for crime and Never has been. When They come for your firearms, they are Now criminals. Shoot them.
Australia is a massive dumpster fire. Will never go to that shithole again
I'm pretty sure this is the case in most countries, including the U.S.A. Even if prison is not explicitly written in law, I remember instances where people were left in jail or subject to fines until they coughed up encryption keys. Or at least threatened with the above.
However, how anyone could make the first post with a straight face after COVID is beyond me.
AUS was never armed in the first place, all of you, try and get your heads around this concept.
It is not difficult.
Me and plenty of my family and mates are armed, it's not hard, there's actually a big gun culture in Aus, there's something wrong with you if you don't have guns, where I live anyway.
That bullshit artist, Barack Obama really put legs on that rubbish about Australians being disarmed. Nothing could be further from the truth!
It's not too many hoops to jump through if you don't mind the state being able to come onto your property, without warrant, at any time. It's also not the norm for the bulk of the population.
Also, there is absolutely no provision to own a firearm for self defense, so if that is your reason you have to spin-shite about hunting or sports shooting. There is no concealed carry unless you are headed to the range or on the way to a hunt. Hanging around on the farm with your personal long rifles does not equal a vibrant gun culture.
🪃 FAFO🪃
Please. False logic, and about 8% of the story.
This is NOT a consequence of gun control in Australia.
Gun Control issue is something like issue 27 in a run of 40 issues that cumulatively have led from point A to point Q.
For the record, (because some mod stickied this), it's really disappointing, if not discouraging, when people who know basically ZERO (relatively) about the Australian situation make pronouncements based on their lack of knowledge and weak assumptions, simply because all they can see is "gun laws".
I won't belabor the discussion, because its been discussed numerous times here before, but Ausanons and other anons know how flawed and simplistic this sort of view is.
But allow me to illustrate:
One consequence of America having no guns is the existence of the Federal Reserve which essentially owns America. Oh, wrong. America has guns. So, how did the Federal Reserve come into being then? I don't get it. Surely it could not exist because America has guns!!!!??
Agreed. The gun control argument is flawed with several bad assumptions.
Welcome to the land of the "free," and the home of the idiots who think that bravery and a deer rifle will save them from guided Jericho missiles, tanks that can withstand a nuclear strike, tactical nukes, or maybe even Rods from God, or Lasers from Space.
Stand off against a B2 Bomber with your thirty ought six. See how that works out for ya.
This is why Q asks:
The military is the only way to win a war against an entity so deeply entrenched.
Bro, hunting rifles? It’s s that what you think?
It was a metaphor. No matter how many submachine guns you or your neighbor may have, if the military comes down on We The People with the full intent to win, the people will be like ants biting an elephant. And I don't mean fire ants, I mean the little black ones you can barely see. The actual hardware discrepancy is far beyond what most people realize or think about.
Well, then, I guess we should all just give up, right?
Is that what I said?
The first part of winning any war is understanding the reality of the situation. Read Sun Tzu. It will tell you everything you need to know. If you go in with a false belief of the situation, you are guaranteed to lose. That is, I suggest, why we believe in this particular Illusion. It guarantees our loss.
We are guaranteed to lose a hot war. We can however win an information war if the information channels are opened and not themselves controlled. That is exactly what the Q team said they have done; open the communication channels. The real battle is in the minds of men. The real weapon is information. If you understand that, and you work to destroy the illusion (all of the illusions), then you can win the war.
Give up? Hell no, just fight the right battle, and show everyone else what that right battle is, and how to win it.
maybe so but why do you think the military had such a problem in Viet Nam? beyond the political BS...the military was not trained in urban guerilla warfare thats why...take out a few and viola you have many of the same weapons they have...if it came to a throw down it wouldnt be as easy to thwart the people as you think it might be...a hunting rifle lol...yes it can take down a plane if you know where to hit it...drop a cocktail down the hatch of a tank and see what happens.....desperate times would call for desperate measures....so dont be so sure it would be a cake walk for them...there are many patriots with many skills that could do a shitload of damage to a woke military.........just sayin
Wars are not fought to be won. We were never intended to win Viet Nam or any other war. Wars are fought to create chaos, fear, death, sow discord, make people believe in certain things. War is nothing but a propaganda piece, a play, with some depopulation and eugenics thrown in as a bonus. They are designed to create the illusion of conflict, or in some cases, those that have any "reality" at all, to install central banks and ensure that a country signs the United Nations treaty, regardless of the victor (which is exactly what happened in Viet Nam when we "lost").
The entire Cold War was one of the greatest scams ever created. The USSR (like the US) was created by Rockefeller and Rothschild, and controlled by them the entire time. It was a boogieman, created by them specifically to set up the wars, to ensure the subjugation of other countries. It didn't matter who won, the Cabal won. Every single war, like Viet Nam, that was done under the auspices of "stopping Communism" was theatre, designed for the purposes I stated. It was never intended to be "won."
There has not been a single war in at least 250 years that was not funded and armed, both sides, by the Cabal. Anything you think you know about any war that does not take that into account is based on false premises.
Can you take down a B2 bomber flying at 50,000 feet dropping WMDs? And that's just the 30 year old tech we know about. No, there is NO CHANCE, our weapons v. theirs. We are as cave men to the real might of our military. People see the ineffectiveness of our wars and think that has anything to do with the reality.
As I said, wars are intentionally not won, every single one. Just because the prize fighter keeps throwing the fight doesn't mean he doesn't carry a can of Whoop Ass in his pocket if he really needs it.
if they go that route we are all fuked anyway and they will have nothing left to rule over so it doesnt matter....
They have stated, numerous times, that they want to reduce the population to less than a billion. I doubt they would drop nukes, but there are plenty of weapons they can use that don't destroy the planet. In general though, I agree. "If" they go that route we are fucked, which was exactly my point: they can go that route. That assumes that the military would be compliant, but in general people don't think they can. Thinking that they wouldn't is possibly true (the military is our family and neighbors and/or us), but thinking that they can't is an illusion.
My point was we live under an illusion of our prowess when compared to the military. The movie we call "Viet Nam", as your protest itself shows, was designed to create that illusion. It is repeated constantly, in certain circles, with propaganda and memes, to enforce that illusion in the belief systems of the would be "freedom fighters." It is just another form of controlled opposition, controlling those who would fight the system, giving a false hope, perpetuating The Matrix.
The Matrix controls all beliefs, not just "The Left," or "The Right," but the anarchists, the truthers, all the various religions, etc. It's a hard pill to swallow, but what you find when you investigate the control systems (and usually the origins themselves) of every group is the exact same source.
If people stake their real fortunes together they can afford more than what the governments fake money could buy, if the people stop giving up their blood willingly to those vampires. All of a sudden they can't print or borrow anything. That's why they are so desperate to fragment society in as many factions as possible.
The machine would absolutely lose a direct battle with the people. If not they already would have started the war.
Well, no, I think there is much more to it than that. The potential for civil resistance and urban guerrilla warfare is very high in the USA, which is a very good thing, imo. And, to some extent, it has no doubt played a role in inhibiting some actions that the Cabal would like to perform, including invasion, etc.
But my point is, that despite having a massive gun culture, the country has STILL been infiltrated, has still be overtaken and sold to the FED for more than 100 years, and the law cited in the post is both out of context and SUCH LAWS also exist in places in the US.
It's a false equivalency to argue that such laws being in place is a direct result of gun control laws. It's based on ignorance about the situation as Australia.
There is no reason to invade. The US is completely, 100% theirs already. I mean, maybe it's not now, but up until very recently it was. If you don't believe me, read my report. It shows quite clearly, that there is a single corporation in the world, and a single body of people that run it. Future sections will show that they control everything else as well. All the stuff you think the Cabal failed on is a contrivance, designed for you to believe it. It has nothing to do with the truth, at least according to the evidence.
Ultimately they don't need to invade us, because we are controlled by beliefs, and they control all the beliefs. "Invasion" is physical. This has never been physical. No war is physical. It is always mental. Once the minds of the people are controlled, the war is already over. Everything else, all the "hot" parts of war, are a contrivance, a play.
The country was never not theirs. It was "overtaken" at inception. The Constitution of the US is full of Cabal fuckery.
Fair, but that is not the only argumentative flaw. The worst flaws are in the assumptions that are false, that very few realize are false. The most glaring is the assumption that "America is free," regardless of how that is accomplished (gun laws or otherwise). That literally could not be further from the truth. America is full of pure slaves, 100%, that live in the illusion of freedom.
They are free to choose a thousand different paths, but every single one of them is a path of slavery, created by the Cabal. It's like living in a cave world and thinking that because you can go into any room in the cave that you are "free." There is nothing more insidious than such an illusion.
Some would argue that it's not "real" slavery. I suggest it is the worst form of slavery. If you realize you are a slave, at least you know what the path out of slavery looks like, even if it's effectively impossible to achieve. If you don't realize you are a slave, If you don't even know that there is an "outside" to the cave system you believe is the whole world, you don't even know what a path out might look like, or even why it might be desirable to leave the cave system.
I suggest that it can only be truly appreciated how evil this illusion of freedom has been once the outside world has been exposed as "not something to be avoided at all costs" as we currently believe, and the path out has been revealed. I'm pretty sure that is the next veil in this Great Awakening, and it's gonna be a rough ride for many.
Can’t agree with your logic.
Read my replies to other people in this branch. Perhaps that will elucidate my statements better. If you have further objections, or desire further elaboration, please offer some specific protest or query in response.
Well said and it needed to be pointed out.
Unpopular opinion, but valid.
All I know is that Australia was really good a few years ago, the prime minister said if you come to Australia, then become Australian, don't try to come here and change us, we don't want you if you don't want to be one of us (or something similar, I didn't use quotes because it is not an exact quote). This was a long time ago, it doesn't seem that long ago though, and it changed, quietly and quickly, lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations were the thing in the early 20's (not 1920's but the 2020's). Oh well, I guess it is America's turn to change, but maybe NCSWIC.
The intl Cabal has been working on underming Australia for many, many decades. Yes, we enjoyed a LOT of benefits and there are still many good things about the country. But EVERYWHERE in the English speaking world is under attack now, and gun control is one factor, but not the only one, or even the most important one.
Thanks for the update. It does sound a lot like our country now.
So, is there any further info on this post about the Aussies phone lock thing? I mean the two seem unrelated but the second headline could do with some explaining.
That thing about the phone unlocking is mainly about criminals like outlaw motor cycle gang members, upper level drug dealers, illicit drug manufacturers and other organised criminals.
It really started when Apple refused to assist law enforcement gaining access to phones and other devices belonging to those serious criminals.
If a serious criminal wants to piss the police around, then they can think about their future in the "Grey Bar Hilton"
If it came to the situation of laws like that being used against the general population, there would be serious political and other consequences.
Australia is not disarmed. That's another of Obama's myths to shame American gun owners. We may not have as many as Americans have, but we have more than enough to stop the Government doing something completely stupid, and the Government knows that very well.
They tried it in 2017. It failed to pass in 2018. But I think it was amended last year and has come to law but requires a warrant. Not 100% sure. As much as it seems nice to scream ‘look what these bastards are doing!’ we need to stick with context and above all, TRUTH.
I think they send you back if you don't unlock your phone
If the government never gets that tyrannical I would just not have a phone
In Bolshevik Russia, they handed out 10 year sentences to the gulag,
They called them a “tenner”
Australia is a leftist progressive totalitarian dictatorship
Wait—you mean to tell me that criminals actually follow and adhere to law there in Australia? Amazing!
Actually, I feel badly for you guys down there. I hope that someday, you all will be able to enjoy the shooting sports as much as we do. Some people can’t wrap their head around that, and think “all gun owners and guns are bad!” Same argument could be said for people for drink and drive and kill people. Are the drinks bad? Are the cars bad? No, it’s the stupid fucking idiots that commit crimes who are the bad ones.
I remember Australia during covid... freedom everywhere