In recent weeks, I've had two people, that I genuinely like and respect, go off the rails on Trump without considering that I may not feel the same way. This brazen confidence of TDS sufferers drives me nuts more than anything. Both have expressed with high emotion how much they hate him and each would like to see him in jail - or worse. In these cases, I've bitten my tongue and changed the subject because I didn't want to ruin the relationship - but at the same time I silently questioned their individuality and common sense. No human is perfect. DJT, while awesome and a very stable genius, has flaws like everyone else. But to ignore the Cadaver in Chief currently acting as pResident and his horrendous performance the past three years while focusing on hating his unfairly represented poltical opposition is just a sign of how well the propaganda has worked. My fear is that these type of people will never see past the lies they've come to believe as gospel and that 2024's election is going to be the most contentious, yet. What do you think will have to happen for these people to see the light? Destruction of the MSM? WWIII? Biden and his global cohorts arrested for crimes against humanity? All of the above? I think next time anyone expresses hate for Trump, I am just going to ask them why they feel that way. I'm thinking they've been told to hate him for so long, they really won't know how to answer.
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Disappointing isn't it? They seem otherwise normal and then the programming comes out and now you can't ever trust their judgment again...
I've thrown caution to the wind because I was ready to be fired when I refused the jab, so I've tried a few different tacks. If you've got a good poker face, "y'know I've got maga in the family and I was trying to find sources for (whatever nonsense they just spewed), but couldn't. You got some links?" Or, "I have a hard time understanding what the DOJ is even doing about the J6 insurrection, because they're not charging any of those guys with insurrection at all, it's weird. At least they didn't take their guns, that would have been crazy, I mean, they'd probably still be there now, under piles of beer cans, amirite?" Or, "right, we need to make sure he and Russia don't steal another election- we need to get rid of hackable equipment and go back to paper and IDs for transparency! What do you mean no ID? Why on earth not? You don't think certain types of people are too dumb to get IDs, are you? I mean, shoot, we just did all that diversity training, don't be getting us into trouble like that."
I'm not real good at playing dumb, but I can get into aggressively illustrating absurdity enough that they will stay to go with it, until they see where the road leads, lol
This exactly. First it was favorite actors from old TV shows, then singers from favorite groups, then old favorite baseball or football players, and now it is friends, acquaintances, and relatives. I don't watch much TV anymore other than stuff I have on Plex (and OAN), I don't like really any new music anymore, I don't watch baseball or NFL (I do still like College football though), and I no longer associate with a bunch of people ever since the pandemic made so many people transparent.
Once these people say what they really feel it makes it clear to me that I am not their core audience and I simply walk away. I don't need that in my life.
Ditto. Moved out of Chicago because of exactly this. True colors were shown when the wife and I started getting asked to show our “cards” anywhere we went. Never forgetting.
I feel ya fren.
I once approached someone at some leftist rally in Manhattan, and asked them, "Why aren't you doing something about the thousands of humans who are executed in our country without any trial every year?" That got their attention, and then I said, "Yes, abortion results in the execution of thousands of innocent humans in our country every year!" Of course, they then walked away. :)
All good advice. My gut is to ask what did he ever do to you? And see if they can come up with anything that isn't emotion related. I dislike Biden because I see the effects of his decisions on my livelihood, but I don't and wouldn't ever come out and tell them how much I don't like him. I think it is poor etiquette and tacky to do so.
President Trump exposed them as great scammers that is what he did. That is what leads to anger as he shines a mirror back at them.
The day President Trump stepped down the escalator is the day that business as usual in politics died. You can consider that the end of 20th century politics which peaked with the 1990s political correctness or appealing to the "center". Yes people can and are pragmatic but I have never met someone that is on the center on most issues. Frankly you can not be because it implies that you lack conviction to take a position.
Putting the onus on them is how it works. You wait for them to spew their stupidity. Ask innocently “What do you mean by that? Can you show me this?” This works wonders because as soon as they’re put on the spot their programming tells them they should be able to Google and present a mountain of evidence. When they look, they find none and it causes a melt down. They’ll find hit pieces but you ask for official court documents, charging accusations from a legal establishment etc. Do this every single time and they’ll eventually stop saying it around you or they’ll end up going off on you for questioning them =]
In years past, two shitlibs at separate times told me that Pizzagate was "fake news." I asked each in turn, "Then tell me, would I do better playing dominoes on cheese or pasta?" They had no idea what I was talking about, I pointed this out to them, and told them that they have no idea what Pizzagate is about, and are only reciting media talking points.
Ha! I will do this -- although, I'm pretty sure that the one would bring up the "Grab her by the P" comment (that I found to be hilarious and I'm a woman).
I’ve had this exact situation pop up. Reference points. He was in a consensual sexual relationship. While I was talking to this older woman I looked her in the eyes and said “Let’s be real, you’re attractive for your age, but back in your 20’s you were more than likely quite the foxy catch. If someone had recorded the things you said in your bedroom and they were aired to the public how well do you think that would be received?” She didn’t have much to say. He’s a billionaire, it was lockerroom talk, guys AND women say MUCH worse.
My sil pointed to the grabbem by the * comment as evidence of how bad Trump is.
I told her an adult male being attracted to and dabling with willing adult females is better than a demented pedophiles groping little girl's breast buds right in public where we all see it.
We are no longer friends.