That just seems outrageous to me. As many true crime stories I've watched on TV, suspects are often pinpointed from cell phone data. And yet people can call SWAT and there's no record of the phone calls?
There are some protections you can use to keep your identity secret, but most of them end up just relying on not being worth the time and effort to them.
You can get a VPN in a country that doesn't have any notable handshake with the U.S. government, for example, but a lot of shitty VPNs will retain logs even if they say they won't.
Anything that pings off of a cell tower should be locatable to at least some margin as well. I notice my cell phone logins often say my accurate location, even without location tracking on, whereas on a desktop it can assume I am +/-30 miles away.
TL;DR: There is no way most of these SWATers that never get caught are all taking every single possible precaution, there should be more SWATers found before they do it a second time.
Yes they can find the phone (unsure if they can trace a throw away phone though), if the police can't there are other agencies that can help them, like the US Marshals for one and any other agency that has the equipment to and/or can get some info from the phone companies.
Beyond that, they can triangulate using both WiFi and cellular towers.
Removal of battery would in theory prevent this, except AFAIK (very exhausted right now so grain of salt without more extensive research) even cheap phones have ways to track location data from a secondary low power source.
Have you ever turned your phone off, talked about something and later that day you got served ads relevant to a conversation you had while your phone was off?
I really don't agree with this idea that because the doors to the Capitol were open meant that everyone was welcome to go inside.
I'm not going to insult the intelligence of those at the Capitol that day to pretend they didn't know they weren't supposed to be inside that building.
There are plenty of valid arguments to make about J6 without using the "but the doors were open!" argument. That's something children would say.
I was 50 ft from Capitol steps near inauguration media tower for 4-6 hours. I never had a clue people went inside. I never saw 1 act of cop/protestor violence.
The Capitol is never opened to the general public when a session is taking place.
Anyone visiting also must have a clearance and are restricted in where they can go.
Dude, that's just sad, trying to pretend anyone can just go and do whatever they want in the US Capitol Building, especially when such an important event was taking place.
Can't find swatters either
That just seems outrageous to me. As many true crime stories I've watched on TV, suspects are often pinpointed from cell phone data. And yet people can call SWAT and there's no record of the phone calls?
if 4chan can find a random flag in the middle of nowhere, they can find pipe bombers etc
Right? I think the new cast of Fish Tank was in the house all of one day before half chan figured out all their secrets.
There are some protections you can use to keep your identity secret, but most of them end up just relying on not being worth the time and effort to them.
You can get a VPN in a country that doesn't have any notable handshake with the U.S. government, for example, but a lot of shitty VPNs will retain logs even if they say they won't.
Anything that pings off of a cell tower should be locatable to at least some margin as well. I notice my cell phone logins often say my accurate location, even without location tracking on, whereas on a desktop it can assume I am +/-30 miles away.
TL;DR: There is no way most of these SWATers that never get caught are all taking every single possible precaution, there should be more SWATers found before they do it a second time.
They're likely in on it, if not "it" itself.
Weird how that works, huh?
Right? So the police do not have a way to find out who the caller is?
Yes they can find the phone (unsure if they can trace a throw away phone though), if the police can't there are other agencies that can help them, like the US Marshals for one and any other agency that has the equipment to and/or can get some info from the phone companies.
Thanks. That's what I thought.
I am fairly certain today's burners at a minimum are traceable. Take the Nokia 2760 for example: a cheap prepayable phone ($20), and it has an SoC that has GPS (https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_us/nokia-2760-flip/specs?sku=GPNKN139DCGBB).
Beyond that, they can triangulate using both WiFi and cellular towers.
Removal of battery would in theory prevent this, except AFAIK (very exhausted right now so grain of salt without more extensive research) even cheap phones have ways to track location data from a secondary low power source.
Have you ever turned your phone off, talked about something and later that day you got served ads relevant to a conversation you had while your phone was off?
Only pays off w maga memaws walking thru opendoors
https://truthsocial.com/@DC_Draino/111658746499864235
This alone tells you how many people are brain dead!
Let’s use it to track all the fucking feds phones that were present on 1/6
Well Said!! But How Dare you use simple logic? You are making the left even more insane.
I listen to Kate Dalley and she said long ago to never take your phone to a protest
EXACTLY!
Irony.
I really don't agree with this idea that because the doors to the Capitol were open meant that everyone was welcome to go inside.
I'm not going to insult the intelligence of those at the Capitol that day to pretend they didn't know they weren't supposed to be inside that building.
There are plenty of valid arguments to make about J6 without using the "but the doors were open!" argument. That's something children would say.
I was 50 ft from Capitol steps near inauguration media tower for 4-6 hours. I never had a clue people went inside. I never saw 1 act of cop/protestor violence.
Ok...
The capitol was only “closed” due to COVID at the time. At any other point, people would be allowed in there.
The Capitol is never opened to the general public when a session is taking place.
Anyone visiting also must have a clearance and are restricted in where they can go.
Dude, that's just sad, trying to pretend anyone can just go and do whatever they want in the US Capitol Building, especially when such an important event was taking place.