h/t Just Human for sparking this.
Russia Russia Russia?
So let me get this straight. Hillary Clinton accused Trump of the exact collusion and crimes the Biden family was committing?
How much do you want to bet that:
The entire Russian collusion operation was originally DESIGNED for Biden, was SHOWN to him (or told to him) in order to discourage him from running against Hillary in the 2016 Democrat Primary? Why would Biden not run in 2016, being the arrogant, 50+ year career politician that he is? Why would he wait until 2020 to run? And why would Hillary NOT run in 2020? (this one is still a bit puzzling to me)
Anyways...
After TRUMP won 2016 she scrambled to re-assign the Russia collusion op onto Trump. It would just be a matter of removing Biden's name and filling in Trump's. Him, his kids, his businesses, the whole thing describes BIDEN perfectly. It fits like a glove! No way Hillary would just magically make up a smear campaign which JUST SO HAPPENS to describe Biden's corruption so perfectly and then accuse Trump of it. She would have made up something, but not this. This is too accurate, only the target is wrong. And it's COMPLETELY wrong. But insert Biden and suddenly it's completely RIGHT. Go figure!
(have not advanced the theory beyond this point...feel free to add!)
What was the "catalyst" used to initiate the collusion op against Trump? The DNC email "hack" & the fact that Hillary "the anointed, 99% chance of victory" candidate lost the election LMAO. If Seth Rich never got that data to Julian Assange I'm sure she would have made up some other bullshit smear op, but God works in mysterious ways I suppose.
Pee Tape of Biden confirmed
Inappropriate showering with daughter, check
LOL
Very plausible. Request for sticky sent.
Excellent theory, fits a lot of facts, matches up with the personalities and timing. Edit: I'm adopting it too and cannot imagine something better coming along.
Brilliant!
I am guessing Hillary could not run in 2020 due to President Trump's executive orders having a crippling effect on the Clinton Foundation.
I agree that they cut and pasted Trump into Biden's corruption narrative, but I think Biden may have volunteered this idea, rather than being the original target. It would protect Biden in the future. Trump would then accuse Biden of the same things Trump had already been accused of for years. This made the accusations against Biden carry less weight for most of the public not paying attention. Replacing Biden's name with Trump worked out a little too well for Biden. For that reason, I think it is more likely Biden or Obama volunteered the idea than Biden being the original target. Sprinkle in all the intelligence experts saying the Hunter laptop was Russian disinfo, and this looks like a preplanned orchestrated coverup, just in case Biden became exposed, dating back to 2015.
Maybe, but remember "they never thought she would lose". I doubt they had that much foresight, and also that the Bidens would risk getting so detailed. Seems like something that wicked witch would do though, like rival factions in crime fighting over who gets the pie
I disagree. The Crossfire Hurricane investigation began on July 31, 2016, over three months before Trump was elected. They never thought she would lose, initially. However, the actions of the Obamas, Clintons and the FBI definitely suggest they viewed a Trump victory as a real possibility and real threat at least by July, but more likely long before that. I also think you vastly underestimate the amount of foresight they had at the time. The way everything played out in the following years points to a carefully orchestrated plan for Obama, Clinton, Biden and the FBI to have all their bases covered, given various different scenarios. Sometimes, people here take "These people are stupid" far too literally. It is a taunt. They aren't actually stupid.
edit: Now that I think about it, the texts between Page and Strzok actually prove the deep state viewed Trump winning as a real scenario prior to the election and were creating safeguards should it actually happen. They specifically discuss the possibility in their messages prior to the 2016 election.
Could the pee pee tape be killary's?
Good points, though I still find the specifics in the collusion op far too coincidentally accurate regarding Biden family's actual collusion / crimes in eastern Europe.
You have me re-thinking it though
You could be right about what we disagree about. It's speculation. I completely agree with you though that Trump was copy and pasted into the story of what Biden actually did. It's too exact to just be a coincidence.
I like it. It’ll be impossible to convince normies of this tho. Thank God my mind has always been like Silly Putty, you can stretch it with information like this and I’m game.
Fun idea.
One thing that lends serious probability to this is that the left has consistently accused Trump of everything they are guilty of. Cankles just decided to transfer the threat to Biden over to Trump when Biden stood down.
100% probability all lawfare against Trump would go away if he withdrew from the campaign.
I do not agree. Biden didn't run in 2016 and didn't campaign to run the year prior. This would mean the Russia-gate story was concocted in advance, before 2016.
The Russia-gate theory was thrown together on the fly and less to do with Trump being Hillary's contender and more so to do with Seth Rich leaking the DNC emails.
It began as a cover story for the DNC leak and morphed into an attempt to smear Trump. Just my two cents.
"didn't campaign to run the year prior" <<< theorizing that this was due to being shown the Russian collusion dirt Hillary had on him. She wanted to run unopposed and Biden being Obamas vp would be the only real contender. She already had a plan with the DNC to deal with Bernie. Biden was the only other threat.
And as time went on and the Bidens continued their dirt in Eastern Europe they could just paste those future deeds into the collusion op
"You can continue your dirty deeds over there, IDC, but you WILL NOT RUN AGAINST ME!" - Hillary to Biden
is the theorymabob
Yeah but this leaves the Seth Rich element out of the equation... and the Dimms literally hired Crowd Strike the day after the Podesta "lets make an example out of em" email was written.
Again, I think it was ass coverage for Wikileaks and of course used as a springboard into the whole Ukraine regime change in 2014 and also to use Trump as a scapegoat.
Perhaps both of these could be true:
Russian collusion op was "on hand", at least an earlier draft of it, to use to keep Biden from running against Hillary for the Democrat primary 2016. In warring deepstate factions Team Clinton is probably much better at crafting hit-jobs than Team Biden. Team Biden seems to be in a peon / street worker class, not a boss class. "Don't underestimate Joe Biden's ability to fuck things up" -Barrack Obama
Trump enters the mix, the op is refined and routed at him behind the scenes, then Seth Rich gives them urgent need to supercharge it and deploy
I bet the deepstate does this a lot, they make a template of their own crimes or crimes done by other factions within the deepstate (think warring mafia families) in such a way as to be able to use it against someone who threatens them. "Accuse the enemy of what you are doing" comes to mind.
Also, not quite following on the last part, what do you mean by used as a springboard into the whole Ukraine regime change in 2014?
Cake already baked. RU Gate to be used as MSM talking point for normies to get on board with war drums.
Edit sry for short replies, at work kek!
Ah, gotcha. No worries fren appreciate the drop-in! So they needed a final op to solidify what they started in 2014. Makes sense.
Still think it was an insurance policy against Biden but knowing them they probably have these cards in hand for a variety of potentials. Crafty little buggers
How does “Trump ⚽️ Putin” factor into Russian interference with the election? That needs to reconcile somehow or the theory is invalid… right? 🤔
The soccer ball? 2018 Helsinki? Probably Putin gives Trump data on the deepstate / CIA / somethin that had to be hand delivered. Same with Putin giving Tucker that folder. Is my guess
Oh yeah good call 👍