Proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt
During and after the Q-posting part of the Q operation, the Q proofs were a critical tool for verifying and confirming the veracity of the Q operation and its connections with Q+ in particular. That was a clear and specific purpose. Moreover, the proofs were clear, concise and pretty obvious (imo). They served their purpose at that time by providing evidence for anyone asking: "hey, is this really legit?"
Part of the proofs were deltas - the time or period between point A and point B, such as the delta between a particular Q drop and some other event, such as POTUS making post on Twitter, etc. Especially, zero deltas or 1-minute deltas between A) when Q would post a drop and then B) POTUS would send out a particular tweet - these became important statistical evidence highlighting the legitimacy of Q and the cooperation with Potus.
These became "proofs" because they were evidence that statistically "proved" the validity of Q.
Other proofs became significant because they pointed to correlations that potentially shed light on to what the Q operation was talking about. In those cases, also, the purposes have been clear: to reveal some coherent theory or explanation of what the Plan is and or how it is unfolding. After all, some of the techniques that Q trained anons in were about taking various data points, digging deeper and then putting the pieces of the puzzle together to increase understanding or insight.
The original Q proofs had very clear and effective purposes. They were fact based, evidence based, and the context in which they arose lent confirmation to their validity.
However, today, three and a half years on from when Q halted posting (technically 1.6 years, but the main body of 3+ years of posting finished in Dec 2020), some anons, in developing their ideas about what is happening in the info war and psywar, have resorted to paying a lot of attention to "deltas" and to drawing correlations and even conclusions from those correlations, and then labelling them as proofs.
The question is, do (all) these correlations stack up as proofs? Are they evidence of something and if so, of what?
Does The Proof Go Poof?
Why are these questions important? Why is it important to examine HOW we deal with the information, and to check whether it is fact-based, evidence-based, logic-based, reason-based, emotion-based, belief-based, or bias-based, etc?
Because Q trained anons in a variety of techniques. Those techniques became powerful tools for making our way through the information war landscape, for discerning when narratives and propaganda were at work, for avoiding or mitigating the impacts of that propaganda on ourselves, and for verifying the reality behind the facade of propaganda.
But when we depart from those techniques, it is easy to slip into habits and perspectives that become vulnerable to more subtle attacks of disinformation, misinformation and mal-information. And, there is no question that the Cabal and their instruments would want to attack and undermine the truth movement, and the anons, and all the participants of the Great Awakening, and to hamper as much as possible the QUALITY of the ongoing awakening process.
We see plenty of examples of this in the snake oil (snake venom?) salesmen and clickbait merchants who have latched on to and taken great advantage of the burgeoning audience for new information and truth. People are hungry for truth, but also hungry for hope, for a sense of security, in a world that is increasingly chaotic and confusing, and in a war where even the most seasoned anons can be buffeted by black pills and exhausted by way of attrition.
The only real check we have against THAT form of attack, which seek to exploit potential vulnerabilities that anons, awakened people and searchers may have, is to apply the techniques of critical thinking, self-reflection, bias-checking and solid, hard-nosed evidence based research that Q inspired us to pursue.
"Question everything" is an important guideline in many, many cases, and THAT includes questioning our own attitudes, approaches, methods and thinking. We cannot afford to slip into patterns of believing things because they make us feel good, because they provide some false but comforting sensation ("hopium"), or because they alleviate some sense of anxiety or concern or need for a sense of security in our interpretation of things.
What's the old adage about sacrificing liberty for security? (Thank you Ben Franklin )
We can translate that adage into something about sacrificing tough, critical thinking for comfort (eke mental security).
So, we need to check ourselves.
And this leads to another question: as the movement has developed in the absence of Q posting, have we drifted from our original angle and methods? Are we on course in terms of HOW we practice our craft? Or if we have drifted off course, how?
Some might be inspired to immediately dismiss these questions. "Pooh, pooh!" They will declare. "We are anons! We don't make mistakes? We are invulnerable to the normal human foibles that drag ALL people into comfort zones unless they practice vigilance and harsh self-scrutiny!!! We are all about insight and seeing through the fog!!!! We have no blind spots at all!!!"
Hmmm….
The Proof Of The Pudding
The inspiration for this post is the now current (Sticky at time of drafting) posting that is titled:
6 YEAR Q PROOF. To the exact day. Do you believe in coincidences?
I could point out how the Subject Title is merely a COPY/PASTE of the tweet that the OP is inspired to share with the board, and that there is sadly no level of analysis, or even hint of WHO stated this. That last part if unfortunate, in my opinion, because I am FAR more likely to give some credence to a post by a GAW member who has drawn their own conclusions than to some anon on the X who is NOT on GAW. Essentially, the OP merely offers the X post as its own headline. But let's put that aside.
Here's the post: https://greatawakening.win/p/17siXJK6yd/6-year-q-proof-to-the-exact-day-/c/
And here is the Tweet that the post is reproducing: https://twitter.com/EDranir/status/1775591029766262886
For me, however, the first question that arises is:
if this is a "Q proof" what is the purpose of the proof? What does it reveal?
Is it simply a proof that "the Pan is still operational and things are going our way"? Is it a proof that "Q definitely has Operation Looking Glass and the Q drops are predictions and records of future events that Q knew WOULD happen 5 years, 6 years earlier?" Or what? What is it a proof of? "That there are no coincidences?"
What is the practical EFFECT of this so-called proof?
Anyway, let's turn the soil on the X post and see what comes up.
6 YEAR PROOF. To the exact day. With a date mirror. How? Do you believe in coincidences?
H/T @ELMAGAIN for finding this first.
The 'proof' draws these correlations:
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7.4 magnitude earthquake <> Q Drop 1067 date of April 7, 2018 (7.4, 4.7)
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Date of X post by Insider Paper April 2, 2024 <> A day of the week referenced in Q drop 1120 - Tuesday and Q drop 1067 Tuesday (April 2, 2024 = Tuesday, Q drops both reference "Tuesday")
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Name of road on street sign "Chongqing Rd" with name in Q drop 1120 and in Q drop 1067 (chongqing, chongqing, chongqing)
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Date of Q drop 995 April 3, 2018 that includes content "Future Proves Past. Several today" + [1 day] * [A]pril. MOAB
The stated conclusion = 6 Year Proof
The Proof Of the Pudding is In The Eating
Personally, I have a few issues with this so-called Proof, none the least being thge question I have: "What does it actually prove?"
Chongqing
Chongqing was a significant data point during the drops drops 1067, 1120, 2516. I recall there being photos of, and allusion to activities of, specific persons in that city at that time. But it is also in other drops: 2517, 2516, posted in November 2018.
Q 1118 references chongqing indirectly, as an anon references the article Q linked in Q 1117, about China embracing foreign cars.
Q 1117 references Q 1116, in which Q writes: "Thank you Xi. Good Start. China/CQ cancel."
In this series of Q drops, Q talks about Chongqing, about cars, about imports, about Xi, and China.
10767, "China Chongqing Tuesday" This post was on Saturday April 7, 2018. The next Tuesday was April 10, when X gave a significant speech
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-04/10/c_137099839.htm
One highlight was increasing imports and lowering tarrifs for vehicles.
Chinese President Xi Jinping said Tuesday China will significantly lower the import tariffs for vehicles and reduce import tariffs for some other products this year.
Does it make sense that the Q drops were about Xi, POTUS's ongoing successful engagements with China, re: changing the trade dynamic (a BIG feature of the Trump administration #1)? Yes. That Xi's speech on April 10 indicated a "start"? Yes.
So what kind of connection might it have with an earthquake in April this year?
The photo presented in the X tweet in the OP is Chongqing rd, in the district of Hualien City in Taiwan.
But the Chingqing referenced in the Q drops appears to be the Chongqing district (Chongqing City) in China (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chongqing).
We can see some correlation between the photo here (on X) and the Q drops 1067 and 1120. That's because it's the same name. But just like in cities and countries all over the world, places in two different nations can share the same name. (Compare "Birmingham" (city) in the UK with "Birmingham Rd" elsewhere).
So is there a real connection here? In both Q1067 and Q 2516, Q specifically references China and the city of Chongqing in China (mainland). Not Taiwan.
Dates
The 'proof' here cites a correlation between the X post by "Insider Paper" (aka date April 2, 2024) and post 1067, but the actual earthquake event happened in Taiwan on April 3. It only appears as April 2 because the person using the X account is on the other side of the date line from Taiwan. The earthquake in question happened on April 3.
https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-earthquake-explainer-hualien-8c3de7d63c964ae460424aa7e52581a2
TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP) — Taiwan was struck Wednesday by its most powerful earthquake in a quarter of a century. At least nine people were killed and hundreds injured, buildings and highways damaged and dozens of workers at quarries stranded.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/apr/3/strongest-earthquake-25-years-kills-nine-injures-o/
Nine people are dead and more than 1,000 reported injured in Taiwan after the island nation was rocked by the strongest earthquake in a quarter-century Wednesday.
For someone using X in a different location, the date is April 3
So the connection between "Tuesday" and the chongqing rd photo aka Hualien City Earthquake, which happened on Wednesday, and posted by Insider Paper, is a false positive.
So, what is the proof?
There is no correlation between April 2 (Tuesday) and the Huelin city earthquake April 3 (Wednesday). (X shows date of viewer, not of actual incident)
There is no correlation between Chongqing in the Q drops and the road in Hualien Taiwan except that they share the same name. There is also a road of that name in Taipei, and possibly elsewhere.
"chongqing is a romanization of the Chinese word 重庆 (Simplified Chinese) aka 重慶 Traditional Chinese meaning literally "Double Celebration".
Is there a correlation between an earthquake of 7.4 on the Richter scale and a q drop posted on April 4, 2018? A numerical correlation, but is it meaningful?
Is there a correlation between Drop 995 with "future proves past, several today" "1 day" and "[A]pril MOAB." and the city and country of Hualien in Eastern Taiwan where the earthquake happened? Actually, both events (the drop and the earthquake) took place on the same day, BUT 995 does not reference Taiwan, Chongqing or China in any way. So is there are connection? If so, is it strong? Weak?
Also, the "proof" references "[1 day]" in Q995, I assume alluding to the 1 day difference between the earthquake in Eastern Taiwan and the drop itself Q995. But that's a false positive, because the earthquake did NOT take place on April 2, but April 3, Taiwan time.
To me, the correlations are tenuous at best. But the real kicker is this: What on earth does this 'proof' prove?
There is PLENTY of context in the Q drops themselves that give the actual drops significance : the relation between CCP China and the US, between POTUS and XI, between the trade imbalance that the globalists had been using to destroy America and which Trump reversed in cooperation with Xi. "Thank you Xi. Good Start".
If this is a Q proof, what does it prove? Does it prove that Q KNEW there would be an earthquake on April 3, 2024? How? The connection between drop 995 and the Hualien earthquake is tenuous at the very best. And the content of the Q drop could reasonably be stretched out to connect with dozens if not hundreds of other events over the years.
Does it prove that Q or Q operatives made the earthquake? In order to prove what? Only to prove the Q operation? Why would an earthquake be triggered in Taiwan? To disrupt the Semi-conductor industry? To spark a CCP Chinese invasion?
It's valid that anons try to draw connections, but those connections need to be tested and then critically reviewed, and pushed and pulled and tested again. They need to have some rational or reasonable purpose. Otherwise, we just become that guy. Drawing connections and getting excited, but less than careful about applying the very skills and techniques that Q trained and inspired us in.
And if we allow ourselves to be moved along by being less than self-critical, we do a disservice to our mission and increase the potential for bad actors to inject disinformation and misinformation into the truth sphere. To me, this is the real threat. We have learned to see through many of the enemy's lies, but have we learned to critique ourselves? For me, that a question.
Just Human talks about this danger in the recent episode of Defected. Worth a listen, for about 10, minutes. The link is time-stamped up, if you are interested.
https://rumble.com/v4ml6ok-defected-ep.-65-900-pm-et-.html?start=6686 (1:51:26)
Of especial note is what he says at 1:55:20.
I think the most overused, the least understood and one of the biggest vulnerabilities enabling the injection of psyop mis-, dis- and mal- information, is the phrase "double meanings exist".
Your critique of this proof is exposing exactly how they use it with the Chongqing reference and connection.
I dont get excited when I see these "proofs". I see them as curiosities only with loose connections and little gravitas.
Add to that "mirrors and disinformation is necessary" and it is all very open to interpretation...
100%.
Amen.
Yeah, current “proofs” seem like they might better be called a nice potential evidence of an action possibly being involved with the operation. May I suggest the term, “Possible Qction?”?
To me, the biggest current signatories of action are 13/17s in significant prominence of different comms, and the biggest proofs were tippytop and Trump tweets with subject matter at linked deltas after q-posts while active.
The point of “proofs” was to prove that Q was legit, not to prove that events are tied to operational execution. What are the thoughts on the suggested term?
As far as “double meanings exist” and “disinformation is necessary”, agreed. They are the “the kingdom of heaven is within” or “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” of Q.
I’m guilty of using, and probably misusing, most of them, but they’re definitely all misused more than properly used.
You are also more likely to find 13s and 17's because you're looking for them (frequency illusion).
And double digits starting with 1's are going to appear way more often than double digits starting with 9's (ballot analysis taught me that).
Those numbers can be interesting. Just know some of the reasons why they seem to appear a lot.
To me, zero delta posts and the chans asking Trump to say "tippy top" are way more powerful as a potential proof.
Yeah, understood, but it’s funny how many news stories run “13 people died during this very unusual fire. Investigators suspect arson, but as of this report, no suspects have been found.”
I only use them as potential markers for actions, the same way people in Illinois might suspect the Wet Bandits if their house floods while they’re away on vacation.
There is also something else at play here (in my opinion). Some folks express it like this: "The matrix is winking at us".
Things that happen which present themselves as significant, which are pointers, 'coincidences' that seem NOT like coincidences.
My own view is that a lot of this is actionized by the living spirit world (i.e. the Holy Spirit and good spirits working together to promote God's agenda on earth).
So, not something that the WH on Earth do necessarily, but evidence that God is alive, that Heaven is working. For example, I put the Matrix film in that category. The impact of the film is enormous, and yet, was it specifically designed to achieve that impact? Did the creators have that intent? Or were they simply an instrument for higher powers?
Another aspect to consider here is the symbolism and religious beliefs of the political Satanists. They infuse symbology with intent, in order to weave spells and cast energetic forces ('magic'), and use that symbology in lots of places, to 'cast spells'.
The point here is not whether the symbols are inherently good or bad (e.g. many of God's creations have a pentagram-like structure), but the fact that the Satanists infuse certain meanings with intent, and that THEY believe in it. So, the skull and crossbones (322), or the inverted pyramid, etc, these things pop up sometimes because the Satanists (and their non-Earthly spiritual forces (satanic spiritual forces) try to weave them in to events and daily consciousness in order to advance their occultist agendas.
The symbolism often include numerical elements (numbers), but not every instances of such symbols are satanically inspired. Thus, discernment needs to be applied when considering and analyzing them.
But it seems clear that Q wanted us to realize and become familiar with the fact that these occultists use these things because they believe they advance their evil agendas, which are ultimately the spiritual desecration of God's world.
Possible Qction
I love this term, and suggest it be made into a flair. it would cover such things as the proposed 'proof' here, but also anything that looks like it might be evidence of the plan unfolding and/or actions by the White Hats that interface with the Q operation and it's core themes.
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