I'm sure someone retrieved all the bullets and has analyzed them by now.
It would be easy to tell if all the bullets were fired from one rifle, or if there were two rifles involved.
100% agree. The spent shell casings on the roof are a no-brainer. They either match up to acoustics of fired rounds or they don't. One shooter or more. They should have said, we will wait while you call the office for an answer.
They might get lucky if they could find them, but most high powered rifle rounds are going to almost disintegrate on impact. Those that penetrated soft tissue without hitting bone might still hold a clue, but you might or might now get a sampling of all guns used.
With rifle ammo the copper outer sheath often separates and explodes on impact to any solid material. That outer copper shell is what holds the imprint of the rifling from the barrel that is used to identify the gun used.
Most of the bullet IDs are done on the slower pistol ammo. The bullet from a pistol is traveling slower and can be found intact with rifling marks still in good condition.
The part of the copper shell that fragments is typically the ogive, or pointy end. The butt end is cylindrical and filled with lead and is the part that retains the rifling pattern. It has a good chance of surviving impact for examination, if it is not deformed.
You are the first person I've encountered that is willing to describe a .223 round as "high-powered."
As usual, the neophytes want to own the language. A .223 would fit the military definition of "medium-energy", along with the Russian "short .30" used in AK-47s. "High-power" begins with something like a .30-'06 and goes up to a rhino-killer like a .416 Rigby. Some military snipers use a .50 BMG round. I don't know what you would call that.
I have a hand-me-down Winchester model 1886 chambered in .45-70 Government. The round is about the size and shape of the huge Crayola crayons we used to have in school, larger than your finger. Everybody moans about the .223 being a deadly cartridge. The .45-70 was used to take down bison and grizzly bears.
I was a member of the International Wound Ballistics Association, so I'm not talking off the top of my head. For bullets recovered from living targets, what I said was correct. I did say the caveat "if it is not deformed" (as by collision with a hard object). When my grandfather and father went hunting, they would often collect intact (though deformed) bullets from the game they took. The "power" of a cartridge-gun combination is mostly an imprecise popular term. It has more to do with total momentum of the round being fired than with velocity.
Yeah, earlier today I saw a 3D recreation of where the shots should have hit, and most would have hit the bleachers or the lift, but they think there might have been one or two that hit dirt. So in that case you're right they should have found those by now and they should have rifling pattern intact.
Second story window behind the roof top. All the angles would be close to the same. It would explain the.03 second time differential in the two shooters.
I have to agree. Today was very strange. Well we all significantly dislike Cheatle, I think that she may be afraid for her life as well. She simply refused to answer any of the questions and slipped up and letting us know that there was more than one shooter and that she was concerned about continuity of government. That means Derek Johnson has been right all along and under executive order, 13848 Trump is now the president and has been the president all along. I think what we had was an optical coup, where removing them from office would not be as simple as it might appear. The perpetrator of the crew had the respect and confidence of the American people who have been led to believe by nefarious organizations like blackrock that they need to believe in the mainstream media. That game has now come to an end.
I'm sure someone retrieved all the bullets and has analyzed them by now.
It would be easy to tell if all the bullets were fired from one rifle, or if there were two rifles involved.
This guy asks a great question about the casings...
https://x.com/TruthingtonPost/status/1815049559455719900
100% agree. The spent shell casings on the roof are a no-brainer. They either match up to acoustics of fired rounds or they don't. One shooter or more. They should have said, we will wait while you call the office for an answer.
Why is this all so reminiscent of JFK’s assassination??!!!
Same playbook, same crooks (pun intended).
3 shooters + 1 to kill Crooks
They might get lucky if they could find them, but most high powered rifle rounds are going to almost disintegrate on impact. Those that penetrated soft tissue without hitting bone might still hold a clue, but you might or might now get a sampling of all guns used.
With rifle ammo the copper outer sheath often separates and explodes on impact to any solid material. That outer copper shell is what holds the imprint of the rifling from the barrel that is used to identify the gun used.
Most of the bullet IDs are done on the slower pistol ammo. The bullet from a pistol is traveling slower and can be found intact with rifling marks still in good condition.
The part of the copper shell that fragments is typically the ogive, or pointy end. The butt end is cylindrical and filled with lead and is the part that retains the rifling pattern. It has a good chance of surviving impact for examination, if it is not deformed.
You are the first person I've encountered that is willing to describe a .223 round as "high-powered."
That physician did, as did the people who didn't like me criticizing the use of those words when referring to an AR-15.
Turns out, people are willing to abandon all the arguments they used to use at a time when convenient and it's vexing.
As usual, the neophytes want to own the language. A .223 would fit the military definition of "medium-energy", along with the Russian "short .30" used in AK-47s. "High-power" begins with something like a .30-'06 and goes up to a rhino-killer like a .416 Rigby. Some military snipers use a .50 BMG round. I don't know what you would call that.
I have a hand-me-down Winchester model 1886 chambered in .45-70 Government. The round is about the size and shape of the huge Crayola crayons we used to have in school, larger than your finger. Everybody moans about the .223 being a deadly cartridge. The .45-70 was used to take down bison and grizzly bears.
It's about speed not power. Catching any rifle round in inspectable condition is very rare. Those little .223s splatter on any sort of metal they hit.
I was a member of the International Wound Ballistics Association, so I'm not talking off the top of my head. For bullets recovered from living targets, what I said was correct. I did say the caveat "if it is not deformed" (as by collision with a hard object). When my grandfather and father went hunting, they would often collect intact (though deformed) bullets from the game they took. The "power" of a cartridge-gun combination is mostly an imprecise popular term. It has more to do with total momentum of the round being fired than with velocity.
Yeah, earlier today I saw a 3D recreation of where the shots should have hit, and most would have hit the bleachers or the lift, but they think there might have been one or two that hit dirt. So in that case you're right they should have found those by now and they should have rifling pattern intact.
Well, they are really fast. I kinda always thought my freedom pew was somewhat high powered, but I've never had anything bigger than 300blk tbh.
Second story window behind the roof top. All the angles would be close to the same. It would explain the.03 second time differential in the two shooters.
How ironic that world class photographers were on hand to capture "a shot" but the main shot they needed to capture missed..
No coincidence in the names of Crooks and Cheatle. God is in the house showing us the dems for what they are!!
I have to agree. Today was very strange. Well we all significantly dislike Cheatle, I think that she may be afraid for her life as well. She simply refused to answer any of the questions and slipped up and letting us know that there was more than one shooter and that she was concerned about continuity of government. That means Derek Johnson has been right all along and under executive order, 13848 Trump is now the president and has been the president all along. I think what we had was an optical coup, where removing them from office would not be as simple as it might appear. The perpetrator of the crew had the respect and confidence of the American people who have been led to believe by nefarious organizations like blackrock that they need to believe in the mainstream media. That game has now come to an end.
Feel sorry for to be in a den of deadly snakes and she well be bitten
No shit..
Who was that texan fgt senator that blocked mayorkas impeachment?
Gosh; I have hope, but nothing surprises me anymore related to politics.
Shes my favorite new congressional member
Don't be silly Anna, they want you in the dark too.