It goes much further than this. Her mother was intentionally trying to subvert U.S. law by various means to get Kamala "legal": https://kamalakancel.com/
I was watching some legal stuff on a similar but slightly different thing.
The point was made that the 14th Amendment says "All person born or naturalized in the United States AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
What -- EXACTLY -- does "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" mean?
Turns out, it means absolute, and 100% subject, with NO OTHER AUTHORITY.
If an American visits France, is the American subject to the jurisdiction of the US and also of France?
Yes.
This means that the anchor baby stuff is a violation of the Constitution.
Those people are NOT US citizens just becuase they were born within the 50 states.
Their parents are citizens of another country, which means the parents and the child, both, are NOT subject to the EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction of the US.
So, anchor baby "policy" (it is not a law) must go.
Obviously if Kackle Heels Up is not even a US citizen, she cannot be a Natural Born Citizen, either, and is therefore ineligible for Prez or V-Prez.
I think they're doing this so that HILLARY hammers her for being ineligible. That way Trump isn't the bad guy and everyone already knows Hilldawg is a c*nt. Then the Supreme Court declares her ineligible and Trump/Clinton is the main event!
OPs asssertions are assertions and are not held up by law or precedent.
The constitution itself does not define natural born citizen.
The accepted standard (by the supreme court, etc) for a "natural born citizen" is someone born in the USA (regardless of the citizenship of the parents) and who does NOT need to go through a naturalization proceeding.
A natural born citizen refers to someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth, and did not need to go through a naturalization proceeding later in life. Under the 14th Amendment's Naturalization Clause and the Supreme Court case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 US. 649, anyone born on U.S. soil and subject to its jurisdiction is a natural born citizen, regardless of parental citizenship.
Also, her Jamaican citizenship is not an issue, from a legal standpoint.
The Supreme Court of the United States has stated that dual nationality is “a status long recognized in the law” and that “a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both. The mere fact that he [sic] asserts the rights of one citizenship does not without more mean that he renounces the other” (see Kawakita v. U.S., 343 U.S. 717 [1952] ).
It may be a bad law, but its the law.
I can see how BADLY OP wants to be right about this, but its a dead issue. OP's opinion is not equal to the law.
The Supreme Court decision that is always refenced doesn't actually address this question. That decision answers whether a child born to two US citizens overseas is considered "natural born", they are. The question of whether someone born on US soil to foreign parents is "natural born" for purposes of holding office has to my knowledge never been directly addressed.
I think the way this goes is that Hillary goes after Kamala on eligibility and the Supreme Court finally addresses this EXACT specific question and finds Kamala ineligible. I think that the fight itself is dirty, nasty, offensive and Trump never has to tarnish himself by being involved. Once the Supremes rule in our favor (we've been winning basically every decision) there is a hilarious Trump/Hillary rematch and dems are even more disgusted with Hillary as their candidate than they are now with Kamala which further depresses dem turnout.
The concepts of natural-born citizenship and birthright citizenship are often used interchangeably, but they have distinct meanings in the context of United States citizenship.
Birthright citizenship refers to the automatic acquisition of citizenship by birth within a country's territory, regardless of parentage. [1] This is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, which states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." [2]
Natural-born citizenship, on the other hand, is a specific type of citizenship acquired by birth, where the individual is a citizen from birth due to being born in the United States or being born abroad to parents who are United States citizens at the time of birth. [3] This implies a stronger connection to the United States, as the individual is born to citizen parents or on US soil.
The key distinction between the two lies in the parentage requirement. While all individuals born in the United States are birthright citizens, not all birthright citizens are natural-born citizens. [4] For example, a child born in the United States to non-citizen parents is a birthright citizen but not a natural-born citizen.
This distinction is significant in the context of eligibility for the presidency, as natural-born citizenship is a requirement for holding that office. [5] The Supreme Court has not explicitly defined natural-born citizenship, but it has established that birthright citizenship is not the same as natural-born citizenship. [6]
References:
[1] United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
[2] 14th Amendment, US Constitution
[3] Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
[4] Congressional Research Service, "Qualifications for President and the 'Natural Born' Citizenship Clause" (2011)
[5] Article II, Section 1, US Constitution
[6] United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
14th Amendment may convey birth place citizenship but not natural born. Minor vs Happersett 1875 SC decision defines natural born citizen as born of two US citizen parents.
It seems like Q/WH/Trump have known all along what's to come. "Future proves past" was how Q put it. None of us know if that's due to Project Looking Glass or something else.
With that being said, Trump's hats say 45-47, and if Harris would be President, to finish this term if Biden dies, or is removed, then that would make her 47... So based on that admittedly sketchy reasoning, I can't see her becoming 47.
So continuing on that line of thought, either Biden stays in office until 47 is inaugurated in January, or something happens where Trump is reinstated to finish Joe's term.
Or maybe I'm tired and need to stop overthinking and get some sleep, lol.
Deporting 20-30m illegals isn't the same as taking away citizenship (which is a whole process) AND deporting 100m people who were born here or got their citizenship through someone like that and did the process legally.
Also, Trump can't just do that. He couldn't get 18b for a wall, you think they're just going to let him deport 20% of the country? Not to mention at least half, if not more, of the military themselves are anchor babies/immigrants/illegals seeking citizenship and the ones in charge of them are proven faggots/retards/both.
So again, logistically, doubt it'll happen.
Hope it does, but don't hold your breath. Sounds like a nice promise, but just seems too farfetched to actually happen.
Edit: not to mention, he's also trying to give all students permanent residence upon graduation. So kinda contradictory of himself in that regard.
A lot of them don't qualify because they're just marrying citizens instead.
And it kind of is what we're talking about. If I'm an anchor baby, I am a citizen. Maria comes in from Mexico on a fake asylum claim. While Maria's asylum application is pending, I marry her and get her permanent residence. Three years later, she becomes a citizen.
Did Maria do it legally?
Am I a citizen as an anchor baby?
If no, then Maria isn't either.
We have a baby during her LPR status, is the baby natural born if she's not a citizen yet and I'm an anchor baby?
The only way Kamala isn't eligible is if her parents were here as ambassadors to Jamaica. I've heard that's the case, but have yet to see evidence.
Until there's evidence, she's a natural born citizen and is eligible for POTUS.
Immigration law isn't as easy as "kick them all out". There's so many layers to it.
The US immigration service are very wise to fake marriages. Seen it myself close up they will investigate fully. Not that it needs genius-level skillz to spot a fake marriage.
If you read the Supreme Court’s Wong Kim Ark decision, as long as her parents were NOT working for the government of China----Kamala's parents were not working for a government----she is a US citizen with all the rights! It is right there. This plan of action is not going to work even though I wish it would!
It goes much further than this. Her mother was intentionally trying to subvert U.S. law by various means to get Kamala "legal": https://kamalakancel.com/
Noice!!!
Good thing they're following the law, just like bathhouse renegade...
Anchor Baby bullshit is fucking pathetic. Our country was ruined by these trash people dumping off their human garbage on our lands.
Don't encourage that
Weird, seems to me like most of the people ruining the country have been here for generations.
Like 99% of US politicians for the past 50 years have all been here forever.
And it's those same people that gave amnesty several times.
Exactly. We all know what happens when you point fingers
I was watching some legal stuff on a similar but slightly different thing.
The point was made that the 14th Amendment says "All person born or naturalized in the United States AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
What -- EXACTLY -- does "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" mean?
Turns out, it means absolute, and 100% subject, with NO OTHER AUTHORITY.
If an American visits France, is the American subject to the jurisdiction of the US and also of France?
Yes.
This means that the anchor baby stuff is a violation of the Constitution.
Those people are NOT US citizens just becuase they were born within the 50 states.
Their parents are citizens of another country, which means the parents and the child, both, are NOT subject to the EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction of the US.
So, anchor baby "policy" (it is not a law) must go.
Obviously if Kackle Heels Up is not even a US citizen, she cannot be a Natural Born Citizen, either, and is therefore ineligible for Prez or V-Prez.
One of the reasons I voted for PDJT was he asked about birthright citizenship and if it was constitutional.... the left lost their minds.
Immigration fraud is rampant in our government- and people holding citizenship in multiple countries.
PS Bibi is here, why at this moment?
So how come there hasn't been a challenge to her being VP then? I would have thought the question at least would have been raised.
Jamaican. Let her run and Trump wins by default? I don’t think that is the script though.
I would like to see a complete pajeet purge, worldwide.
Let them return to their super power country and clean up the shit.
I think they're doing this so that HILLARY hammers her for being ineligible. That way Trump isn't the bad guy and everyone already knows Hilldawg is a c*nt. Then the Supreme Court declares her ineligible and Trump/Clinton is the main event!
I also think that Biden/Harris ticket was intended for certain purposes from the very start. Placeholders
OPs asssertions are assertions and are not held up by law or precedent.
The constitution itself does not define natural born citizen.
The accepted standard (by the supreme court, etc) for a "natural born citizen" is someone born in the USA (regardless of the citizenship of the parents) and who does NOT need to go through a naturalization proceeding.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen
Also, her Jamaican citizenship is not an issue, from a legal standpoint.
https://jp.usembassy.gov/services/dual-nationality/
It may be a bad law, but its the law.
I can see how BADLY OP wants to be right about this, but its a dead issue. OP's opinion is not equal to the law.
anything can be tried or done UNLESS someone puts a stop to it.....where are the pub congresscritters?...the media?....
but otherwise, she's probably just a place holder..
Breaking the law is her thing along with v every other demonrat.
She will be replaced
Why on earth? She's a horrible candidate. I think the DS are praying she will be replaced.
WOW... So dose that include being Biden's VP?
This is something we had to spread for and white… if the Normies don’t like it too bad.
The Supreme Court decision that is always refenced doesn't actually address this question. That decision answers whether a child born to two US citizens overseas is considered "natural born", they are. The question of whether someone born on US soil to foreign parents is "natural born" for purposes of holding office has to my knowledge never been directly addressed.
I think the way this goes is that Hillary goes after Kamala on eligibility and the Supreme Court finally addresses this EXACT specific question and finds Kamala ineligible. I think that the fight itself is dirty, nasty, offensive and Trump never has to tarnish himself by being involved. Once the Supremes rule in our favor (we've been winning basically every decision) there is a hilarious Trump/Hillary rematch and dems are even more disgusted with Hillary as their candidate than they are now with Kamala which further depresses dem turnout.
BOOM
The concepts of natural-born citizenship and birthright citizenship are often used interchangeably, but they have distinct meanings in the context of United States citizenship.
Birthright citizenship refers to the automatic acquisition of citizenship by birth within a country's territory, regardless of parentage. [1] This is guaranteed by the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution, which states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." [2]
Natural-born citizenship, on the other hand, is a specific type of citizenship acquired by birth, where the individual is a citizen from birth due to being born in the United States or being born abroad to parents who are United States citizens at the time of birth. [3] This implies a stronger connection to the United States, as the individual is born to citizen parents or on US soil.
The key distinction between the two lies in the parentage requirement. While all individuals born in the United States are birthright citizens, not all birthright citizens are natural-born citizens. [4] For example, a child born in the United States to non-citizen parents is a birthright citizen but not a natural-born citizen.
This distinction is significant in the context of eligibility for the presidency, as natural-born citizenship is a requirement for holding that office. [5] The Supreme Court has not explicitly defined natural-born citizenship, but it has established that birthright citizenship is not the same as natural-born citizenship. [6]
References:
[1] United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
[2] 14th Amendment, US Constitution
[3] Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)
[4] Congressional Research Service, "Qualifications for President and the 'Natural Born' Citizenship Clause" (2011)
[5] Article II, Section 1, US Constitution
[6] United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
14th Amendment may convey birth place citizenship but not natural born. Minor vs Happersett 1875 SC decision defines natural born citizen as born of two US citizen parents.
Wasn't she born in Oakland?
They are so cornered... scenario... piglosi gone.... 3rd in line Mike Johnson for President. All criminal demonrats rounded up very quickly.
It seems like Q/WH/Trump have known all along what's to come. "Future proves past" was how Q put it. None of us know if that's due to Project Looking Glass or something else.
With that being said, Trump's hats say 45-47, and if Harris would be President, to finish this term if Biden dies, or is removed, then that would make her 47... So based on that admittedly sketchy reasoning, I can't see her becoming 47.
So continuing on that line of thought, either Biden stays in office until 47 is inaugurated in January, or something happens where Trump is reinstated to finish Joe's term.
Or maybe I'm tired and need to stop overthinking and get some sleep, lol.
I think Trump gets installed as President on Nov 6. He always eludes to being back in office sooner than Jan 20, 2025.
Jamaican law has nothing to do with US law.
She was born within the jurisdiction of the US, therefore is a natural born citizen until SCOTUS says otherwise.
Considering who's on the bench, doubt that's gonna happen.
Not...
Ya got me
My experience in immigration law certainly means nothing cause you said "not"
SCOTUS wouldn't take up last election steal
They're definitely not touching this one.
I'm all for it, but the logistics of taking away citizenship from likely close to 100m people isn't gonna fly lol.
Not only that, but it would almost certainly lead to SCOTUS being packed before election if that were to be ruled on.
Deporting 20-30m illegals isn't the same as taking away citizenship (which is a whole process) AND deporting 100m people who were born here or got their citizenship through someone like that and did the process legally.
Also, Trump can't just do that. He couldn't get 18b for a wall, you think they're just going to let him deport 20% of the country? Not to mention at least half, if not more, of the military themselves are anchor babies/immigrants/illegals seeking citizenship and the ones in charge of them are proven faggots/retards/both.
So again, logistically, doubt it'll happen.
Hope it does, but don't hold your breath. Sounds like a nice promise, but just seems too farfetched to actually happen.
Edit: not to mention, he's also trying to give all students permanent residence upon graduation. So kinda contradictory of himself in that regard.
A lot of them don't qualify because they're just marrying citizens instead.
And it kind of is what we're talking about. If I'm an anchor baby, I am a citizen. Maria comes in from Mexico on a fake asylum claim. While Maria's asylum application is pending, I marry her and get her permanent residence. Three years later, she becomes a citizen.
Did Maria do it legally?
Am I a citizen as an anchor baby?
If no, then Maria isn't either.
We have a baby during her LPR status, is the baby natural born if she's not a citizen yet and I'm an anchor baby?
The only way Kamala isn't eligible is if her parents were here as ambassadors to Jamaica. I've heard that's the case, but have yet to see evidence.
Until there's evidence, she's a natural born citizen and is eligible for POTUS.
Immigration law isn't as easy as "kick them all out". There's so many layers to it.
The US immigration service are very wise to fake marriages. Seen it myself close up they will investigate fully. Not that it needs genius-level skillz to spot a fake marriage.
Amusing you think Democrats care about the Constitution.
If you read the Supreme Court’s Wong Kim Ark decision, as long as her parents were NOT working for the government of China----Kamala's parents were not working for a government----she is a US citizen with all the rights! It is right there. This plan of action is not going to work even though I wish it would!