I know we're pretty focused on the craziness going on in politics right now, and so we have moved on from anything related to illness, but this is the best place I know of to ask anything about ivermectin and people's success with it.
Has anyone here, or anyone you know, used ivermectin for anything relating to thyroid issues? Such as hyperthyroidism, hypothyroidism, thyroid cancer, Hashimoto's, or Grave's disease?
I am currently dealing with subclinical hypothyroidism and want to avoid taking the typical medication prescribed for it because of the side effects. I'm trying to change my diet, removing foods that cause inflammation or an autoimmune response, and add the right vitamins and supplements, however it will take some time to notice much of a difference in symptoms.
Since ivermectin is such a wonder drug for practically everything else, I wanted to see if it has any effect on healing the thyroid. So does anyone have any info on if it could help or not?
Thanks for any advice you can give. God bless!
Go here: https://floridasharkman.org/?s=Thyroid This guy has saved my future life many times over. I’m on month 8 of his protocols. His website is tied in with his TS account…
Came to rec this. Many have asked about thyroid on TS. I believe there was/is discussion of iodine, as well, apart from the core IVM and FBN discussions.
The two most important supplements for thyroid health are D3 and selenium. I've seen this work wonders. Iodine is also beneficial.
+1 for iodine. Most people are deficient. Bonus: iodine will help rid your body of radioactive particles
I'm currently taking both. My D3 was way low early in the year and I've been supplementing for that, and now my numbers are great. I've just started selenium so I've yet to see much improvement, but I'll be getting my blood tested soon to see how things are going so far.
Iodine is obviously necessary for the thyroid, however I started to take some supplements for iodine and my symptoms got way worse, so I had to stop. I've read that taking too much iodine can lead subclinical hypo to full blow hypothyroidism, and honestly it felt like I was going that direction. I think I get enough iodine in my diet anyway, so no need to supplement.
Make sure you're getting K2 as well, which metabolizes D3.
This won't be a quick fix. Expect an improvement in your thyroid in 6-8 months.
K2, like vitamin K?
K2 is superior in bioavailability: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-k1-vs-k2
There’s a receptor for vitamin D in every cell. Your blood test should be at least 100. I take 15k in the summer and 20k per day in the winter. My blood test is 150+. Haven’t had my regular twice strep or colds or allergies since upping my D3 from minimum RDA, about 400 to these levels in 3 quarter 2020.
Easiest and safest way to supplement iodine is to use a 2% tincture of ORANGE iodine (so you can see it) and paint the iodine on your skin. Paint an area about the size of a quarter or maybe slightly larger. If your body absorbs the entire amount in less than 24 hours, you are likely deficient in iodine. Do not use the clear iodine tincture because you won't be able to see it on your skin to tell if it's being absorbed or not.
The nice thing about this method is that it's a cheap way to get a ballpark idea of your iodine levels, and it's also very safe because if your body needs the iodine then it will absorb it through the skin, if your body does not need the iodine, then it will not absorb it. You can't overdose yourself with this method.
YES !
Ooh, this sounds like a good and easy way to test if I'm low on iodine or not. Thanks!
Check out the research from Dr. David Brownstein. Very informative! There is a video of him being interviewed by Dr. Ken Berry that has helped me quite a bit.
I'll check it out, thanks!
Low carb helped me with low thyroid.
I've done low carb/keto too, but I think it ended up putting too much stress on my body, and my thyroid suffered for it. Also too much intermittent fasting. My body just freaked out and now I'm worse off.
Did you cut out gluten, dairy, sugar, eggs, or soy to help with your low thyroid? I've read that those seem to be the main culprits of autoimmune problems.
I take IVM once a month now, started at every two weeks. Been doing it for a year and a half. Haven’t been sick in that amount of time.
I’ve never seen anything directly related between IVM and thyroid health, but I can only imagine it helps even if just a bit. I also take Lugols iodine occasionally sometimes with cofactors (be careful here as they are potent and can cause severe nausea). I also take nascent iodine occasionally.
To be honest, I haven’t noticed any difference while supplementing iodine. But I continue because iodine is so scarce in our food now. I also don’t know if I have any thyroid issues, though I’d venture to guess I’m Hypo.
If you feel like you're experiencing the symptoms of hypo I would suggest to go get your blood tested. Best to rule it out for sure, and letting it go untreated could lead to worse problems, which is probably how I got to where I am.
I did start taking some iodine supplements but suddenly my symptoms got way worse, so I immediately stopped, and now I take a mix of zinc, iron, magnesium, selenium, thiamine, B12, D3, and a few others. I'm feeling marginally better, but I've read that it could take months of supplementation for symptoms to ease up. Still, I'd rather avoid the typical medication prescribed for this because of how harsh the side effects can be for a lot of people.
I'm willing to go buy some ivermectin and try a low dose for a short time just to see if it helps. In any case it may help with the general malaise I've had because my immune system has been pretty weak for almost a year now.
Thanks for the advice!
I have heard that adrenaline lower the body's production of thyroid, since thyroid is for making energy when not in emergency situations. So, avoiding long fasts, having sugar (or fruit/juice/honey) and letting the eyes take in lots of light during the day, might be good low key interventions.
I have heard of people using Methlyene Blue as an alternative to taking thyroid: Methylene Blue (MB) Mimics Thyroid - Boosts T4 , Lowers TSH
Coffee (but should be done with lots of sugar or with a meal/snake, otherwise it will boost adrenaline and work against you): Caffeine Acts Like Supplemental Thyroid - It Suppresses TSH / GH
Consuming saturated fat instead of polyunsaturated fat: Protein and saturated fats beneficial, PUFA detrimental for thyroid
I think my body being over-worked and extremely stressed in the past year has led to adrenal fatigue, which in turn led to my body attacking my thyroid. Added sugars I've noticed make my symptoms worse, but natural sugars like from fruit or honey are okay for me.
I've read that caffeine and alcohol are really bad for your thyroid so I'm avoiding those. I've never had much taste for either so it's not a big sacrifice.
I've never heard of Methlyene Blue being an alternative. I'll look into it, thanks!
That makes sense. I have heard a lot of people saying that being stressed / over-worked (especially when low on glycogen) or consuming too much PUFA are the two ways the thyroid gets suppressed. Which means that most people now are at least a little hypothyroid.
I wonder if information on caffeine being bad for thyroid wasn't because it was taken on an somewhat empty stomach. I have noticed that now that I am careful to always have coffee either with a meal or heavily sweetened, it no longer gives me jitter(which I assume were from adrenaline, which would suppresses thyroid).
I have hypothyroidism and take levothyroxine. 150mcg. Out of the blue just in the last few months, I started having afib after taking the med for 10+ years. My research ran across an article on NIH (I think) about how an over active thyroid can cause this issue. I cut my scrip back to 100mcg and haven’t have a afib attack since.
I also take levothyroxine, and it's made a huge difference for me. My A1C levels were way too high, as was my blood pressure. And no matter how little I ate or how much I exercised, I could never lose weight.
Since starting on levothyroxine, I've dropped almost 30 pounds, my A1C is low-normal and so is my blood pressure. My cardiologist couldn't believe how well I am doing.
The only side effect I've ever had is a bit of dizziness, so I have to carefully choose what time of day I take it. It might not be for everyone, but it's been a lifesaver for me.
Be well my friend.
I also was on 150mcg and ended up with pretty severe heat intolerance. I was unable to sweat. I backed down to 125, and the difference has been extreme. I can sweat it out and exercise or work in heat without issue now.
Also have hypothyroidism and take levothyroxine. Doc started me on lowest dose he could and it worked. I’m still on same low dosage, no side effects thus far.
That was the first medication my doc recommended, but I read up on the side effects and problems many have with it and it kind of freaked me out. Since my hypo is still subclinical (meaning my TSH is below 6) there isn't much evidence that medication can help anyway. My TSH levels have gone up and down for over 14 years, probably my whole life, so I'm hoping with the proper rest, de-stress, supplements, and diet, I can get my levels back to normal.
Life style is the best long term medicine. Exercise good food, not junk.
Try these groups on Telegram. @fenbendazol @alternateMedsMMSCDS
I never did get a Telegram account, but I can make one to check those groups out. Thanks.
There are so many groups on Telgram, a lot of topical groups and so much info that it can get overwhelming, but it is a good place to hear what folk have to say. Lots of testimonies on solutions.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=thyroid+ivermectin&btnG=&oq=thyroid+iverm
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=thyroid+ivermectin
Thanks, I'll take a look.
Do you take idodine? Over 80% of the people in this country are iodine deficient since they removed iodine from bread and substituted the poison bromine.
https://virginiaprimecare.com/blog/bread-slowly-poisoning-you/
No I don't think so. I get plenty of iodine from iodized salt, and when I tried to supplement my body with extra iodine through pills my symptoms got way worse. I later found out that over-supplementing iodine when you have subclinical hypothyroidism can lead to full blown hypothyroidism. Seems weird the body would do that, but that's how it reacts. I feel better now not taking extra iodine and instead giving my body other vitamins it needs, like zinc, iron, selenium, and magnesium.
I’ve been taking levothyroxine for thirty years and I have had no adverse effects from it. There are a few interactions which are easily controlled by taking the levothyroxine a few hours separate from the other drugs.
The few precautions concern improper dosage or misuse which are pretty much on the patient.
If you are TSH deficient, it may take a couple of months to get stabilized but after that, it’s pretty much clear sailing.
I wish I could just go and take it but I've always been susceptible to bad side effects from all kinds of medication, so I want to avoid it if I can. For now I'm trying to change my diet and take the proper vitamins I'm low on. I'll be testing my levels again in a few weeks to see if I'm any better or worse.
Levothyroxine is an exact duplicate of the chemical your body produces naturally. It's not similar, it's not an analog, it is exactly the same.
Get competent medical assistance from a physician specializing in metabolic disorders and stop reading the web for medical advice.
Water has adverse side effects if misused.
Levo is synthetically made, and only supplements your body with T4, not T3 as well (I think it was T4). This is why some people take the natural form of levo which is Armour Thyroid from pig thyroid glands, which has both T4 and T3. Still it has many of the same side effects as levo which is why I'm avoiding both for now. If all else fails I will fall back on taking either one of those.
IDK about Ivermectin but I have read castor oil packs applied nightly help with hypothyroidism. Haven’t tried it myself but have found castor oil packs very useful for other uses, such as sprains and pains.
Interesting. In all my research into my thyroid issues I haven't heard about this one.
Castor Oil Packs
I hear that spider web poultices will draw out bullets...
Yeah the amount of quackery out there is astounding.