Just asking because a relative suggested there are pictures out there of Trump in Freemason robes, and some of his early real estates deals involved the Rothchilds…
Basically…”they’re all the same….Kamala or Trump doesn’t matter….” said the relative.
(Doesn’t fit a Q site, but the smartest people hangout here…)
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No. I know he has made the hand gestures of a mason though.
We have to remember a few things here: people that are worth billions mingle with others that are worth billions.
You're getting the cream of the crap at that point. You are going to be "in" with unscrupulous characters-because that's all that there are at that level. Some are good people, but none are perfect.
/Our founders were Masons, suggesting that it's not so cut and dry evil.
/There's always the possibility that he infiltrated them. We have to remember how America got into the mess it's in now-infiltration not invasion. I believe we've utilized the same tactics -finally- because it's the only way to fight back in a lawless battle. You can't follow the Constitution when one sect doesn't believe it exists.
In the end, you can't fret about your boxing in of predetermined groups, only the actions of the individual.
I've said many times over thew past 12 years that we will be surprised who the good guys are and who the bad guys are; including me. Lots of kayfabe and interlocking allegiances that we will probably never get the inside on.
This is all true. I haven't put a final judgment on anyone as of yet because I know some are playing their given rolls, and damn well too I might add.
I agree with this, and why I've always stuck to the saying trust but verify because we being the outsiders of the plan, we just don't know 100% about every single person involved. I'm not saying Trump is a bad guy by any means, but if we blindly worship him just how the Left does with their people, then who's the better person in all of this? I still think he's Chosen to fight for us, but i'm no prophet either. I like to use the comparison of Elon, because he still seems up in the air with most all anons, even today. We just don't know at this time.
I agree.
Freemasons have been infiltrated just as other religions have been. (Think Torah/Talmud split, or the Shia/hashishin split, or the Wahabi Muslims all by themselves, or even the formation of Mormons vs. Christians - all of these factions were designed to give the base-religion a bad name)
It perhaps has been easier to infiltrate the Freemasons, because they have so many systems in place to keep things secret. But that secrecy was for a reason: IDK, how 'bout Black Friday. (Friday 13th). People wanted, and succeeded, to kill them at the behest of the pope, who wanted their money. It just so happens that Freemasons knew a few things about money and how to manage it - so they became an obvious target.
Freemasons were also great town-planners, architects (Hello Founding Fathers, USA) and International peace-keepers (wit: Palestine, or Syria - after the terrible wars between parties during the Middle-Age Crusades, where the Proto-Freemasons (Templars, St Johns, Hopitalliers etc) were able to negotiate a lasting peace for centuries, until the 20th, when it was decided to launch an imperialist experiment (under the guise of a humane treatment to the 'jewish' problem in Europe)- and as 'a Western foothold in the Arab world'. It's democracy everybody. The will of the people (all dual passport holders, while locals are denied passports - go figure)
Of course Freemasons are now villified for their ancestors' service of stopping the wars in the sand-box for a few centuries - it is they who negotiated Jerusalem to have quarters. Why is it that we always forget the Armenian quarter? Is it a coincidence that there is a huge freemasonic establishment in Armenia? Oh, and that there is unrest in that part of the world, funded by NGOs etc.? That part is complicated by Byzantine Orthodox Christians BTW.
So, All is not as it seems. One will find that most freemasons want peace and prosperity, just as is outlined in the constitution (oh yeah, I wonder why that is). All the villification by Talmud-inspired supposed Christians (Note NOT ALL Christians) is just religious propaganda.
BTW, I consider myself a Christian, INB4 accusations start flying.
Most are outer circle masons who are clueless. Read the books and writings of their revered past leaders and you get a picture of the inside and the compartmentalization that allows this nonsense. My Grandpa got his 33rd degree about a year before he died at the age of 93. His only dealings with them for his last 10 years was selling Shriner tickets and driving families to the Shriner hospital. He truly believed that the tickets funded the hospital. Obviously he didn't or couldn't see to read the fine print. His involvement and my curiosity had me reading their material since my youth. We have a huge collection of books out out by freemason's and their past leaders. Not because I buy into it, but because sometimes you have to buy the sauce that will open a person's eyes. Same reason you spend $2k on a full Talmud in English. You can't just go around saying that those with nose think that toddler diddling and raping young boys is acceptable and normal, you have to show them in their own writings.
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FFS really show the pictures. If their were such pictures they would be all over the news. If you have to keep asking that idiotic question then we are all going to lose because people are so fucking stupid.
Trump recently said "I am an insider. I used to be one of them. That's why they hate me so much."
If you want to slay a giant the best way to do it is with another giant.
If you don't believe that members of the Elite can change sides and oppose the ruling elite you're forgetting a few things:
Christianity
The United States of America
Russia after the fall of Communism
The Council for National Policy
I think you need to break down this question in multiple aspects.
Pictures of him in freemason robes. I am pretty sure that is fake because there were many pictures / videos uncovered by Anons to connect Trump with freemasonry, but I don't remember ever seeing a picture with robes. So the first thing you should do is to ask your relative for that picture.
All the other symbolism connecting Trump to freemasonry has always been mired in "symbolism controversy" (For instance, most celebrities make the rightside up pyramid symbol with their hands, but Trump makes upside down pyramid). Again, I never saw anything that is clear cut, as always with Trump, there is a lot of ambiguity and I think its by design.
Delas with Rothschilds - Trump purchased 95% ownership of a resort chain that turns out to be have been controlled by CIA/Mossad and owned by Rockefellers amongst other folks. So, did he become part of their team? (If so why did they let him take 95% control), or did he wrestle it out of their control to build his casinos? (Is that why his casinos were always targeted by the mainstream?) Again ambiguity.
There was another instance where he used one of the ex Rothschild lawyer to screw the bankers in one of his bankruptcies long ago. If a guy needs to go against the Banksters, he will need someone who knows their tactics. Classic Sun Tsu.
But regardless of all this, it is very obvious that Trump has been aware of the occult and has been able to navigate their world from the beginning. One could argue easily that without this basic ability, no person could be the frontman for an operation such a Q and if the military was grooming someone to take this place, they would definitely be educated in this respect.
The real question is - is he just like any other member from the secret society OR is has he been educated to be able to blend in their world without compromising himself?
For those of us here, the answer is easy. He definitely did not get compromised or else he would have been taken out long ago by the rival factions who have been hell bent on getting him.
The last possibility is that the entire Cabal faction elected him as their new leader, and everything we see over the past 8 years is smoke and mirrors. This is basically what most people who research into this will ask themselves seriously. How can we be sure this is not the case.
I offer 3 answers to this:
They had everything setup for Hillary to finish off the last 8 years of the plan and usher in the Global enslavement. If they chose Trump instead (lets say), all they had to do was finetune the same plan and finish it off. Infact this scenario would have been extremely easy - Trump "exposes" Hillary, Obama, Bush - everyone from all sides of the spectrum and throw them all under the bus. He then gains full support of all people both left & right, with the media portraying him as a underdog hero. Then unleash the Uranium One plan - nuclear material from NK to bomb Seattle, along with pandemic, and under Trump's guidance 90% of the people would have trusted him and happily walked into the gulag themselves.
Even if we assume that for some reason the above plan was not suitable and they wanted a muc more elaborate plan. Trump can expose anything to make this work, but what is the one thing he cannot expose? The key plan that had to remain hidden until the last minute - the Zionism and the Pedo blackmail. Those are the crown jewels. No plan would work by exposing their own plans too early, and thats why we have crossed a point of no return. Even if Trump turns out to be a bad guy, majority of the people will recognise it the moment he takes office and tries to do the subversion of any kind.
And finally, if it so happens that Trump is indeed a bad guy, then there is absolutely no hope for Humanity. Period. There is no "we are gonna fight our way out of this". That means God failed. That to me is enough to know this is not true.
Here he is attending his 33rd degree initiation: https://old.bitchute.com/video/K7QIj6vwSHYe/
On this video he's initiated as a Freemason, but you can hear Newt Gingrich say from 01:20 onwards about Trump "he's uncontrollable, he hasn't been through the initiation rites, he didn't belong to the secret society"
If that was their real reason to oppose Trump, it would imply that Trump is not initiated as a Freemason.
So is Newt Gingrich lying there?
I don't know the dates involved, but the quote from Gingrich could have happened much earlier. Or, perhaps his statement could have been a deflection to protect his masonic brother. Who knows...
The quote from Gingrich seems to be during the run up to the 2016 elections, but the initiation ceremony with Trump seems to be from much earlier, maybe 1980's.
Btw, even if it turns out that Trump is or was a mason, it doesn't mean he's on the side of darkness. See e.g. Qpost #4545 "Children of light vs children of darkness."
So which is it? Being initiated as a freemason is very different from 33rd degree.
I read a long time ago that Trump wanted to see what it was all about and continued upwards, by invite, into the highest levels of Free Masonry, which for the majority of members in most all of the levels (until the very highest) is all about philanthropy, good deeds, helping your community, etc.
Only the top level is where the shenanigans take place and is explained and introduced only for those specifically invited and pre-vetted. I had read back then that Trump got to the very top in order to see the 'hidden goings on' and then declined the 33rd level. He said he 'had to think about it' and then never moved forward.
That was scary! Near the end he says 'We will fight for Israel 100 % - then 1000%. Israel will be there forever.
I really hope not!
Then there is a chance he told them no. They all hate him now. If he was a member that told them no how do you think they would react? Try to put him in jail! Take away his businesses impeach him shoot him?
Sure looks from that video someone posted in this thread that he at least used to be. Don’t pretend to know his true allegiances and his true intentions but as long as he’s saying and doing what I agree with I can’t think of a better option than him. He wouldn’t be the first defector after reaching the 33rd degree to try to do the right thing. Doesn’t mean that’s what he’s doing but it sure looks and sounds that way to me at least.
Well, there is this article... but I don't trust it. Or maybe this was him infiltrating. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2006.htm
I believe there are two levels of “Freemasonry”.
The bohemian grove evil type.
And the larpy local business network type. Of which, I feel some upper elements of this have been infiltrated, subverted and compromised for DS control purposes.
The current Garda Commissioner (head of police in Ireland) is a Freemason, which is strictly forbidden in both our constitution and the Garda conduct codes. But here we are.
So, as I see it, some of them are compromised and placed into key positions by external forces, without the consent of the citizens. The commissioner being a prime example.
Are the larpy ones all bad, no.
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I can say there are pics of him in a bunny suit, but unless I can produce said pics, it's just my word. Watch worrying too much about the hands while giving speeches, I've watched my dad do the same thing for thirty years and he is very much anti Freemason. If you join the toastmasters club to get better at public speaking they show you methods to keep your hands from going wild and distracting from your message. If you see him doing the hidden hand or one of their faggotry handshakes, them be concerned.
Mudra energy flow hand positioning looks similar.