Need advice about generators: I have not seen anything about portable solar generators on here. But I keep seeing tons of ads for the solar ones and am considering one for whole house needs in the event of power loss. You guys are the expert preppers. Any advice? Thanks in advance!~
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No. It's good for laptops tablets and cell phones. Not sure television with your digital TV antenna for your refrigerator nor small air conditioner for your bedroom. Get a real one.
Solar energy is borderline scam
I watch a lot of camping, off grid videos, and I think a couple portable power stations would work for lights, fridge etc. you can get solar panels to go with it, as long you have good sun.
doubt you could wash clothes with the power stations.
you could also get an inverter from Harbor Freight, but you would need some heavy batteries to go with it.
look up Jackery & Goal Zero. they have different models, and a lot of good reviews.
not sure if this would work, but quite a few channels have tutorials.
https://youtu.be/yNBXE3BszEM?
I have a lot of Goal Zero gear, great for camping and when the power goes out temporarily! But I don't see it running all the important stuff in your house.
https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/home-products/g43411922/best-solar-powered-generators/
https://www.outdoorlife.com/gear/best-solar-generators/
There's more: Solar Generator Reviews
I agree, solar is a scam. It barely works to keep the lights on and charge phones. I work where they have a top of the line solar power system, and it keeps running out of power during the day. However I do have a Bluetti Solar Generator system. 2KW system that has inverter, lithium battery pack, multiple ins and outs and includes 3 panels. Can charge on AC or DC, connecting for windmill, etc. I have that system, but bought more panels to go with it.
That said, I also have 3 generators, one is a whole house gas/propane system, one is 6000 Watts and one is 2500 watts. Plus 100 gallons of gas. The reason I have the solar power system is for long term power when the shit hits the fan. What do you do when you run out of fuel? Use it for refrigerator or lights.
Hardcore prepper here. I see all the same ads you do. First thing is none of them are going to power your whole house, at least not for long. You should be prepared to run extension cords to your essential devices - refrigerators/freezers, medical equipment, phones and chargers, well, septic and HVAC if you live in an extreme hot/cold environment. Do you need 220/240v? You don't need to run your fridge 24 hours per day. 2 hours on 4 hours off.
Figure the usage and current draw and back that into a calculator for you consumption. Then that will tell you how many battery banks you need.
Now, you are going to need a pretty sizable array of solar panels. Do you have enough sun?
And then the logistics of using it. In grid down scenario running a home will be a full time job.
No, I don't have one. Looked into it but put it in the extreme remote chance for me as I have a 23kW city gas powered whole house genny. Now, if cyber attacks get to the CNG pipeline, I'm down to backpacking Anker panel.
I have been trying to figure out which solar generator (I know that isn't the correct term, but I forget the name). I can't math it to well. I am only looking to power 1 fridge at a time enough to keep the temp stable while I use up the food in it. But the watts, volts, all that terminology confuses me.
Mine only takes 400 watt hours of solar panels so it takes 5 hours in good sun to recharge then2000 wh solar generator.
I find it easier to use my dual propane/ gas generator. When ther is no load the generator powers way down by itself until a load is placed back on it to accommodate the cycling of my 5000 but AC.
Made my own. Bought used panels 100 Amp hour lithium, MPPT charge controller and 1000watt pure sine wave inverter
Thank you ALL for sharing your astounding knowledge! You guys are great!
A friend here in FL has one and loves it. Runs his fridge.
You need a gas generator to keep them charged efficiently. A hybridized system.
Portable Solar would give you some lights, charge your phone and maybe run your fridge enough to keep food for a short time. The setup that works for a whole house would entail a large group of solar panels, usually but not always mounted on the roof, a large number of lithium batteries 8-10 or more, solar battery chargers, inverter (at least 3000-5000 watts) and other misc components needed to convert the solar electricity and protect the batteries. A fairly large investment but can be done. A gas or multi fuel generator is simpler to setup but depends on the fuel source to run. NG or propane are a good choice. Propane has the plus that you own the tank and fuel in it but in an extended emergency it might be hard to refill the tank. NG aid great, unlimited fuel, as long as the gov doesn’t shut off the supply.
https://dakotalithium.com seems to be a good company, they have complete units and parts.
I believe I align with most of the comments here, solar is not that great. Dollar for dollar vs risk, I am just relying on a whole house diesel and a 7k gasoline.
I think I would recommend propane as the whole house, unless like me, you get a smoking deal on a diesel take out.
If it's apocalypse, I don't think the gen set matters, someone will be along to try and kill you for whatever resource you have.
All that said solar can be fun to tinker with.
Stay away from the 4Patriots brand, its crappy and over-priced. Jackery, Blueyeti, and Anchor are where to look. It will take a substantial amount of money to provide enough power to run your entire house. Get a regular generator...
I've got a 700w battery/200w solar panel that I use for camping. It can power a pretty big cooler type fridge (holds 62beers or similar) basically forever as long as it's not overcast/raining it makes enough power in the day to run all night. And can run other smaller stuff too like rice cooker, etc. Should get me through 10 days darkness well enough. The problem with gas generators is you need a shit ton of gas if it's going to be multiple days. I'm also going to fill all my propane tanks when we get close to November.
The advantage to having a gas generator around is, if there are batteries, they can be charged on overcast days/dark, or do a high amp draw job, then shut it off and enjoy the quiet of battery power.
I recharge my solar generator while running my gas gennie to run my camper AC. Once it cools down inside inshut off the gennie and use rechargeable fans to circulate air and keep nit comfortable. When it worms enough I run the genie again. Usually during the day I get 3 hours in between if we want to be inside. At night it's 6 ton8 hours between and by then I'm up for rhe day
It’s a small battery and an inverter. Not usually big enough to be practical. Better than nothing though.
Buy an all in one inverter, battery, and some used panels if you want actual power to do anything.
I think about this a lot. It gets friggin’ hot and humid here.
You are missing a charge controller
I have investigated this thoroughly, and even had contractors to the house to give me estimates. The big names in this niche all have shortcomings...Tesla, Generac, etc. Unless you have a nearby certified tech, forget it. I had contractors here who didn't even understand what I was asking for.
The big issue is battery storage. You can go the DIY route, and the best supplier is a company called Big Battery. A single Rhino supplies 14kWh. But I appreciate an all-in-one integrated unit, and I believe the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra is the best on the market right now. You can add battery modules for however much reserve you need. You could easily power a large home for a week if necessary.
The problem with solar generators is the lack of amperage, which is especially important if you have a well -- enough to handle startup power. The EcoFlow has a module that allows for two separate units to be hooked together, that supplies 50 amps. Otherwise, a single unit maxes out at 30 amps.
Ultimately, I decided not to do it, for two reasons. First is the cost. In order to have an EcoFlow system big enough to handle our needs (subtracting things like a/c and hot water) for about three days, it would cost in the neighborhood of $25,000 installed. The second reason is if any part or component fails in the system, you're dead in the water waiting for service while the power company has restored service to your house. I'm not willing to gamble my home on a fifty cent part.
They do have an auto module that switches automatically in the event of a power outage, but it can't handle a 50 amp system. That means you'd have to have a contractor install a manual switch...not an issue if you're home when it happens.
Chik, I had a long reply...wouldn't upload, and I'm in the middle of something. So if I forget to come back later, drop me a message.