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Trump announces he will close the federal Department of Education. (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by brain_dead 1 year ago by brain_dead +249 / -0
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– OGpat 29 points 1 year ago +29 / -0

The Feds won’t be brainwashing our children anymore, only the states. Choose your state wisely.

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– brain_dead [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Amen.

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– antiworldorder2 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Well at least the people will only be able too blame their State after which they'll have too blame themselves, the buck stops there. That way it's "choose" your constituents wisely, it comes right back to the people the way it ways meant to be.

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– NoApologyTour 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The closer the decisions get to the source of the education the easier it is for parents to influence the curriculum. Also, this may be a big enough carrot to draw many good people into state and municipal politics.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

At least they got a choice.

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– deleted 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0
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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Will be really nice.

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– Nitrojunkie72 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Contaminated might be the wrong word

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

They can’t brainwash you as effectively if you sleep through class!

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– JoeRobinChancreJr 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

Oh NOES! First abortion back to the states and now education, don't look children! Great plan. Some money back to the states one would presume?

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes. I would assume.

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– M42D 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I daresay it will be with checks and balances that enable rogue Marxist school boards to be dealt with at local level by local people 👍

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– brain_dead [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Amen.

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Then the question becomes what to do with the libraries. Seems like a lot of them are privately owned, but publicly funded?

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– MuckeyDuck 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I know the SCOTUS decision give president extraordinary king like powers, but can he just wipe out an entire department with the stroke of a pin, or would congress need to be involved?

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– FTrooper2 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

It should never have existed in the first place. Most of these agencies are unconstitutional.

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– lithopedion 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

No, that power belongs to Congress. But he has both the house and senate, so there's a really good shot.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Have no idea. Sorry.

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– deleted 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0
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– brain_dead [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Yes, exactly.

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– Fuhqreddit 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Holy fook!!!!

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I want to see this.

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– Fuhqreddit 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

So do my 4 kids!

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You have smart kids.

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– BettyBlue76 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Is this even worse for California?

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– NeverStopBelieving 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I know right, although How much worse could it get here ! I’m hoping there is a shift here after DJT gets sworn in !

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– BettyBlue76 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That would be great. The man behind me at the supermarket had a big red “Trump’s my President” sweatshirt on today. I live in Los Angeles so you never see this. I am worried about the schools though. They could use money with no strings on more of their weird crap.

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– NeverStopBelieving 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

I can’t believe how bad the schools are , I’m in San Diego but my kids are out of school , thank God !

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

If the voting machines are out, you will be better.

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– escapefromearth 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The beauty of letting it stay in the state's control, is that you have the freedom to live in any state you want. Also, homeschool is a thing.

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– BettyBlue76 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Condescending

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– damessinger 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Make our kids smart again. MASA

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

About time.

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– ceegeegee 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I can't remember where I heard it, but maybe a month ago, there was a statistic about bloat in education. Roughly since 2000, there has been a 5% increase in student population, which Is basically flat when you consider the gain in overall population. The increase in the number of teachers is 10%. And that kind of makes sense given many districts enacted smaller classroom sizes. (Does this mean 'better'? That is up for debate, but what I was considering was the explanation for the gains.) But when you look at the increase in administrative staff, the increase is 40%.

There is going to be a lot of howling, but what I would like to see is a chart of student performance year by year from the time the Department of Education was introduced of student performance - meaning the percentage of kids at grade level - and the percentage of non-teaching staff. Because I will bet there is a statistical correlation between the increase in bloat with the decrease in student performance - and this doesn't even take into account grade inflation. I want to see them try to defend a poor record. It should probably go back 10-20 years prior to that as well.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Oh you are going through methodically just like the other anon was talking about. I like your thought.

Let's prove that the increase of staffs actually help or just bloat.

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– SOGWAP 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Dept of indoctrination iis going away.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Amen.

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– MAGAKitty 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

On the 44th Day of Christmas...

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Nice Christmas present.

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– MatildaJ 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

No more school boards???

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– QandAistheWay 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Schools will be structured the same--for now, anyway. He's doing away with the federal DOE, which uses billions to promote DEI and... I'm sure it has other "functions."

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– ArmyLady 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

big mike's school lunches

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– brain_dead [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

There will be school boards. It just mean boarded up with plywoods.

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– escapefromearth 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

School boards won't be protected by feds anymore, and sicking the FBI on parents who complain about schools giving porn to their kids.

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– escapefromearth 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

HOLY SHIT! THANK YOU TRUMP! NOW DO FED AND IRS NEXT PLEASE!!!!

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I think he will.

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– TheMAGAnificent 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

How will this affect special education funding? We can say "oh the states will handle it" but I can't imagine . Mississippi giving a shit about special Ed student.

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– brain_dead [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Good question. Want to run for an office in your state?

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– escapefromearth 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Why would you think that?

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– Citizen_Patriot 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Thank Gawd we decided to move from Michigan to Florida instead of NE Tennessee!

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Florida is good.

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– MathDoesntAddUp 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

So uh, what happens to the student loans that those departments gave out?

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Have no idea.

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– Triggerforge99 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Using AI I've created some talking points to defend this to people whove been conditioned to think the DoE was a good thing.

Creating an argument on this topic involves gathering data from credible sources to support each point. Below is an example of a structured argument with citations from reputable sources that would need to be researched and verified:


Argument: Since the Establishment of the U.S. Department of Education, Educational Standards Have Declined, and Metrics are Potentially Inflated

  1. Decline in Standardized Test Scores: The National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), often called the "Nation's Report Card," shows concerning trends. For example, scores in reading and math for 17-year-olds have remained relatively flat since the 1970s, despite increased spending and resources dedicated to education. NAEP's 2020 report showed that only 37% of 12th graders performed at or above the "proficient" level in reading, a minimal change since the Department of Education's founding (National Center for Education Statistics, 2020).

Source: National Center for Education Statistics. (2020). The Nation's Report Card. Retrieved from NCES.gov

  1. International Comparison of U.S. Educational Standing: U.S. students’ performance on international assessments, such as the Program for International Student Assessment (PISA), shows a decline or stagnation compared to other developed countries. In the 2018 PISA results, American students ranked 13th in reading, 18th in science, and 37th in mathematics. This has placed the U.S. consistently below other OECD nations despite increased education funding (OECD, 2018).

Source: Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development. (2018). PISA 2018 Results. Retrieved from OECD.org

  1. Erosion of Graduation Standards and Requirements: Over recent decades, high school graduation rates have increased significantly, with rates reaching over 85% in 2019 (NCES, 2019). However, this increase has been accompanied by a relaxation in graduation requirements. For example, some states have lowered passing thresholds on standardized tests or removed them altogether, making it easier to graduate without mastery of core subjects (Greene, J., & Winters, M. (2005). Public High School Graduation and College-Readiness Rates: 1991-2002).

Sources:

National Center for Education Statistics. (2019). High School Graduation Rates. Retrieved from NCES.gov

Greene, J., & Winters, M. (2005). Public High School Graduation and College-Readiness Rates: 1991-2002. Manhattan Institute.

  1. Grade Inflation in High Schools and Colleges: Data from studies conducted by the College Board and others indicate significant grade inflation. High school GPAs have steadily risen over the past 20 years, while SAT scores have not increased proportionally, suggesting that grades may not accurately reflect student learning or ability (College Board, 2017).

Source: College Board. (2017). Trends in Grade Inflation. Retrieved from CollegeBoard.org

  1. High College Remediation Rates: Despite high school graduation rates improving, college remediation rates remain substantial. Approximately 40% of college freshmen are required to take remedial courses to catch up to college-level standards, suggesting that many high school graduates are unprepared despite having met graduation requirements (Complete College America, 2016).

Source: Complete College America. (2016). Remediation: Higher Education’s Bridge to Nowhere. Retrieved from CompleteCollege.org

  1. Increased Spending with Limited Improvement: The Department of Education's budget has grown significantly since its inception, with over $70 billion allocated in 2020 alone. Yet, despite this increase in funding, the NAEP scores and international assessments indicate stagnation rather than progress, raising questions about the effectiveness of this spending (Congressional Budget Office, 2020).

Source: Congressional Budget Office. (2020). Federal Spending on Education. Retrieved from CBO.gov

Conclusion: While certain indicators, such as high school graduation rates, have improved since the Department of Education's founding, deeper analysis reveals stagnant test scores, high college remediation rates, and rising grade inflation. Combined, these issues suggest that educational standards may indeed have declined or remained stagnant and that the metrics may sometimes be adjusted or “fudged” to show improvement. More research and policy adjustments are needed to ensure that increased funding translates into genuine improvement in educational outcomes.


Each of these points is based on widely discussed issues in educational research and public policy. The actual sources should be consulted for accuracy and specific data points if you decide to formalize this argument.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Wow. Can I get you to go to https://www.policiesforpeople.com/ and sign up please and post this.

I think it is very good.

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