ACLU Sues Trump Over Birthright Citizenship Executive Order
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The ACLJew has never been about the rights of Americans. They just used that name to fool the sheeple just like they fooled the sheeple with the use of the FEDERAL Reserve.
They have been as deeply involved in the destruction of America as IPAC or the SPLC and others.
how have I not heard "ACLJew" before - thanks for this - NCSWIC!
I’ve heard “Jew York” and “Jew World Order”. But “ ACLJew”? Adding it to my list 👌
...exactly...
The 14th Amendment says: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, AND subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, are citizens of the United States."
There's a great big AND in there. Both conditions must be true in order for you to be a U.S. citizen.
You might have been born on U.S. soil, but you are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States when you are a citizen of another country.
And if neither one of your birth parents is a citizen of the U.S., and are citizens of another country, then you're a citizen of THEIR country and NOT subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
The 14th was passed to address the question of emancipated slaves following the Civil War. Those people were born on U.S. soil but told they were not citizens under the law.
But neither were they "subject to the jurisdiction" of any other nation, either, since they had never even been to any other nation and had no ties to any other nation.
That made them stateless persons. The ONLY nation they were "subject to the jurisdiction of" was the U.S., since that's where they were born and that's where they were living. So it was decided that they would be considered citizens on that account.
Illegal migrants are not stateless persons. They are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the U.S. because they are already citizens of another country. And if a baby born on U.S. soil has parents which are citizens of another country, the baby is a citizen of the parents' country and is not a stateless person.
That is why birthright citizenship does not exist unless it can be shown that the person born in the United States is a stateless person - and illegal migrants are not stateless persons.
...compelling summation, nicely stated and framed...
thank q! I really don't think it's that complicated and I sure hope President Trump can get this officially straightened out.
...it is the objections, obstacles and the obfuscation of the law by the Dark State which will stagnate the process...
An exccellent explanation.
The little words like AND and OR are very important in legislation.
did i read this correctly, those with dual citizenship (congress critters) arent us citizens?
If they otherwise meet the requirements for U.S. citizenship, then yes, they are citizens. Above, I was talking about how to determine whether an infant born on U.S. soil is automatically a U.S. citizen or not.
However, I personally believe that anyone who claims "dual citizenship" with ANY other country should absolutely not hold any elected office, no matter how small.
I was thinking that kambabalama and Obama fit this category.
I wonder is Trump up to something?
...isn't he always?
I think this is what Trump wants. In 1898 the Supreme Court ruled that the 14th amendment allowed for birthright citizenship. The current court should get another look at it. Similar to Roe v. Wade.
zigackly.
Is anyone keeping count of the lawsuits?
https://x.com/JDunlap1974/status/1870766946318201124
...here is their game plan from a month ago...
Abolish the ACLU
Any and all initialisms gets the axe.
And acronyms while we're at it.
Kill em all
What about births to mothers who are there illegally? Really?
It doesn't even matter whether the baby's parent(s) are here illegally or not.
What matters is whether the baby born in the U.S. has at least one parent who is a U.S. Citizen.
If not, then the baby is "subject to the jurisdiction" of the parents' country and is a citizen of that country, just like they are.
Please see my comment above for a little more discussion on this.
Maybe Trump is putting in some EO's here to take attention away from others? Or just making sure all ammo is spent from the deep-state's supporters (wittingly supporting or not) Like the ACLU here - I'm sure there's some DS ties but fully deep-state controlled I doubt - more like just a liberal outfit that aligns with their goals. So Trump gets some of them to focus on something like birthright citizenship as if its a big deal... sure it can sound like a big deal, but compared to closing the border? compared to releasing the j6 prisoners? nope. Just sharing thoughts about it all. The ACLU is just trash
Blah blah blah... and many other predictable lawsuits from various factions forthcoming. Bring it, faggots.
Tried to read the article but gave up after a minute. Garbage.
...just because one doesn't see eye to eye with someone else doesn't invalidate the point being made...
"The most boring conversations are the ones where everyone agrees,"
Michel de Montaigne.