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And so it starts: **The dissolution of NATO** | Macron’s ‘Emergency’ Ukraine Summit in Paris *Fails* to Produce Unified European Strategy, as Poles and Germans Balk at Deploying Troops ... [sad trombone noises] NCSWIC (archive.ph)
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– Retaining_H2O 7 points 1 year ago +7 / -0

I'm sure Russia would LOVE to see German troops in Ukraine. German troops on Russia's border wouldn't cause any concern at all, right? 🤪

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– yoshikawa 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Which troops? We can hardly supply our unicorn armored riders, the high-heeled rangers or the rainbow intelligence.

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– LongTimeListener 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The Germans do not have even a single combat ready division in their entire army.

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– Sadness [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

LOL - can you imagine the symbolism? The defeated army had to be pushed to until the Soviet flag was raised in Berlin. Some soldiers believe that this will have to occur again. That means they are mentally prepared to do it, BTW.

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

this is exactly what these jokers are afraid of. Putin will invade Western Europe .....

He won't.

But .... it now becomes evident how pathetically weak these people and their entrenched positions are. They will not be able to keep the internal problems in check, as there is not a single unifying idea.

"for this reason is your country. "

Think about it. When Vance pointed out, how far the EU countries and other OVSE countries had strayed from the principle: freedom....... what else are there there for? To rob?

See, this is the difference between Europe and America in terms of historical roots.

Allow me to give you one example:

Stedinger Crusade.

I am sure you never heard of it. You know about crusades in the Middle East and maybe the one in the South of France: Albigensian crusade against the Cathars. You can check the wiki page, but as usual, wiki gives you the "legal" perspectives of the robbers.

Just remember: The pope had just given his Unam Sanctam directive: without the church there is no salvation.

Let's move to lower-saxony, especially the Frysian lands along the North sea. These lands have a common denominator: Water does things. It takes and it gives. So people set out to settle (home stead) new lands that were falling dry. If you would consult a map and see name places like Winsum, Wierum, Stedum, it is not Latin, but the UM means a mud-hill. Why? To have a dry place to live.

The people who settled these areas where free folk. And although defeated by the Francs, they had certain rights recognized: the Church would not interfere in their religion, and leave them be. Except for duels, no interaction was necessary or desired. These rights were laid down in a document called Frysian Law, and applied to the Frysian lands from currently: Den Helder to Hamburg.

However, the papal bull provided the pretext to tax these people. Of course they went up in arms. Nobles and knights from all over the place, were gathered to suppress and kill these people.

They started out as free but had to give way to those who where half-free, or even slaves. and the reason is: robbery and pillage.

This position has not changed one bit. It only got worse. Any resource, including human resource, is under their command to enrich themselves. And this whole system is well on its way to blow.

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– Sadness [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I love the Frisian bit. I am properly half Frisian, and as a kid I was fascinated by the little Islands in Ijssel-meer and marvelling at the Expressionist post-war decorated dyke. A huge carving of Real Men hand-laying the dyke in relief. I was fascinated by the story of how when the polder dried out, medieval leather shoes were found and that had me mulling over it, for many a pleasant thunk. Just remember the location: The big dyke joins Friesland to North Holland (Den Helder). All in Frisian domain.

The spotty Islands were like humble fortresses, with wooden farm-houses, and a landing place. I would love to know if there are iron-age relics and to find out the ages of the little piers. But, I know it is hard for Frisian researchers to get grants for such research. Nevertheless, one can remark that Marauders would have had to cross either silty mud, or water.

The religion aspect is interesting too. My mother formally taught me how to get rid of bad spirits in a new home, that was previously lived in by others, and it wasn't Christian - it was magic. But it was in hushed tones, because the Frisian side came from brethren stock, who properly instilled the lord's prayer at night and prayed before meals. This protestant Frisian sub-set was comparable to Methodists, and Christian to the letter. TMI: Plus there is the story of hiding gold from the Nazis. To this day, it has not been found, because the old man lost his mind during the war. To this Frisian, the NAzis just added insult to injury.

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– MisprisionIsEvil 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

This reads like poetry. 👍

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You might like this overview: https://caans-acaen.ca/Journal/issues_online/Issue_XIX_i_1998/VANDERMUELEN.pdf

And: give Oera linda Bok a spin. https://archive.org/details/oeralindabookfr00ottegoog

To this Frisian, the Nazis just added insult to injury.

Yes ... although certain local items considered folkish were enhanced. By doing so, it is now considered wrong. So, it is not so much what the Nazi's did or did not, but the response and the purges afterwards.

Interestingly, it is the court in Leeuwarden who resisted the extreme implementation of martial law in the Netherlands. Back then, becoming a judge in another "gewest" was a bit difficult, as the sensibilities were generally local. The onslaught by labor migration and mass immigration is the worst for maintaining those particulars inherent to local culture.

Fortunately, more and more people start to retrace their origins, and become interested in maintaining these. Christianity was the deathnail, as it totally upended the culture, and moral consideration.

And what court do you think Billy Gates is now standing in front of? Leeuwarden or better said: Ljouwert.

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– Sadness [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the link. I realized something my father (born in Joure) told me about Frisians being able to understand Celts from Scotland. Also while reading the article, there was a reference to the migration of Angles and Saxons (How my father put it - not Anglosaxons). Then I made a quick dot-connect: there are recent discoveries in 'Viking' York (Time Team, Digging for Britain, etc.), that should properly be termed 'Frisian York'.

Oh, and the description of Frisian farms, growing out of the marshes. It only described my uncle's moated dairy farm, with 35 internally stabled (in fresh straw every day) cows, facing the outside wall, with an internal door to the 'house'. That had me thinking for hours.

The paper didn't talk about the gold and iron-smithing that Frisians are adept at. That's for another conversation.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Nice!

True, Angels and Saxons are two different peoples, though belonging to the same diaspora, they were at odds with each other. I guess fishermen and farmers/cattle herders.

In terms of coin, many found their way all over, even into Rus territory, as they were highly priced.

What I notice when I look at the map: the line: Stavoren, Leeuwarden, Groningen, Delfzijl. There is hardly seigneurity, or feudal lords. Even till recent times. Freedom remains part of the Frysian name: Frya's land. Land of the free.

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– Sadness [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Nice, back.

and Texel? I have cousins over there...

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– Dogsoldier2 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Now do the UN.

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– Sadness [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

See also:

Europe's army insufficient for sending troops to Ukraine — Polish intelligence service

https://archive.ph/GUn9E

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– M42D 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

NATO and the EU need collapsing pronto. Black Hole Billions for nothing but corruption and kid rape and murder.

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– Sadness [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

We have not even really scratched the kiddie-porn issue over there...

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– M42D 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

The EU and its 'Royalty' is the world's number one procurer of children for 'entertainment'. Let's not forget that child 'porn' was legal in Denmark until the 80s. And that's not even a blemish on the surface, let alone a scratch.

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yes. Main entry point: Rotterdam. And they are protected with people high up.

Check out House of Orange -> Frits Solomonson -> Oscar Hammerstein. (It all came to light during the IRT - affair , that morphed into the rolodex-affair: money laundering, drug trafficking, human trafficking, etc, etc)

u/#q31

Also see: q-1745

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– MisprisionIsEvil 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

They seem to want to protect foreign heads of state. I need to know more, but, on the surface I can't support that. Foreign heads of state need to be exposed more than anyone.

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– Lupinate 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

That will likely put pause on bloody Kier's campaign of insanity as well. I don't feel that he will have the balls to go it alone. Or he might and kill his career completely with everyone. Part of me hopes for a no confidence vote in him soon.

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– HotMustard84 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

They want to scrap NATO and replace it with an EU army anyway right?

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