It's OUR money, so of course we should get back whatever they've freed up at this point in time. This would be a form of "reparations" for ALL Americans in regards to the tax debt slavery that we have been subjected to.
It will also offset the illegal spending. All the money the illegals have been spending was helping the economy, but it’s our money, not theirs. Now that money has dried up for illegals we can offset with a return of tax money to Citizen taxpayers. This way there isn’t a shock to the economy. But please don’t give anyone back more than they actually paid.
Yes, exactly. What people don't realize is that all the lowlifes who are on benefits (food stamps and Medicaid) and do little to no work get everything back at tax time! Technically they paid taxes, but in reality, they did not because all their money was given back to them.
It's also the most egalitarian gesture. Blacks... mexicans... asians... whites.... all who have paid taxes would be entitled to getting their money back.
The economic boon to the country comes from the money in the hands of the PEOPLE, not the government. Much better that WE control where our money goes and what WE invest in, and not some bureaucrat in D.C.
The people can choose winners and losers, and they have to deal with the choices of their investments. When the government fails at investing and wastes their money, they take it out on us citizens by not only stealing the money with no accountability, but also coming back and raising taxes AGAIN to cover their bad investments. So we are on the hook DOUBLE what would normally be an individual's own burden of responsibility.
If all Americans become millionaires overnight, who will become the ditch diggers and hamburger flippers? No one will want to work so we will have to import Mexicans and Indians to do the menial tasks that wealthy hillbillys refuse to do.
It's a start, though. I would imagine down the road, our overall tax burden will be lighter. And if this is successful in returning money to the pockets of Americans WITHOUT the need to print more money in the form of a COVID-style handout, we could see even more given out as DOGE uncovers more waste and fraud.
You should have to sign a document stating that by accepting any funds you are agreeing that these savings are helping to Make America Great Again and you endorse these changes.
Yes, yes, yes, thank you! I got blasted (downvoted) for saying something similar on another post. These are the people who scamming the system. They do a little work but not so much that they can't get full food stamps and Medicaid and then get all their taxes back at the end of the year, meanwhile, those that are working and trying to get ahead get screwed.
I would settle for not paying taxes again, ever. Including property, sales, fees, all that shit they put on our phone bill, battery exchange, rental (environmental fee) tax, etc.
I personally don't mind some taxation for public services and infrastructure SO LONG as it's used responsibly, and projects are completed on-time and within (or under) budget. If we'd actually get efficient transportation projects completed, if our roads would actually be fixed, and if our government services were run effectively and efficiently, I wouldn't mind paying a little to help out my fellow citizens.
The issue comes when you have cronyists giving each other jobs and skimming off the public dime. Nothing gets done on time. Things are horribly mismanaged. Promises are broken with no accountability. Such as what's going on in WA state at the moment regarding Sound Transit:
My only argument against this is that our country's security must be funded. Whether that is through a fixed low-interest and nationwide consumption tax (let foreigners who visit contribute, too) or something else, I don't know. What I do know is that a single dollar shouldn't be taxed 500 times.
But I have no problem funding our armed services. These alphabet agencies need to die, however. And the government needs to learn to survive on less. It's too bloated, corrupt, and out of control.
Part of me is jumping for joy while the other part is saying " that's all? WTF, I've paid into the system for decades and all I get is a measly five grand?" I know there isn't enough money to spread it around so every citizen gets a pension, but my kid has been in the workforce for a few months and he gets the five grand also because he's paid into the system? Ingratitude, this is not, just trying to understand how this will work.
This would do wonders for the American Economy and help pay down some usurious debts. As long as you've paid taxes at least once in the last few years, you should qualify. Anyone got cheating should be made to pay it back.
" Watch out for the Nesara grifters to jump on this as "proof""
...some sauce for the lost...
NESARA, or the National Economic Security and Recovery Act, is a set of economic reform proposals that were never introduced to Congress. The proposals were suggested by Harvey Francis Barnard in the 1990s.
What were the proposals?
Replace the income tax with a national sales tax
Abolish compound interest on secured loans
Return to a bimetallic currency
What became of the proposals?
Barnard's proposals became the subject of a conspiracy theory that claims the act was passed and then suppressed by the George W. Bush administration and the Supreme Court. Internet personality Shaini Candace Goodwin, also known as "Dove of Oneness", was the original promoter of the conspiracy theory. Goodwin claimed that the act was passed as the National Economic Security and Reformation Act.
How about finishing ferreting out all the waste and corruption first, then paying off the national debt, and following up with an ironclad balanced budget amendment, before talking about pissing the 'surplus' away ...
No. Just no. I've watched politicians do this for decades to buy votes. I don't think that is what DJT is doing here, but the optics... Instead, use the funds and tariffs to ELIMINATE THE INCOME TAX. FOREVER. That is something we will always remember.
I'd like some of the money back that I've allowed the government to waste over the years. It's a small gesture at this point as suggested. The least the government can do is give it back to me. I'm almost 40 now. Some who are much older than me have paid taxes all their life but are at a point where they will not live to see the next chapter of this book being written.
Yes, if this was done it should certainly fulfill at least two requirements (along with many more):
No further money printing which will enable the creation of these checks. It has to come straight from existing expenditures which will be shifted back to the people instead of favoritism within government.
It must be a tax-free contribution to the people from the government. It cannot be like Social Security where you pay all your life, receive your stipend and then get taxed again on it.
The money would be great, as a D.O.G.E. dividend, but I say retract all the illegally gotten gains that anyone got, make them return them, and distribute them back to the American people that paid them. Then jail the criminals involved with our government and in our government. Some of them may have committed treason so hanging it is for them.
Not a fan but Trump knows it will solidify his support. The low info, not that bright, no political interest types. They get a big check, with a letter from Trump….lifelong fans.
The devil side of me wants everyone who wants the money have to sign something saying they SUPPORT the decision of President Donald J Trump to return the money recovered from the waste, fraud and abuse of our tax dollars discovered by Elon Musk's DOGE team.
How they would howl while they signed because they will not take a stand against free money!
It's OUR money, so of course we should get back whatever they've freed up at this point in time. This would be a form of "reparations" for ALL Americans in regards to the tax debt slavery that we have been subjected to.
It will also offset the illegal spending. All the money the illegals have been spending was helping the economy, but it’s our money, not theirs. Now that money has dried up for illegals we can offset with a return of tax money to Citizen taxpayers. This way there isn’t a shock to the economy. But please don’t give anyone back more than they actually paid.
Yes, exactly. What people don't realize is that all the lowlifes who are on benefits (food stamps and Medicaid) and do little to no work get everything back at tax time! Technically they paid taxes, but in reality, they did not because all their money was given back to them.
"This would be a form of "reparations" "
...compelling observation...
It's also the most egalitarian gesture. Blacks... mexicans... asians... whites.... all who have paid taxes would be entitled to getting their money back.
"It's also the most egalitarian gesture."
...and fair too...
...wags tail naughtily...
Facts. Good Doggy!
Illegals who have paid taxes should get NOTHING. That's the only thing I would add to this.
Seams a little light.
10k would be better.
"Seams a little light."
...zeros are my friends...
...as in, $1,000,000.00...
I like it.
"I like it."
...doggy winks...
The economic boon to the country comes from the money in the hands of the PEOPLE, not the government. Much better that WE control where our money goes and what WE invest in, and not some bureaucrat in D.C.
The people can choose winners and losers, and they have to deal with the choices of their investments. When the government fails at investing and wastes their money, they take it out on us citizens by not only stealing the money with no accountability, but also coming back and raising taxes AGAIN to cover their bad investments. So we are on the hook DOUBLE what would normally be an individual's own burden of responsibility.
If all Americans become millionaires overnight, who will become the ditch diggers and hamburger flippers? No one will want to work so we will have to import Mexicans and Indians to do the menial tasks that wealthy hillbillys refuse to do.
It's a start, though. I would imagine down the road, our overall tax burden will be lighter. And if this is successful in returning money to the pockets of Americans WITHOUT the need to print more money in the form of a COVID-style handout, we could see even more given out as DOGE uncovers more waste and fraud.
You should have to sign a document stating that by accepting any funds you are agreeing that these savings are helping to Make America Great Again and you endorse these changes.
Sign me up! MAGA, BITCHES!!!
I love it. Let the reddit crowd suck it. Either agree that you endorse what's being done, or your portion will go elsewhere.
As long as it’s to actual taxpayers who are US Citizens, I’m all for it.
NONE to the earned income tax credit please.
" NONE to the earned income tax credit please"
...please indeed...
Yes, yes, yes, thank you! I got blasted (downvoted) for saying something similar on another post. These are the people who scamming the system. They do a little work but not so much that they can't get full food stamps and Medicaid and then get all their taxes back at the end of the year, meanwhile, those that are working and trying to get ahead get screwed.
I would settle for not paying taxes again, ever. Including property, sales, fees, all that shit they put on our phone bill, battery exchange, rental (environmental fee) tax, etc.
I personally don't mind some taxation for public services and infrastructure SO LONG as it's used responsibly, and projects are completed on-time and within (or under) budget. If we'd actually get efficient transportation projects completed, if our roads would actually be fixed, and if our government services were run effectively and efficiently, I wouldn't mind paying a little to help out my fellow citizens.
The issue comes when you have cronyists giving each other jobs and skimming off the public dime. Nothing gets done on time. Things are horribly mismanaged. Promises are broken with no accountability. Such as what's going on in WA state at the moment regarding Sound Transit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdllXb0Nn6A
I do mind mind taxation in any form. We should be so sensitive to any tax we never allow it again.
My only argument against this is that our country's security must be funded. Whether that is through a fixed low-interest and nationwide consumption tax (let foreigners who visit contribute, too) or something else, I don't know. What I do know is that a single dollar shouldn't be taxed 500 times.
But I have no problem funding our armed services. These alphabet agencies need to die, however. And the government needs to learn to survive on less. It's too bloated, corrupt, and out of control.
..I would settle for not paying taxes again, ever. "
...that sentiment places you in some very good company...
...howl on Patriot...
That is a state and local issue.
Part of me is jumping for joy while the other part is saying " that's all? WTF, I've paid into the system for decades and all I get is a measly five grand?" I know there isn't enough money to spread it around so every citizen gets a pension, but my kid has been in the workforce for a few months and he gets the five grand also because he's paid into the system? Ingratitude, this is not, just trying to understand how this will work.
" just trying to understand how this will work."
...with much trepidation and loathing...
Therenis more money that will get "saved". More cuts, more discovery of money going into the wrong hands, more savings of stolen funds.
This would do wonders for the American Economy and help pay down some usurious debts. As long as you've paid taxes at least once in the last few years, you should qualify. Anyone got cheating should be made to pay it back.
" This would do wonders for the American Economy "
...not to mention, this would be a yuge red "suppository" for all those still on the fence...
...it is hard to hate a couple of dudes that drop 5 large in your cup...
Filled Cup envy coming down from the North.
"Filled Cup envy coming down from the North."
...howls...
...don't fret, the Great Orange Sultan has beaucoup mega plans for the Brothers and Sisters living in the GWN...
Thankfully we have some new watchDOGEs on the case to catch any fraud!
CHECKMATE!!!
Can we skip the tax payers that don't actually pay taxes? Like the ones that pay in $1000 all year but get a $10,000 return. Js
Watch out for the Nesara grifters to jump on this as "proof"
" Watch out for the Nesara grifters to jump on this as "proof""
...some sauce for the lost...
NESARA, or the National Economic Security and Recovery Act, is a set of economic reform proposals that were never introduced to Congress. The proposals were suggested by Harvey Francis Barnard in the 1990s.
What were the proposals?
Replace the income tax with a national sales tax
Abolish compound interest on secured loans
Return to a bimetallic currency
What became of the proposals?
Barnard's proposals became the subject of a conspiracy theory that claims the act was passed and then suppressed by the George W. Bush administration and the Supreme Court. Internet personality Shaini Candace Goodwin, also known as "Dove of Oneness", was the original promoter of the conspiracy theory. Goodwin claimed that the act was passed as the National Economic Security and Reformation Act.
copied/pasted
Search Labs | AI Overview
Those don't sound like bad ideas to me. Maybe it can happen in principle anyway.
How about finishing ferreting out all the waste and corruption first, then paying off the national debt, and following up with an ironclad balanced budget amendment, before talking about pissing the 'surplus' away ...
" pissing the 'surplus' away ..."
...it is merely a good time rock and roll touchy feely p.r. move to calm the natives...
No. Just no. I've watched politicians do this for decades to buy votes. I don't think that is what DJT is doing here, but the optics... Instead, use the funds and tariffs to ELIMINATE THE INCOME TAX. FOREVER. That is something we will always remember.
I'd like some of the money back that I've allowed the government to waste over the years. It's a small gesture at this point as suggested. The least the government can do is give it back to me. I'm almost 40 now. Some who are much older than me have paid taxes all their life but are at a point where they will not live to see the next chapter of this book being written.
I'd take the check, but the IRS might get its cut and that would piss me off.
"I'd take the check, but the IRS might get its cut and that would piss me off."
...deal breaker...
Yes, if this was done it should certainly fulfill at least two requirements (along with many more):
No further money printing which will enable the creation of these checks. It has to come straight from existing expenditures which will be shifted back to the people instead of favoritism within government.
It must be a tax-free contribution to the people from the government. It cannot be like Social Security where you pay all your life, receive your stipend and then get taxed again on it.
Amen
Its called a rebate. That would make a fine first installment.
I expect every person whining about the cuts to voluntarily return their checks too.
5k a year after a lump sum payment based on years as a taxed us worker maybe. And the destruction of the irs
"5k a year after a lump sum payment based on years as a taxed us worker maybe. And the destruction of the irs"
https://youtu.be/00w1HGqyxTM?si=-myJR0JpmNo1mbei
...welcome aboard Patriot...
The non tax payers will scream
"The non tax payers will scream"
...let them eat cake...
...and wash it down with soda guickly before they stop snap card soda purchases which they then could scream about...
https://archive.ph/wip/2Pl9s
...will it b taxed
"will it b taxed"
...not if it is done correctly...
Use it to pay down the national debt please.
The money would be great, as a D.O.G.E. dividend, but I say retract all the illegally gotten gains that anyone got, make them return them, and distribute them back to the American people that paid them. Then jail the criminals involved with our government and in our government. Some of them may have committed treason so hanging it is for them.
Those are rookie numbers...
Not a fan but Trump knows it will solidify his support. The low info, not that bright, no political interest types. They get a big check, with a letter from Trump….lifelong fans.
"They get a big check, with a letter from Trump"
...money can't buy you love...
...Trump, " perhaps I can rent some then"...
...howls...
The devil side of me wants everyone who wants the money have to sign something saying they SUPPORT the decision of President Donald J Trump to return the money recovered from the waste, fraud and abuse of our tax dollars discovered by Elon Musk's DOGE team.
How they would howl while they signed because they will not take a stand against free money!
"How they would howl while they signed "
...doggy grins...
Include people on social security in that.