Javier Milei just SHOCKED the world releasing documents on Hitler's escape to Argentina in 1945
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Just bunk. I have read the memoirs of those who were with Hitler in the bunker, before, during, and after his suicide, and attempt to burn the body. He died on 30 April 1945. The day previous, 29 April, he executed a last will and testament that named Karl Doenitz as head of state (actually naming Goebbels, but Goebbels committed suicide the day after Hitler, leaving Doenitz to assume the office). And earlier on 22 April, Albert Speer visited the bunker with a plea for Hitler to escape by air (the last opportunity), but Hitler refused. He had never departed several months previous.
"Everybody knows" is just a fig leaf for "nobody knows." I cannot fathom why anyone should actually be HOPING that Hitler survived and lived out his life. What emotional need is satisfied by such a perverse victory of evil over good?
Not debating the validity of the rumors/claims made in video, just answering a question you asked. It's not really an "emotional need" that needs satisfying but a quest to find the actual truths that have been hidden from the world. Revealing information that has been hidden would cause more people to question the official narratives they've been fed their whole lives and those that fed them those narratives. That is why we are all here on a "Q" research board, IMO.
No reason to think the truth about Hitler has been hidden. That is a contrived rationale. What you may not like is the fact that the Soviets captured Berlin and were not forthcoming about anything. The West had plenty of testimony, and documentary evidence he was still calling the shots up to the day before his death. You just don't like the truth. It is inconvenient.
You are building a house of cards. IF Hitler's fate could be proven otherwise, THEN other people might believe otherwise. So, the desired end engenders the desired precondition. We only find truth as we stumble across it, in material form. The fact remains that "you" want Hitler to have attained a personal victory, escaping scot free from his crimes against humanity. All for the sake of a noble good? You are insensitive to the way in which your ulterior motives are warping your sense of right and wrong. You are virtue signaling in advance of anything to signal.
What I don't like is peop!e, such as you, putting words in my mouth. I did not say I believed any of what is claimed in this video. I honestly don't know. What I was trying to convey is that people have good reason to be skeptical about historical narratives because they know they've been lied to by their government about any number of other historical narratives. This sure seems to have touched a nerve with you. Why the need to accuse me of things I did not write? Straw man much? None of what you accuse me of is true and none of that could be deduced from what I said either. To that end, fuck off, douche bsg.
Kindly indicate which words. I don't believe I attributed any quotations to you. If you have no vested interest in the video, then I apologize for construing your defense of it as approval. I concede your logic: proof of one hidden truth will engender skepticism. That is a logical outcome. But you are advancing it as a reason for this delving. The end justifying the means is not far away.
People have reason to be skeptical only if they have a REASON to be skeptical. It is not rational to ASSUME that all accounts are lies. When you start from an assumption and then use it to fill out a mythology, you are wandering off the map.
I am sorry if I took your words too ardently on the side of the Hitler Hunters. But you undermine your own case by ending with a curse and an insult.
Which means you don't know either
You missed the point where I read the memoirs of the witnesses. And the testimony of Albert Speer, who attempted a week beforehand to have Hitler escape by airplane (he refused). And the directive by Hitler designating Admiral Doenitz as head of state the day before his suicide. That is what we know, and it all confirms Hitler was at the bunker and died there. There is no uncertainty left. Just a lot of wishful thinking that a mass murderer escaped justice for his crimes against humanity, in order for the Conspiracy Theorists to score one for history. But knock yourself out. It is a dead end.
You think reading a book equates to knowing what happened? Do you think fake news only applies to the news?
u/#correct
You prove the books are fake and you have an audience. Right now, the books are witness testimony. But we both know you can never prove the books are fake, so your only argument is denial of the testimony. In your case, evidently, you think that NOT reading the books equates to knowing what happened. That's a laugh. Do you think the fake news only applies to the news? It also applies to the claim of fake news. You're not immune.
There are many eyewitnesses in Argentina that have said they knew Hitler after he escaped. Lived there and died in his early 70's.
Josh Gates and Abel Basti went to his alleged home that townsfolk from back then said he lived at, it's a bit of a remote location. Josh and Abel found a Nazi coin in the front yard.
The CIA even had a picture of an older Hitler in Argentina.
Stalin's intelligence showed Hitler also fled to Argentina.
How many so called conspiracy theories have now been proven true? I have no doubt that our government knew Hitler fled and turned a blind eye in exchange for all the nazi technology they acquired and the nazi scientists that were given a pass on war crimes just so they could work for us.
Yes, or that.
Basically set up the deep state. The 1947 law that created the cia and the secret government.
Something tells me we have a parallel breakaway civilization. That’s one conspiracy I didn’t believe. I believe USAID and other programs were siphoning off money to these people. The out right rage at Elon is beyond normal. He basically gutted the financing for the deep state right before they go for their final assault on humanity.
What war crimes? The war crimes claimed by the same people that project their sins on to chickens, subsequently beat those chickens to death, then claim they're absolved of their sins?
For starters regarding the scientists... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1323276/
This is rich. From a community who thinks Joe Biden is an actor, comes the belief that, contrary to the witnesses in the bunker, his delegation to Doenitz, and his refusal of escape to Speer, Hitler somehow hopped in a time machine, escaped, threw of the effects of his drug dependence, and schlepped off to Argentina. How do these "eyewitnesses" know it was Hitler, and how could that possibly be verified? A Nazi coin could come only from Hitler, when there were other Nazis around? CIA photographs? Did they take his fingerprints, or was it an alleged identification? Stalin's intelligence? Yet they retained his remains? (The woman's skull was undoubtedly that of Eva Braun, who was buried with him.)
Plenty of conspiracy theories are total bunk from beginning to end: Moon Hoax, chemtrails, Flat Earth, Nazi UFOs, 9/11 demolition. Something being a conspiracy theory means nothing about its truth value. The Soviets captured Berlin, so the U.S. had no options about Hitler's fate. We do have at least half a dozen witness memoirs, however, and proof of official communications up to the end. And if you are talking about the Peenemunde team under Von Braun, there were no war crimes attributable to them. Just one (1) was found later to have a dubious history and was sent back to Germany. The Army had them busy designing and developing Redstone and Jupiter missiles. Then the Apollo program came along and they designed and developed the Saturn V. Without them, we would not have been first to the Moon, a feat of civilization.
It's interesting how you threw in the time machine aspect. This is a method the CIA would use in arguments to spin conspiracy theories as even crazier, even though no one brought it up.
You do it again by tying it together with Chemtrails and flat earth conspiracies.
But, to the subject at hand. The biggest issue with believing Hitler died in his bunker is that the Soviets discovered his remains and secretly buried them. But then have Stalin not believe his own forces alleged discovery based on other intelligence.
I'm just pointing out the absurdity of a claim of Hitler's wherabouts and whenabouts that is disproven by the historical record. Only a time machine (an impossibility) could make it work. And this is the problem of a good many "conspiracy theories." "Chemtrails", Moon Hoax, and Flat Earth are all conspiracy theories. So, if you are going to wrap "conspiracy theories" to your bosom, you get to nuzzle with all of them, including the absurd ones. There is no issue about Hitler when you have multiple eyewitness testimony to the sequence of events. Maybe Stalin was of a similar view, preferring the weight of hard evidence to the indeterminacy of "intelligence." He was not a believing sort of guy.
Hitler wanted only what was best for Germany and her people. What's wrong with a nationalist? Why are you still believing what you were told to think?
I wasn't told to think anything, and Hitler wanted "what was best for Germany" at the price of conquest, war, destruction, and genocide. That's not "nationalism," that's wrath and intolerance. Boy, a Hitler lover. I never thought I would meet one. You were certainly told to think something and it was poison.
You still believe what was brainwashed in to you.
No brainwashing. Just a lot of reading of multiple sources. See, here's the problem: If you don't like a point of view, or can't answer it, you claim "you're brainwashed!," as though that says anything. Actually, since you don't have any testimony or evidence, you are the one who is brainwashed. And willingly so. He was in charge up to 29 April 1945. Just ask Karl Doenitz, who had to sign the surrender document.